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Re: what went where in whose cars

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Dave Nelson wrote to [sorry, can't recall author's name]
I'll gladly send you the spreadsheet
format I use for transcribing such information if you are inclined to take
up your own offer. 8-)
Dave, I have one book that would be of interest to the list. Could I get a
copy of the spread sheet format?

Rob Kirkham


ADMIN: Toronto NMRA Convention and SARS

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

OK, guys. If you have any public awareness messages you wish to post, send
them to me. I will make the judgement if they will benefit the STMFC
membership.

If any members of the Toronto Convention are members of the STMFC, I would
be glad to receive and will post appropriate updates regarding the
convention's status....including concerns about SARS. Messages regarding the
schedule of the RPM meet commonly held during NMRA National Conventions are
appropriate for the STMFC.

Other discussion regarding SARS and the Toronto NMRA Convention are not
subjects for discussion on the STMFC.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: Lettering for Sylvan kits of CN/GTW steel rebuilds

Stafford Swain <sswain@...>
 

Hi:

Our CNR freight car decal offerings are still pretty limited and, although the vision is much larger, we don't have a box car set of any kind as yet.

If you wish to create something different than what is available from Sylvan, I'd recommend buying some CDS dry tranfer material including their CNR dimensional data set in white. This material can be laid down on decal paper leaving out the "bad digits" and adding the "good ones" to get to "correct" capacities, dimensions, and reweighs.

Stafford,
I will ask a friend in the Chicago area if he'd pickup the decals at Des Plaines.
Is there a number for the box car set?
Clark Propst

Stafford Swain wrote:
<snip>
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26 Kenneth Street
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
R3T 0K8
(204) 477-9246
sswain@mts.net


Seley drawing

Eric Hansmann <ehansmann@...>
 

Schuyler G Larrabee wrote:

I couldn't find the Seley photo(s) with either of the links.

===========================================


I went to the STMFC Files section and clicked on the file Southern Seley Hopper #1.jpg. I originally thought it was a blank file, until I scrolled around. This file is HUGE! Big drawing file means lots of white space. I downloaded the image to my home computer so I could open it in Photoshop for easier viewing. You may want to do the same with an image viewer on your computer.

BTW, there is also a folder marked Southern Seley Hoppers. It contains the same image.

Thanks to Larry Wise (right??) for posting the Seley hopper drawing!

Eric Hansmann
Morgantown, W. Va.


Re: Sylvna kits of CN/GTW steel rebuilds

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

Stafford,
I will ask a friend in the Chicago area if he'd pickup the decals at Des Plaines.
Is there a number for the box car set?
Clark Propst

Stafford Swain wrote:

Hi:

Our CN Lines SIG product stocking dealers in the U.S. are Flying
Yankee (John Hutchins) of Littleton MA, AA Hobbies in Rhode Island,
and Des Plaines Hobbies. In Canada, the dealer list is much longer.

While we are on the topic of our CN Lines SIG products, I should
mention that we also currently have decal sets for CNR tank cars (two
versions) and the CNR's S.U.F reefers.

Our Scalecoat 1 paint line consists of 18 colors which may be
compared with Scalecoat's own current line of less than 70 shades to
cover all possibilities.

In the paint line we have two freight car mineral reds, the steam-era
CNR Red No. 11 and the somewhat darker Red No. 12 which became the
standard after 1968. We also have several useful grays including
Grey No. 11 for those overhead ice bunker reefers, CNR Grey No. 12
for later covered hoppers and two CPR-origin grays. Other colors of
potentially wider interest include Yellow No. 11, a nice "Imitation
Gold" and a model friendly "Warm Black". It is a great "near-black"
that is excellent for the black prototypes which lose their detail
when a straight "pure" black is used.

The overall point is we have custom-made Scalecoat 1 colors that may
have uses well beyond our narrow CNR and CPR needs.

End of infomercial . .

Thanks, Stafford,
Who do I get a set from?
Clark

Stafford Swain wrote:

Hi:

The CN Lines SIG sells a nice 1945-1954 era tilted Green Maple Leaf
monogram decal (Bob Smith of Railcad's artwork) through our many
Canadian dealers and certain U.S. dealers. We list this set as
follows.

300-8dm 1945 to 1954 CNR green maple leaf monograms - set of four.
> Canadian suggested retail price $3.50, U.S. suggested retail price US$2.50.
,snip>
--
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26 Kenneth Street
Winnipeg, MB, Canada
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(204) 477-9246
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Re: [Fwd: [CNLines-CNet] Re: NMRA Toronto Convention in Trouble?]

