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Re: links

Pete Brown &#92;(YahooGroups&#92;) <YahooLists@...>
 

Hi Al

I usually use my web server's "referring page" logs to keep track of who is
linked to me. Running those for a year or more of data (if you even had it)
would take forever, though.

However, you can get a subset of the results if you go to www.google.com and
type your old site's address in the search (leave out the http) and click
the search button. You will then be able to get options to list "sites that
contain ...", "sites that link to ..." etc.

Keep in mind that it will only return sites that are cataloged by Google.
That is pretty much every major site, but few of the tiny personal sites.
The only way you get into Google is by submitting your site (free), or by
being linked-to on a site that is already cataloged by Google.

HTH

Pete
_____________________________________________________
 Pete Brown - Gambrills, MD (Near Annapolis)
 Visit my personal site : http://www.irritatedVowel.com
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links

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Does anyone know of a program that will identify which sites are linked to my old web page so that I may notify them of the change to the new web site? Thanks. - Al Westerfield


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

John & Sue Bartolotto <jsbart@...>
 

Thanks guys! Great info.

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson [mailto:thompson@signaturepress.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 9:19 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer



Wow, this generated more discussion than I expected. I happen to have
the Walthers car handy and it is a wood sided car (not that that
means it is correct) and the reporting marks are GBCX 107. Other data
includes
CAPY 7000 lbs
LD LMT 80500 lbs
WT 51500 E.R. 11-33
Rebuilt 8-33 (to the right of the above data)
It Sides are painted white, ends and roof brown, Lettering on the
sides is black with a red GENESEE and red cicle around a black circle
on the right side.
After 1934, the ICC decision would not have allowed new billboard
reefer paint (though existing ones were grandfathered two more years).
Roger Hinman identified the Genesee lease as 1935-36. This suggests to
me that the paint scheme on this model is bogus.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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a note from Al Buchan PRRT&HS

Greg Martin
 

All,

I received this note from Al Buchan this morning and knew I should pass it
along to all of you... Bruce is very active in all areas of modeling and very
strong within the PRRT&HS... I hope you will join in with us and wish Bruce
Smith God's Speed...

Now from Al...

Dear friends:

It is with much regret that I advise you that our very good friend and fellow
PRR modeler Bruce Smith is in the hospital with a pulmonary embolism. His
wife, Tami emailed me this morning about his condition. The good news is it
appears that he turned the corner yesterday afternoon and is on the road to
recovery. The bad news is he will likely be in the hospital for the next 3-5 days
(perhaps longer) and it is not very clear at all how much he will be able to do
in the coming weeks.

What a trooper he is, as he told Tami to contact me as I might be waiting for
stuff from him for TKM and he wanted me to know it would be delayed and not
sure for how long.

Please join me in praying for Bruce's rapid recovery and return to his normal
activities.

Those wishing to send him a get well card, his address is:

642 Woody Drive
Auburn, Al 36832-3400

Al


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Wow, this generated more discussion than I expected. I happen to have
the Walthers car handy and it is a wood sided car (not that that
means it is correct) and the reporting marks are GBCX 107. Other data
includes
CAPY 7000 lbs
LD LMT 80500 lbs
WT 51500 E.R. 11-33
Rebuilt 8-33 (to the right of the above data)
It Sides are painted white, ends and roof brown, Lettering on the
sides is black with a red GENESEE and red cicle around a black circle
on the right side.
After 1934, the ICC decision would not have allowed new billboard reefer paint (though existing ones were grandfathered two more years). Roger Hinman identified the Genesee lease as 1935-36. This suggests to me that the paint scheme on this model is bogus.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Multi Compartment Tank Cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Jay Styron wrote:
I was doing some research on tank cars used in wine service today,
and discovered that the ORER does not give specific information as to
number of compartments. The cars and car numbers are listed, and
Pounds Capacity, but that's it. Nothing in the exceptions.
I am told there is another register of private/leased cars.
Yes, it's the tank car tariff. They are pretty darn scarce, but they do exist. I'm not aware of whether any of the major railroad archives own one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Models / Kits for Sale

golden1014
 

Gentlemen,

I need to pare down my model collection and am putting
up the following items for sale. Please contact me
**off-list** at Golden1014@yahoo.com if you're
interested in anything. I do not intend to rip off my
modeling friends, so the first reasonable offer will
be accepted on all models/kits. I'm happy to split
shipping costs with you as well.

