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L&N gondola question

Garrett Rea <Garrett.Rea@...>
 

All:

I need handbrake and paint/lettering info for the following two groups of
L&N gons:

L&N 25300-25549 built by Pullman (Birmingham) in 6-30

L&N 25550-25799 built by Mt. Vernon in 1929

I am trying to find out if they ever got "THE DIXIE LINE" treatment.

Thanks-

Garrett Rea
Nashville, TN


Re: Next Years Naperville

Joel Norman <mec-bml@...>
 

denny.Who do you get in touch with to get on the mailing list so I dont miss
the chance to go????..........why dont we all go as PRRX-29's????
Joel
Eastern Maine Rly---''Weres its always ''Summer 1950''
''Route of the Yella Moose''

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny Anspach" <danspach@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Re: Next Years Naperville


The Sunshine Naperville meet over Halloween? Wow! What a truly great
excuse to get out of town.

Denny
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Sacramento


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ADMIN: Re: James W Smith/RES/Raytheon/US is out of the office.

Walter M. Clark
 

Mike-

Thanks, that was needed.

Walter M. Clark
Time stopped in November 1941
Riverside, California

--- In STMFC@..., "mike brock" <brockm@b...> wrote:
James Smith wrote:
"I will be out of the office starting 11/17/2003 and will not
return until
01/05/2004."
Which is entirely Jim's business. However, such automatic message
processing has nothing whatever to do with frt cars. In fact, it
indicates that other automatic messages might be sent to the STMFC in
his absence from his computer. Therefore, this member has been removed
from the STMFC until he returns and verifies automatic message
processing will not access the STMFC. I normally do not make such
management moves public but I want other members to be aware that such
processes should be avoided and that we're going to enforce STMFC
rules a bit more seriously in the future. Thanks.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner





Still need help with a 4' NSC flatcar for Ontario Northland

Garrett W. Rea <Garrett.Rea@...>
 

All:

No replies yet, anyone have any suggestions of where to look or what
car in HO can be used?

Thanks-

Garrett Rea
Nashville, TN

"Garrett W. Rea" <Garrett.Rea@w...> wrote:

All:

Anyone know about the NSC 40' flat cars built in 1940 for Ontario
Northland? There were 50 in the number series 100201-299.

Thanks-

Garrett Rea
Nashville, TN


Re: Prototype Cyclopedias

Shawn Beckert
 

Volume Two.

Shawn Beckert

-----Original Message-----
From: ed_mines [mailto:ed_mines@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 2:09 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Prototype Cyclopedias


Which other Prototype Cyclopedias are out of print?

Ed Mines



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Prototype Cyclopedias

ed_mines
 

Which other Prototype Cyclopedias are out of print?

Ed Mines


bumpy, textured paint

ed_mines
 

Give the object a light coat of flat black the standard way to get in
all the cracks and crevices.Then apply more paint with the tip of the
airbrush further away than you normally do.

Instead of liquid paint hitting the object being coated, small,
sticky plastic beads will hit the object.

Using a faster thinner can also give the same result.

Remember when this idiotic technique was used so a solvent paint like
Floquil could be applied to plastic without barrier or crazing?

Some of my customers use this technique so the coating will not pull
back when items being coated aren't clean. The resultant coating is
very matte and can be scraped off with a finger nail. The coating
doesn't provide the protection it should however.

When I first got started building HO models I inadvertantly painted
the roofs of some Walthers tinplate sided passenger cars using this
technique. I was surprised how old and beat up the roof looked.

Ed Mines


Re: Asphaltum

ELDEN GATWOOD <ELDEN.GATWOOD@...>
 

A lot of the photos I've seen of cars that appear to have had asphaltum
applied to them, and that also have some years on them appear to weather
toward a slightly brownish black color. I have tried to simulate it by
mixing some burnt umber in with the black, and trying not to mix it all that
thoroughly. That gives a slightly uneven look. I also fully agree with the
brush method. It looks really nice!

Elden

-----Original Message-----
From: benjaminfrank_hom [mailto:b.hom@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:04 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

Shawn Beckert wrote:
So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Actually, a simple coat of *dead* flat black works great. It's a
trick I picked up from Richard hendrickson, and if it's good for him,
it's good enough for me too.


Ben Hom





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Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

Ray Breyer <rbreyer@...>
 

Plain old flat black paint works well for me. I generally apply it with a
brush, though, to give it a less even appearance.

I've heard about modelers using this technique: add a coat of paint,
sprinkle on a layer of baking soda, and repaint. This supposedly gives the
roof a nice bumpy appearance that isn't too out of scale. But like with the
gaps between a wood sided car's siding boards, YMMV.