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

On 5/31/03 10:11 AM, "Pierre Oliver" <pierre.oliver@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Gentlemen,
I forward this to this list for a number of reasons.
The NMRA convention in Toronto is under threat of being canceled or
moved as a result of concerns over the SARS outbreak in that city. To
date a number of major manufacturers have backed out of attending the
convention citing health concerns.
The message I've forwarded is the best arguement I've read to date
indicating that the fears of contracting SARS from something like a
convention are unfounded.
My brother and his wife both work in the hospital where the disease was
first identified and isolated. If there was any danger of my contracting
the disease from casual contact I'm sure that they would have both told
me not to visit this weekend past.
For those of us up here in The Great White North the canceling of this
convention would be a great shame. On behalf of all the people in
Toronto and area who worked so hard to get and organize this convention,
I'm asking any and all of you who were planning and coming to Toronto to
not change your plans. There is more risk from getting run down by
traffic or contracting the flu than from SARS.
Please read the attached and act accordingly,
Thanks for the indulgence,
Pierre Oliver
Actually, I just read on rec.models.railroad that the National Train Show
portion of the convention has been cancelled.

Brian


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

On 5/30/03 10:40 PM, "Schuyler G Larrabee" <SGL2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Chris, you have to register with Yahoo and set up a password of your own.
If/when you do, be sure to cruise around the site (I can't remember where it
is) and set your options so that you don't want ads, your email spread
around, etc. If you do that, it's not too bad, you don't get too much spam,
but if you're on more than one Yahoo list, see if you can set these
preferences for EVERY list, or bad stuff happens. And beware, they have
been known to add permissions to the list, and if you don't tell them to
knock it off, you get more crap, until you reaffirm that you don't want
that.

OTOH, I couldn't find the Seley photo(s) with either of the links.

SGL
Since he¹s a member of this list, doesn¹t that mean he already has an
account? You have to go to the STFMC Yahoo page to join in the first place.

Brian Ehni


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References

CBarkan@...
 

Actually such a reference is not a waste of time at all if one has access to
a good library, or at least one with good interlibrary loan policies. In
fact, an exact reference such as that is almost essential to obtaining the
information in that situation. I appreciate it when we get precise references.

Chris Barkan

In a message dated 5/31/03 10:49:46 AM, glwalls@frontiernet.net writes:

<< Kind of like this line" The

information you want is in Vol 69 from the 1924 issue of????????". A

responce like that is a waste of time. >>


Re: Barret Company ACF 10K Tank Cars

Thomas Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Richard and List:

The Post-war lettering set, Champ Barrett HT-69 is still available as a
Champ reprint from the ALps-50000 printer. The Champ set matches the
Tarvia tank cars seen in the consist of a Pennsy westbound coming out of
the Gallitzin tunnels in Herron's Pennsy Glory III tape.

I just had a set of three (the minimum for a Champ Alps reprint) done in
addition to some special sets for the Barrett tank/covered hopper set
and a Barrett 12,500 chemical tank (this particular car is in the ACF
book).

We had guessed that the lettering was silver and had all the sets done
that way although the description in Champ's Plan Book #2 (page 62)
shows the lettering to be white.

By the way, Richard, Kim did a great job on the Ethyl cars for me.
Thanks for sending me the scans as these were used to do the decals from
the Alps. Now that the computer digitalization is done, they can be
obtained through the Alps-5000 special order reprints.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
PH: (302) 738-4292
E-Mail: tmolsen@udel.edu



Richard Hendrickson wrote:


Shawn Beckert writes:

Browsing the Microscale web page this morning, I came
across a decal set for "The Barret Company" 10,000 gal.
tank cars built by ACF:

http://www.microscale.com/decals/mc4213.jpg

Since I don't find these listed in RPC's roster of ACF
Type-27's, I'm assuming the prototype was a Type-21 or
earlier car. The lettering in the decal set appears to
be green, so the car must be gray, silver or white.
The car numbers in the set are correct for Barrett AC&F Type 4 high
runnning board tank cars as imported in brass some years ago by W&R. I
have a photo of BMX 2140. The lettering in the set is pre-WW-II; the
postwar Barrett logo was different, with script Barrett in a circle and
slightly modified "Tarvia" next to it. I'll bet that the decal set is in
aluminum, as the cars in question were black with aluminum stenciling.
This set could probably be used, with some slight modifications, to letter
other prewar Barrett tank cars, but I'm not aware that any of them can be
modeled with plastic kits that are currently available. Barrett owned a
variety of different tank car types by several manufacturers - many were
insulated cars for the shipment of tar and road oil, and there were also
10.5 gal. ICC-105s for the shipment of anhydrous ammonia - but AFAIK no
conventional AC&F Type 21s or 27s.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


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Re: Seley Hoppers

C J Wyatt
 

I'd sure like to see these drawings! I've got a couple of the F&C Seley
cars for SOU. Anybody have any comments on what to watch out for with
'em?

I find it interesting that starting as WWII was winding down in early 1945,
Southern Railway actually convert some of the hoppers to AB brakes. The cars
obviously only had a few years left. I think the Southern was being rational
though, in that AB brakes on the old hopper cars had more benefits to
Southern operationally than AB brakes on a box car spending most of its time
offline.

