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Märklin U.P. CA-3 caboose marker lights.

Arnold van Heyst
 

From which year on, did they get theire marker lights?
I have a Märklin CA-3 caboose, and this one has marker lights on one
side of the cupola.

Arnold.


Re: Speaking of odd tank cars...

Garth Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Bruce,

I suspect that some of these cars might have seen on-base use at some places, possibly as a training tool at the Army railway school at Ft. Eustis. There is/was a similar military tank car and also a boxcar sitting at Covington, Virginia, on the remains of a failed tourist line (was called Virginia Central, I think). Obviously, not all such cars were shipped overseas, and Ft. Eustis would have been a logical source for such a car in Virginia.

And speaking of odd military cars, there used to be a whole string of 36' single-sheathed army boxcars sitting among the trees at Mt. Union, Pennsylvania, hard by the old East Broad Top engine house. These were standard gauge, and not equipped for overseas operation. I've heard the area is now a shopping center, so I suppose they are all gone.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Bruce Smith wrote:

Hello all,

While perusing the pages of The United States Military Railway Service, America's Soldier-Railroaders in WWII, by Don DeNevi and Bob Hall (ISBN 1-55046-021-8), which is loaded with great WWII era photos, I saw several photos of 2-dome tank cars (pages 86, 108).

Both photos were taken in the British Isles, of tank cars built in the USA for use on the continent after D-Day. The cars are labeled "Transportation Corps, US Army" and the reporting marks are in the USA 17,000 series and appear to be around 10,000 gallon in size and are both 3 and 4 course in design. The sills are a simple box design with with the channel facing inward with european buffers and couplers.

The first thing that caught my eye was that these cars have only one platform. That's right, out of 4 possible locations (2 domes, 2 sides) only one dome has a loading platform and only on one side. Closer inspection indicates that each dome has only one safety valve and only one dome has a hatch (that would be the one with the platform <G>). No rivet lines are evident for internal tank bulkheads...

So what these appear to be are 2-dome cars, that are a single tank... weird... Anything like this ever get used domestically in the US?

Happy Rails
Bruce


Re: Carmer cut levers

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Jul 20, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Larry Smith wrote:

What type of Carmer cut levers did the USRA single sheathed cars use. 
I
just bout some from Freestatessystems and want to use them on the
cars I
have.
Larry:

Use the ones that are for the X26 as shown in the diagram.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


Re: Trix U.P. CA-3 caboose.

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

"mrdata1968" wrote:
Where can I buy these GSI outside-swing-hanger trucks? Walthers?

Yes.
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-1062


Ben Hom


Re: Speaking of odd tank cars...

Richard Hendrickson
 

Bruce Smith writes:

While perusing the pages of The United States Military Railway Service,
America's Soldier-Railroaders in WWII, by Don DeNevi and Bob Hall (ISBN
1-55046-021-8), which is loaded with great WWII era photos, I saw
several photos of 2-dome tank cars (pages 86, 108).

Both photos were taken in the British Isles, of tank cars built in the
USA for use on the continent after D-Day. The cars are labeled
"Transportation Corps, US Army" and the reporting marks are in the USA
17,000 series and appear to be around 10,000 gallon in size and are
both 3 and 4 course in design. The sills are a simple box design with
with the channel facing inward with european buffers and couplers.

The first thing that caught my eye was that these cars have only one
platform. That's right, out of 4 possible locations (2 domes, 2 sides)
only one dome has a loading platform and only on one side. Closer
inspection indicates that each dome has only one safety valve and only
one dome has a hatch (that would be the one with the platform <G>). No
rivet lines are evident for internal tank bulkheads...

So what these appear to be are 2-dome cars, that are a single tank...
weird... Anything like this ever get used domestically in the US?
No. I have a photo of one of these cars numbered USA 1332 stenciled "for
diesel oil service only," heavily weathered and out of service (with an
even more heavily weathered European steam loco partly visible behind it).
It had a four horizontal course tank. My guess about the reason for the
two domes is that a single dome of adequate expansion capacity would have
been too tall for European line clearances, so two domes were fitted to
provide adequate room for expansion but only one a platform and an access
hatch. There would have been no reason to build such a car for service in
North America and AFAIK it was never done.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Trix U.P. CA-3 caboose.

Arnold van Heyst
 

From which year on, did they get theire marker lights?
I have a Märklin, and this one has marker lights on the cupola.


Re: Wanda Petroleum

Richard Hendrickson
 

From Shawn Beckert:

We're having a discussion over on the baby boomer list about
Wanda Petroleum (Houston, Texas) and its fleet of tank cars.
I've been on the net this morning looking for references to
Wanda Petroleum and have found very little.

Could one of you people with access to a Moody's Industrial
please look up this company? I'd like to pin down when Wanda
actually came into existence - during or after the steam era?
I can't help much, Shawn, but I do have one photo of a GATX car lettered
for Wanda petroleum. However, it was a 75' frameless whalebelly welded
propane car that was brand new in 1963, so definitely not steam era.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Lost parts

Manfred Lorenz
 

here is an example of a solution withour wearing an apron (and
calling for strange looks):

http://www.hp-pfeiffer.de/04_uebers/auffang/auffang.html

Manfred


Trix U.P. CA-3 caboose.

Arnold van Heyst
 

Where can i buy these GSI outside-swing-hanger trucks?
Walthers?


Carmer cut levers

Larry Smith
 

What type of Carmer cut levers did the USRA single sheathed cars use. I just bout some from Freestatessystems and want to use them on the cars I have.

