|
Re: Q re: ubiquitous solid bearing "Bettendorf" freight trucks
Athearn #90400 "Bettendorf" = ??50 ton ASF A-3 Atlas #185000 "Bettendorf" = ??50 ton Barber S-2 Tichy #3008 "Bettendorf" = 70 ton AAR (ASF)self-aligning spr. plankless70 ton? I don't think so. Proto #21251 = 50 ton (AAR?) (?)spring planklessScullin 50 ton, I think.
|
|
|
|
Re: BLI REA reefers
Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
In reference to the Walthers ?? cars: The Walther's September announcements on their web site lists the BLI cars that I listed in my email of Sunday. Tim, is it possible that these cars that are listed under the BLI manufacturers listing on the Walther's web site were the one's that you had seen?
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Tom Olsen Newark, Delaware Jon Miller wrote:
Thomas,
|
|
|
|
Re: BLI REA reefers
Steve Sandifer <jssand@...>
What is the breakdown on years for paint schemes? It is my understanding that
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Pullman green - 30s - 1954 Red diamond - 1954-64 X logo - 1964+ -------------------- J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer mailto:steve.sandifer@... Home: 12027 Mulholland Dr., Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918 Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417 Personal: http://users2.ev1.net/~jssand/index.htm Church: http://www.swcentral.org Railway: http://www.trainweb.org/jssand Webmaster: http://www.ATSFRR.net
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] BLI REA reefers Are these General American wood reefers? The same ones Walthers is producing? The same ones Precision Scale is importing? It seems like it's always feast or famine... Pre-ordering is not only a shot in the dark, but it's really not necessary 98% of the time. I think with two plastic versions at once there's going to be some dumping going on. >Not any replies on the Passenger car list so will try here! BLIs new >express reefers are due soon. The ones I ordered were; >_884 REX #1201 & 1202, Railway Express Agency, Pullman green, HO_ >However assuming the picture they show is not always right aren't these >"REA" and not REX. Pullman green seems to be correct for my era and the >pictured car is correct (I think). >Pre-ordering is always a shot in the dark nowadays. > >Jon Miller Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
|
|
|
|
Re: fallen flags web site intriguing car
Richard Hendrickson
An interesting photo on this site is of CNW 128698, a double sheathed boxRob, it appears that the vertical wooden posts of the side framing were exposed, with the sheathing fitted between them and the surface of the posts standing out slightly farther than the sheathing. The diagonals would have been concealed inside the sheathing. Note the bolts that secured the vertical posts to the side sill. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520
|
|
|
|
Kits for Sale at Naperville
Keith Jordan
To Those of You Who Still Build Kits,
I have the following InterMountain HO unbuilt kits for sale and would be willing to bring them next week to Naperville. Let me know, offline, please. PFE R-40-10 Car No. 42533 Single Herald Original Run 15.00 PFE R-40-10 Car No. 42474 Single Herald Original Run 15.00 PFE R-40-10 Car No. 42480 Single Herald Premium Line 20.00 PFE R-40-10 Car No. 42653 Single Herald Premium Line 20.00 PFE R-40-10 Car No. 42599 Single Herald Premium Line 20.00 SFRD RR-27 Car No. 34866 El Capitan/Curve Line Map 15.00 SFRD RR-27 Car No. 34721 Grand Canyon/Curve Line Map 15.00 PFE R-40-23 Undecorated 4 Kits Original Run 10.00 each SFRD Rr-19/23/25/27/28/32 Undecorated 6 Kits Original Run 15.00 each Again, contact me offline if you want 'em. See you in Naperville. Keith Jordan
|
|
|
|
Tools
Schuyler Larrabee
A while back we had a thread on tools, started
with tweezers, I think. Sometimes you have to look at stuff with more than one mindset. I was seeking toothpicks (for mixing up epoxy to use on steam era freight cars) today at the store. I wound up, thanks to misdirection from an employee, in the dental section. GUM and Oral-B both offer li'l teeny brushes about 3/32" in diameter and !1/2" long on handles, like a bottle brush shape. GUM's are tapered, Oral-B isn't. I expect them to be useful for cleaning out small spaces on models. SGL
|
|
|
|
Re: PSC 12,000 Gallon tank
Richard Townsend
Thanks for the info. Think one is worth $39?