Usually some of the side boards under the slope sheets were removed in the
AB conversion, apparently to give better access to the air brake equipment.

Jack Wyatt


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

Schuyler G Larrabee <SGL2@...>
 

Chris, you have to register with Yahoo and set up a password of your own.
If/when you do, be sure to cruise around the site (I can't remember where it
is) and set your options so that you don't want ads, your email spread
around, etc. If you do that, it's not too bad, you don't get too much spam,
but if you're on more than one Yahoo list, see if you can set these
preferences for EVERY list, or bad stuff happens. And beware, they have
been known to add permissions to the list, and if you don't tell them to
knock it off, you get more crap, until you reaffirm that you don't want
that.

OTOH, I couldn't find the Seley photo(s) with either of the links.

SGL

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Everytime I go to one of these it wants an ID and password, which I don't
know. Does everyone else know it except me? Please help, I like Seley
hoppers!

Chris Barkan


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Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

On 5/30/03 10:17 PM, "CBarkan@aol.com" <CBarkan@aol.com> wrote:

Everytime I go to one of these it wants an ID and password, which I don't
know. Does everyone else know it except me? Please help, I like Seley
hoppers!

Chris Barkan
Unless you have your computer remember such things for you, you have to
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Groups webpages.

Brian Ehni


Re: C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos

Schuyler G Larrabee <SGL2@...>
 

"USRA design" cars. Which is different from "USRA" cars.

SGL

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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


So what do we call the 1920s built cars which closely mimic the "USRA"
design?
Charlie

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Subject: Re: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


Jace, you're not the only one for whom that's fingernails on a
blackboard
.
. .

SGL
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Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


I suppose it is ironic that I, who am normally much less scrupulous
about
details than many on the list, still twitch when the term "USRA" is
used
for
cars that were never actually built for the historical USRA (cf.
previous
discussion about "USRA steel boxcars")
Jace Kahn
Mostly Fairbanks


David Thompson wrote:
Check the Appendix in the back for corrections. The panel-side
rebuilds were done in 1935.


David, thanks for the assist - I've got a book from the original
printing which doesn't have the Appendix.


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Re: C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos

Charles Morrill <badlands@...>
 

So what do we call the 1920s built cars which closely mimic the "USRA"
design?
Charlie

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Subject: Re: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


Jace, you're not the only one for whom that's fingernails on a blackboard
.
. .

SGL
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To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


I suppose it is ironic that I, who am normally much less scrupulous
about
details than many on the list, still twitch when the term "USRA" is used
for
cars that were never actually built for the historical USRA (cf.
previous
discussion about "USRA steel boxcars")
Jace Kahn
Mostly Fairbanks


David Thompson wrote:
Check the Appendix in the back for corrections. The panel-side
rebuilds were done in 1935.


David, thanks for the assist - I've got a book from the original
printing which doesn't have the Appendix.


Ben Hom
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Re: C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos

Schuyler G Larrabee <SGL2@...>
 

Jace, you're not the only one for whom that's fingernails on a blackboard .
. .

SGL

----- Original Message -----
From: "JGG KahnSr" <jacekahn@hotmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: [STMFC] C&O 3 bay USRA hopper photos


I suppose it is ironic that I, who am normally much less scrupulous about
details than many on the list, still twitch when the term "USRA" is used
for
cars that were never actually built for the historical USRA (cf. previous
discussion about "USRA steel boxcars")
Jace Kahn
Mostly Fairbanks


David Thompson wrote:
Check the Appendix in the back for corrections. The panel-side
rebuilds were done in 1935.


David, thanks for the assist - I've got a book from the original
printing which doesn't have the Appendix.


Ben Hom
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Intermountain R-40-18 PFE Reefers Here

Andy Carlson
 

Good news to those who ordered the latest PFE reefer
from Intermountain railway Co. Terry wegmann's kit is
now available factory assembled and I received my
shipment today. They have done a fine job, and the
brake gear is nicely done, as well. I will ship the
cars tomorrow for those who have ordered from me.

I have 3 cars unspoken for, and if anyone wants one,
send me a check for $28.50 (Post Paid), and I will
send you one in the US mail. Please contact me
off-list for this, and remember, I have only 3 left.
Regards, I remain
-Andy Carlson


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Re: Seley Hoppers

G. Walls <glwalls@...>
 

Larry,

Started changing colors in 1953.

And if you need more Seley hoppers. I have 4 more to sell NIB 19.00
ea.

That begs another question re. SOU hoppers--when did SOU change
from black
to red on coal hoppers?

Larry Lee
Auburn, AL


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

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Everytime I go to one of these it wants an ID and password, which I don't
know. Does everyone else know it except me? Please help, I like Seley hoppers!

Chris Barkan

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