Larry Smith


FW: Interesting load

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

IIRC, these folks made some very nice cast metal kits of ATSF 2-8-2s as
well.
--
Brian Ehni

------ Forwarded Message
From: Bruce Smith <smithbf@mail.auburn.edu>
Reply-To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:44:53 -0500
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>, PRR-TALK TALK'' <Prr-Talk@dsop.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Interesting load

(Snip)

BTW, in case you're feeling like investing in flat cat loads, the
locomotive appears to be very close to the DJH (HO) kit.
http://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk/acatalog/
DJH_Model_Locomotive_American_HO_Scale_Kits__76.html

Happy Rails
Bruce


Interesting load

Bruce Smith <smithbf@...>
 

I found an interesting photograph of a Russian export 2-8-0 steam engine on PRR F30A 474099 on page 82 of "The United States Military Railway Service, America's Soldier-Railroaders in WWII", by Don DeNevi and Bob Hall (ISBN 1-55046-021-8).

In the background is a car (GS gon?) laden with coal with only a portion of its lettering, "ERN PA" (sans serif style), visible. The flat appears to have a reweigh date of 6-42. Given that flats traveled far more than GS gons full of coal, I wonder if this photograph was taken on the left coast of a locomotive preparing to head to Vladivostok via the Pacific? The tender is presumably on another flat car out of the picture.

BTW, in case you're feeling like investing in flat cat loads, the locomotive appears to be very close to the DJH (HO) kit. http://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk/acatalog/ DJH_Model_Locomotive_American_HO_Scale_Kits__76.html

Happy Rails
Bruce

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Scott-Ritchey Research Center
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Wanda Petroleum

Shawn Beckert
 

Guys,

We're having a discussion over on the baby boomer list about
Wanda Petroleum (Houston, Texas) and its fleet of tank cars.
I've been on the net this morning looking for references to
Wanda Petroleum and have found very little.

Could one of you people with access to a Moody's Industrial
please look up this company? I'd like to pin down when Wanda
actually came into existence - during or after the steam era?

Thanks,

Shawn Beckert


Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Bill (?) wrote:
Don't forget the Athearn cars.

????

We've already established that the cars that Phil asked about are NOT
the Athearn cars.


Ben Hom


Speaking of odd tank cars...

Bruce Smith <smithbf@...>
 

Hello all,

While perusing the pages of The United States Military Railway Service, America's Soldier-Railroaders in WWII, by Don DeNevi and Bob Hall (ISBN 1-55046-021-8), which is loaded with great WWII era photos, I saw several photos of 2-dome tank cars (pages 86, 108).

Both photos were taken in the British Isles, of tank cars built in the USA for use on the continent after D-Day. The cars are labeled "Transportation Corps, US Army" and the reporting marks are in the USA 17,000 series and appear to be around 10,000 gallon in size and are both 3 and 4 course in design. The sills are a simple box design with with the channel facing inward with european buffers and couplers.

The first thing that caught my eye was that these cars have only one platform. That's right, out of 4 possible locations (2 domes, 2 sides) only one dome has a loading platform and only on one side. Closer inspection indicates that each dome has only one safety valve and only one dome has a hatch (that would be the one with the platform <G>). No rivet lines are evident for internal tank bulkheads...

So what these appear to be are 2-dome cars, that are a single tank... weird... Anything like this ever get used domestically in the US?

Happy Rails
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D.
Scott-Ritchey Research Center
334-844-5587, 334-844-5850 (fax)
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

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Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

Doug Brown <brown194@...>
 

Varney stamped box cars were very short, approx 9 ft IH. I have one
lettered for a PS-1.

Doug Brown

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Miller [mailto:atsf@inow.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:48 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

Was there another line of stamped metal cars<
Varney made a line of stamped cars but I would doubt if they matched
anything except possibly the lettering was close!

Jon Miller


Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Phil Buchwald asked:
"Was there another line of stamped metal cars which were based upon
the shorter 1932 cars?"

Jon Miller answered:
"Varney made a line of stamped cars but I would doubt if they matched
anything except possibly the lettering was close."

Actually, the Varney boxcars did model the lower 1932 ARA cars.
Their level of detail certainly wasn't up to that of the Athearn or
Globe cars (especially the ends), but they were the kits the
aforementioned reviewer had in mind which he misidentified as the
Athearn cars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=38278&item=5910538619&rd=1

(Sorry about the crappy photo, but this is the best example of a MIB
kit that I could find on eBay.)

FWIW, the Varney cars are still available from Bowser, though they're
in the process of closing them out.
http://www.bowser-trains.com/hocars/hocars.htm


Ben Hom


Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Was there another line of stamped metal cars<
Varney made a line of stamped cars but I would doubt if they matched
anything except possibly the lettering was close!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

buchwaldfam <buchwaldfam@...>
 

I saw a description of the sunshine 1932 ARA box cars a few years
back (I believe in RMJ, but not sure... have to dig the issue back
out of the pile). Anyway, the reviewer gave a brief description of
the car and made a comment that the 1932 car was the prototype for
the old Athearn metal box cars. Having acquired a few of these old
metal cars (they're fun to build, if not up to current standards!),
the ends didn't count out properly for a 1932 car, never mind the car
height.
Was there another line of stamped metal cars which were based
upon the shorter 1932 cars?

Regards,
Phil Buchwald


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "pullmanboss" <tgmadden@w...> wrote:
Ben Hom:
OK - now the light comes on! For years, I've seen bits and
pieces
of
the Globe AAR boxcars floating around, but never in Globe boxes.
Without being able to put them in any other context, I had
assumed
they were another variation of Athearn's metal kits. Now it
makes
sense.
Globe box cars had 4-5 dreadnaught ends; Athearns had 5-5.

Tom Madden


Re: Globe Freight Car Models (was Kadee #58s)

WBa2485811@...
 

Don't forget the athearn Cars.

Bill

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