Re: So why are we doing this?
Jeff Aley <jaley@...>
--- In STMFC@egroups.com, "Dave & Libby Nelson" <muskoka@i...> wrote:
Title sez it all.Because of those darn Floridians, I suppose. Everybody in the
country is slightly ticked off, and as a result, unpleasantness has
reared its head on FCL (and, I predict, on SteamLocomotives).
I suppose the list also exists to answer questions such as:
Given a commodity that was shipped by tank car, how do I determine
what type of car carried that commodity. Furthermore, how would I
determine what company or companies owned said type of car for that
For example, I recently learned that I need to ship sulfuric acid to
a corn mill (acid was used to produce corn oil). What kind of car do
I use (and more importantly, how can I find out for myself?)?
Should I just commit the ACF book and RPCyc to memory?
P.S. As a reminder, my era of interest is 1950-55.
Re: So why are we doing this?
Dick Harley <Dick.Harley@...>
As one who was permanently banded from the FCList unless I apologized to
Jim Six and his supporters (not likely), I personally hope that this could
be a forum for (mostly) serious discussion about the stated topic without
all the other BS that goes along with most email lists. I am not retired
and do not want do spend my days reading nonsense, hitting the delete key
or wishing people knew how to truncate old messages. I continue to spend
time and money doing a fair amount of railroad research - some of it
freight car related. I am more than willing to share that research with
those who appreciate the effort and contribute themselves. I'd be happy
if this list had three messages a week that were useful. I will not read
25 messages a day that are not useful. (And I have yet to see 25 messages
a day that were even 30% useful.) I prefer quality to quantity.
Whether this is what Mike Brock had in mind, I don't know. Whether this
duplicates the FCList, I'll never know.
Just my 2 cents,
Re: Used book sites
In a message dated 12/12/00 6:11:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
I tried http://www.abebooks.com/ and found two copies, and some>other interesting stuff.
Try it again, Richard. Or try simply AbeBooks.com. I tried it, and the
site is just wonderful. There's hardly a used railway title I couldn't find
on it. Even found a copy of "Painting of Railway Equipment,"
Simmons-Boardman 1924, written by Lackawanna shopforeman Miller. I've only
ever seen one other copy in circulation. I bought it. Two copies of Shay
Locomotive are on there -- that's just about the rarest of the rare.
Thanks, Jeff Aley, for suggesting the site.
All the best, ....Mike
In a message dated 12/12/00 5:58:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
I did.So did I. ....Mike
Used book sites
In a message dated 12/12/00 4:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Find _Tank Car Journeys_ in some used bookstore on the net.
I'd love to. Can someone recommend some good used book sites?
Full of ship...
In a message dated 12/12/00 3:21:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
For example, I recently learned that I need to ship sulfuric acid toThat's one of the real reasons why the Official Railway Equipment Register
and Official Guide existed. To help shippers with cars and shipping and
If this were the steam era and you wanted to ship sulphuric acid for the
first time ever and had a way to load it, your first call (or Western Union
message) might be to the interchanging railroad, who would say "We don't have
any tank cars, try Union Tank or American Car, Bye." You'd look up those
names in the ORER and give the company a call. In a perfect world they'd
walk you though the process and help you pick the type and number of cars you
need, and come up with a price; a sales rep. might show up for that purpose.
Then you'd arrange to ship the emptys with the railroad, and to ship the
loads to the customer. Anyone shipping tank cars also has to have a private
shop to clean and maintain the cars. You're supposed to get the car clean,
and at the end of your lease it needs to be returned clean. All of the above
is flexible as all kinds of deals are struck.
Some commodities are shipped in certain types of cars. Sulfuric Acid cars
might require special linings and what not -- stuff that's noted in the ORER.
Certain liquids are denser than others, so car sizes need to be worked out.
These were full time jobs for some bigger shippers ....Mike
So why are we doing this?
Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
Title sez it all.
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