Ray Breyer

-----Original Message-----
From: benjaminfrank_hom [mailto:b.hom@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:04 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

Shawn Beckert wrote:
So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Actually, a simple coat of *dead* flat black works great. It's a
trick I picked up from Richard hendrickson, and if it's good for him,
it's good enough for me too.

Ben Hom


Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

thompson@...
 

Ben Hom said:
Actually, a simple coat of *dead* flat black works great. It's a
trick I picked up from Richard hendrickson, and if it's good for him,
it's good enough for me too.
All you need to do to get some texture is to brush paint it. Look at any
good roof shot to see that this does indeed capture much of the look. That
roof cement was sludgy stuff.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history


Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Shawn Beckert wrote:
So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Actually, a simple coat of *dead* flat black works great. It's a
trick I picked up from Richard hendrickson, and if it's good for him,
it's good enough for me too.


Ben Hom


Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

bill schneider <branch@...>
 

I painted a passenger car the other night that came out just right for
asphalttum... :>(

Seriously, assuming an airbrush job - how about an overcoat of unthinned
Floquil black, applied from a greater distance and broad setting so that it
goes on almost dry. Might just work....

Bill Schneider

PRR Guys,

So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Shawn Beckert


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Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

Andrew S. Miller <asmiller@...>
 

The texture on asphaltum is probably very fine in HO. It may not be
visible to the naked eye. That said, there are texture finish paints
available in spray cans from Home Depot et.al.. You could use any
color and cover it with Grimy Black.

Regards,

Andrew S. Miller

=======================================================
"Beckert, Shawn" wrote:

PRR Guys,

So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Shawn Beckert


Re: PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

eabracher@...
 

In a message dated 11/19/03 3:19:47 PM, rbreyer@... writes:

<<

I've heard about modelers using this technique: add a coat of paint,

sprinkle on a layer of baking soda, and repaint. This supposedly gives the

>>

Talc or corn starch added to the paint will thicken it up and give a bumpy
surface.


PRR Car Roofs - Asphaltum

Shawn Beckert
 

PRR Guys,

So how do you simulate Asphaltum? I'm assuming a simple
coat of flat back won't do. How would you add texture
to a car roof - maybe set your spray gun on "splatter"?

Shawn Beckert


On "running" boards and safety

CBarkan@...
 

In a message dated 11/19/03 11:07:24 AM, asmiller@... writes:
<< BTW While "running boards" has been established as the "official" term,
I, for one, could never understand this. Anyone caught running on a
running board would probably have been reprimanded for a safety
violation and told he must walk (but not on the roof walk!!). >>

The name probably originated back in the "good old days" (ante-air brakes,
i.e. pre1880s) when brakemen probably did have to run along the running boards
to set brakes before the train "ran" away on a long downgrade. Safety rules
were generally unheard of then. Remember, modern railroad industry safety
consciousness developed in the early 20th century largely due to the "Safety First"
movement of that era.

It is hard to imagine them be renamed "walking boards", but perhaps
"boardwalk" would have been more fun!

Chris


Re: PRR Roof "colors"

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:
Go from the photos! If you doubt your eyes, ask someone else. And if
someone criticizes you for a choice, ask them for definitive evidence.
Chances are they are blowing smoke and don't have the goods.

Sounds like good advice to follow. Here's another suggestion - pick
up a copy of Railroad Prototype Cyclopedia Vol 3, which contains an
outstanding article on boxcar painting and lettering practices by Pat
Wider which would have answered 80% of the questions posted on this
subject over the past month. The article even has 12 pages of period
b&w and color photos, printed 2 per page (no Schleicher postage-stamp
sized photos here). It's out of print, but some networking on this
list should turn up copies lingering at somone's hobby shop out there.


Ben Hom


Re: galvanized roofs

thompson@...
 

When did galvanized roofs become popular?
The 1903 Car Builders Dictionary shows numerous inside and outside metal
roofs using galvanized steel sheet. They may have become popular earlier.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history


Re: Next Years Naperville

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

The Sunshine Naperville meet over Halloween? Wow! What a truly great excuse to get out of town.

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: galvanized roofs

Andrew S. Miller <asmiller@...>
 

Ed,

I would assume the running boards (AKA roof walks) would be galvanized
and that they would be bolted or riveted to the roof.

Regards,

Andrew S. Miller


BTW While "running boards" has been established as the "official" term,
I, for one, could never understand this. Anyone caught running on a
running board would probably have been reprimanded for a safety
violation and told he must walk (but not on the roof walk!!).
=======================================================
ed_mines wrote:

When did galvanized roofs become popular?

I assumed that the typical rectangular panel Murphy roof was
galvanized.How about earlier press steel roofs?

Were metal roof walks galvanized? I would think any kind of welding
would burn off the zinc. Were they galvanized or regalvanized after
welding?

Ed Mines

169821 - 169840 of 195635