You may view photos of the completed models with a
brief description at the following website:

http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/inbox&page=all

ACL 23478. Branchline 40� box car with correct ends,
Kadee running board, extra details, Kadee PRR trucks
and #58 couplers. Custom painted with Microscale
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VGN 63266. Kadee PS-1 8' Door VGN box car, stock,
slightly weathered.

ACL 854. Rivarrossi heavyweight baggage car custom
painted as ACL 854. Kadee couplers, Kadee 36"
wheelsets, and diaphragms included. Champ decals.

RF&P 856. Rivarossi corrugated Budd-type coach custom
painted with ACL-SAL HS decals. Correct IHC trucks
with 36" metal wheelsets, Kadee #5 couplers. Green
tinted windows with window shades.

C&O 51332. Atlas offset-side two-bay hopper with many
additional details added, extra weight, Walthers
sprung ARA trucks, Kadee #58 couplers and 33"
wheelsets, Champ decals.

Central of Georgia F-3A #902. Stewart shell superbly
custom painted and detailed by Bob Harpe of Savannah,
GA. This engine runs on a new Intermountain chassis
that's DCC ready.

Central of Georgia F-3A #904. Stewart shell superbly
custom painted and detailed by Bob Harpe of Savannah,
GA. This engine runs on an older Stewart Kato chassis
that is not DCC ready.

CRR 47125. Atlas offset-side hopper with some
aftermarket details added, Kadee #5 couplers, Walthers
sprung ARA trucks with Kadee 33" wheelsets. Factory
paint, but number changed from original Atlas run.

C&O 133689. Like C&O 51332, this is an Atlas
offset-side two-bay hopper with many additional
details added, extra weight, Walthers sprung ARA
trucks, Kadee #58 couplers and 33" wheelsets, Champ
decals.

PRR 860239 is a Bowser gondola with many custom
details added. No cut bars. Kadee PRR trucks. Includes
pipe load. Custom painted with Champ decals. Kadee #58
couplers.

SAL 47302 is an Athearn 50' flat car, custom painted
with Champ decals. Many additional detail parts added,
along with an AMB wood deck. Additional lead weight
added. Walthers sprung ARA trucks with Kadee 33"
wheelsets. Kadee #5 couplers.

REA 1245 is a Sunshine models car. Minimum underframe
has been modeled, but car includes Kadee #5 couplers
and Precision Scale brass trucks with 36" metal
wheelsets.

Erie 94223 is an Accurail model custom painted with
Champ decals. Intermountain Andrews trucks, Kadee #58
couplers, some aftermarket details added.

SRR 23252 is a Branchline 40' box car. Bowser ARA
trucks with Kadee 33" wheelsets, Kadee #78 couplers,
Kadee roofwalk, and many other aftermarket detail
parts added. This car has been heavily weathered.

Kit: ECW 70T NYC version covered hopper, #2020. The
box is opened but everything is intact and new. I�ve
also added a few parts from other kits to increase
detail. This is not a very highly detailed kit, so
I'll throw this one in for free if you'd like to have
something else.

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kit #64.5. Box opened but kit is new, unwrapped.

Kit: Tichy ACL bulkhead flat car; box opened but
otherwise everything is new.

Other Items:

5 NJ International twin coil switch machines. Three
are new in the box, two are used but working with no
box.

AMB ACL Depot kit #130, new, unopened.