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...> wrote:
I saw a PSC (I think) "12,000 gallon" insulated tank car model at theRich, some years ago PSC imported some "bargain" models of HP ICC-105 tank --
Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
|
|
|
|
Re: fallen flags web site intriguing car
Schuyler Larrabee
Yes, that is interesting. It looks to me like
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
overlaid? steel? bars on the side. The fasteners at the bottom of the side at each vertical piece lend to that impression. They >could< also be thicker, and wider, wooden pieces. Interesting. SGL
-----Original Message-----intriguing car 128698, a double sheathed box car from 1912. What I found oddwas the dark lines or shadows spaced along the sidesheathing, making it look somewhat like the panels of a steelsheathed car. What is it in the design that gives this appearance?http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/cnw128698asw.jp g removed] pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/9Mt olB/TM -------------------------------------------------- ------------ ------~->
|
|
|
|
ADMIN: Software Discussions= Not.
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
As Ben Hom so eloquently put it...discussions about computer software has little to do with our agreed to subject matter and is entirely out of scope.
Strike one. Mike Brock STMFC Owner
|
|
|
|
Re: Wooden Running Boards - Dates
Schuyler Larrabee
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-----Original Message-----[mailto:timboconnor@...] cars built with them prior to 1944 -- when they becamerequired equipment. Tim, I assume you mean required on NEW equipment? SGL
|
|
|
|
Re: Kadee #78 Couplers - Revised design
Schuyler Larrabee
So, what color do the old style 78's come in, so I
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
can figure out when the new style are in stock? Of course, by doing that, the old stock will be in stock for quite a while . . . The shops I've been in haven't even known there WAS a 78 . . . SGL
-----Original Message-----design them to release the "fixed" vesion of their #78 "scalecouplers with the Narrow draftreleased them about a year ago. This makes a big visualimprovement. (By fixed, I mean eliminated the big gap between theknuckle and the coupler body) Theshank and are not interchangeable. I was told by Kadeethat they had also "fixed" and produced the revised #78coupler but that they were not going to release them to thepublic until they sold out all of their inventories of the oldones with the gap in them. In the meantime, they areincluding the revised #78 design on their HO freight cars.boxes but I for one, do not plan on purchasing any more ofthe old style #78s. Perhaps inquires from other modelers willaccelerate the revised design release.anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/9Mt olB/TM -------------------------------------------------- ------------ ------~->
|
|
|
|
Re: Free Range Coal Hoppers -- N&W
Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...>
Brian Chapman wrote:
There have been several extensive threads concerning N&W hoppers,From page 79 of the 1948 AAR Superintendents' PROCEEDINGS OF THE 52ND ANNUAL MEETING, "There are certain ownerships of coal cars in which there are definite restrictions against loading the cars on the rails of any carrier other than the owning road: for example, the so-called 'C-411' cars which are the C&O, L&N, N&W and Virginian marks." Therefore, any N&W (or C&O, L&N, VGN) hopper seen in the Mid-West either contained coal mined on those roads, or was returning to those roads empty. Tim Gilbert
|
|
|
|
B&O Covered Hoppers
Edwin C Kirstatter <q1xamacarthur@...>
Dear "Loconut35"
The B&O Grey mix, that you mention, using Floquil paints is for PASSENGER cars NOT freight cars! Not the same color. Paint your B&O Covered hoppers Cement Grey. I used to use Floquil Primer this is many years ago. I thought it was perfect for the cement grey color. Then Floquil changed there primer to a darker grey still not as dark as Reefer Grey or Cement. The next time I have to do a B&O grey covered hopper I think I will add some Reefer white to the primer until it looks like what it used to look like. I didn't know that F&C made a B&O Class N-31 Covered Wagon type model. I had seen one of their N-34 W-T covered hopper that they make exclusively for Central Hobby Supply. Not the same car. The B&O only built one N-31 #630200 a 50-Ton Cement car in 1935 using special steels to keep the weight down. The 200 N-34 were 70 Ton Cement cars built in 1940 with Duryea underframes. At some time in its life the N-31 was painted a very dark color. I would guess it was black because of the darkness of the B&W photo I have seen of it. Edwin C. Kirstatter, B&O Modeler. ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!
|
|
|
|
Re: Lookout utility - Google alternative
Schuyler Larrabee
Pete Brown and 'Bob' Crispen have been discussing
the Lookout utility offered (or not, as the case sometimes is) by Microsoft which allows you to search your own computer. I downloaded the Google alternative the other day. It has, in the background while I've been doing other stuff, searched my entire hard drive, and I can now search everything on there. I found stuff I've got that I'd forgotten I had ever seen. Very fast. Searches my hard drive when I use conventional Google to the web, and has already told me I'd already found the answer to that question once before, and that it was on my hard drive. Good stuff, as far as I can tell, and isn't from MicroSoft for those who don't want to support Redmonds millionaires. Now, shall we get back on topic? SGL
|
|
|
|
New Member Here
alain_5277 <opalockamishabob@...>
Hello All,
Just a note to inform you that one of the gretest booksellers in the northeast, Edward R. Hamilton, has a complete section in his catalog dedicated to Railroads and a sub-section for steam. In the latest catalog I've received, there is a 9, VHS tape set entitled, "America's Historic Steam Railroads" Item # is 3299090. Here is the link for railroad section: http://www.edwardrhamilton.com/subject1/rr.html Here is the link for the VHS items: http://www.edwardrhamilton.com/titles/3/2/9/3299090.html I have no personal or financial interest in the company whatsoever. I have been purchasing books from him for 16 years now and have never been disappointed. Alain...San Diego
|
|
|
|
Q re: ubiquitous solid bearing "Bettendorf" freight trucks
oliver
Other than the Dec 2003 MR article, is there a good listing of what
each of the major manufacturers' trucks really represent? I know what some of the trucks are, but others seem a mystery! Can someone fill in the missing data or add to this list? Kadee #500 "Bettendorf" = 50 ton AAR (?) double truss ?? Athearn #90400 "Bettendorf" = ?? Atlas #185000 "Bettendorf" = ?? Accurail #100 "Bettendorf" = 70 ton AAR (?)with spring planks Tichy #3008 "Bettendorf" = 70 ton AAR (ASF)self-aligning spr. plankless ECW #9053 "Bettendorf" = 70 ton AAR (?)self-aligning spring plankless Proto #21251 = 50 ton (AAR?) (?)spring plankless Proto #3212560 = 50 ton AAR (?) simplex bolsters thanks for the help Stefan Duncan, BC Canada
|
|
|
|
fallen flags web site intriguing car
Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
An interesting photo on this site is of CNW 128698, a double sheathed box car from 1912. What I found odd was the dark lines or shadows spaced along the side sheathing, making it look somewhat like the panels of a steel sheathed car. What is it in the design that gives this appearance?
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/cnw128698asw.jpg Rob Kirkham
|
|
|
|
Roaming freight cars
Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
I know that photos of freight cars that are not where they are suppose to be are of interest to some on this group. I was looking at the images on the Wheeler CD I had burned before mailing it tomorrow and noticed SP 461873. This is a two bay ballast style hopper. It was spotted at Stewartville MN awaiting loading with iron ore. Sidney must have had a likening for SP cars there are quite a few SP and TNO cars.
Saturday we stopped at the Wilder museum in Spring Valley MN . I wanted to see the iron ore exhibit that was mentioned in the newspaper article I posted on this site a couple weeks ago. The museum charges a fee and the elderly ladies there thought I needed to see the entire museum. I explained I only had time for the iron ore exhibit. Finally we came to an understanding and I got a tour of the museum. (except for the Laura Ingles part thank goodness) I was glad I did because they had several of the ore nuggets on display. They are jagged rocks about 1" to 3" either tan or dark gray. I was able to get a photo copy of a photo of the load out facility. Recognizable hoppers being loaded are CGW (3), CB&Q, NKP, and NYC. Clark Propst
|
|
|
|
Re: Wooden Running Boards - Dates
Gene Green <lgreen@...>
About 1938 - working from memory here, can't confirm until I'm back
home next month - the AAR asked the railroads to test various metal running boards. It was only after the test period that metal running boards were required. Wood running boards on cars already built were, of course, grandfathered in. Gene Green
|
|
|
|
Re: Wooden Running Boards - Dates
Jerry,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Southern Pacific alone took delivery on nearly 6,000 box cars from 1940 to 1942 with metal grid running boards. Also the 1,000 R-40-14's built during the war were so equipped. All of the C&NW and NKP War Emergency box cars were equipped with metal grid running boards. Perhaps other people can cite other batches of cars built with them prior to 1944 -- when they became required equipment. Tim O.
Richard, I hate taking you to task about this. But it is
|
|
|