Box of spare parts, including a few Kilgore Andrews
and Intermountain Andrews truck sideframes, a few
Bowser ARA sideframes, about two dozen P2K metal
wheelsets, about seven or eight pr. of other mfr.
wheelsets from a variety of makers, about 15 pair of
Kadee #5 couplers, and assorted running boards and
parts sprues from various freight car kits. This is
basically part of my scrap parts box that I don�t
anticipate using any time soon.

Thanks!

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL





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Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Brian Carlson
 

Wow, this generated more discussion than I expected. I happen to have
the Walthers car handy and it is a wood sided car (not that that
means it is correct) and the reporting marks are GBCX 107. Other data
includes
CAPY 7000 lbs
LD LMT 80500 lbs
WT 51500 E.R. 11-33
Rebuilt 8-33 (to the right of the above data)

It Sides are painted white, ends and roof brown, Lettering on the
sides is black with a red GENESEE and red cicle around a black circle
on the right side.

Maybe someone can find it in a 30's ORER.

The 1960 and later Genesee and Wyoming cars are from a totally
different railroad.

Keep in mind this is an earlier T-M car from and era when Walthers
didn't really care about protype correctness.

Brian carlson
Cheektowaga NY

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Roger Hinman <rhinman@r...> wrote:
MDT leased a small amount of wood cars to Genesee Brewing co in
1935-36
under the GBCX reporting marks


Roger H.
On Nov 6, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Tim Gilbert wrote:


John,


Re: Swift Reefers in Southern Ontario

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Tim and Rich, isn't it fair to ass u me that some
of those Canadians ate some beef too? Wouldn't
some Swift reefers have been consigned to
destinations in Southern Ontario?

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gilbert [mailto:tgilbert@sunlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 8:23 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Jeff Lodge
Subject: [STMFC] re: Swift Reefers in Southern
Ontario


Rich Chrysler asked:

Can anybody tell me if Swift reefers could be
seen in
Southern Ontario in the late 1940's?

Rich,

I have been under the impression that meat
reefers were
routed GTW-CN to St. Albans or Island Pond VT
for
distribution at sundry meat cold storage plants
in Northern
New England. In a 1990 George Melvin article in
MODEL
RAILROADING, meat reefers were delivered to the
MEC by the CN
at North Yarmouth ME in the 1960's.

In 1955, Swift had 15 cold storage plants served
by the B&M.
So, adding two and two together to make five, I
would assume
that Swift reefers were among those routed
GTW-CN to northern
New England.

Confirmation of this, however, may come from
Jeff Lodge who
is in the process of parsing all the northbound
cars
dispatched by the CV from White River Jct. VT
during the
month of September 1955. If there are empty SRLX
reefers in
this report, this would confirm that SRLX
reefers were routed
via the CN at least in 1955. If there were
northbound loaded
SRLX reefers out of WRJ-CV, then the SRLX
reefers were not
routed via Canada north of Lake Ontario.

I have no means to make an educated guess as to
whether some
SRLX reefers were routed through southern
Ontario for
delivery at Niagara Falls or Buffalo.

Hope this helps, Tim Gilbert







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Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

MDT leased a small amount of wood cars to Genesee Brewing co in 1935-36 under the GBCX reporting marks


Roger H.

On Nov 6, 2004, at 4:34 PM, Tim Gilbert wrote:


John,

What's the reporting mark of this circa 1930's Genesee reefer?

Tim Gilbert

John & Sue Bartolotto wrote:

Tony,



I'm not sure. I'm modeling the NYC circa 1930's Rochester, NY area
and was
intrigued about this Genesee reefer on a beer reefer car web site.
Any help
would be appreciated.



John



-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson [mailto:thompson@signaturepress.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:59 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer



Do we know if there is any authenticity at all of this Genesee
scheme?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: N scale Fowler decals (Kaslo Shops)

Earl Tuson
 

However, decals were not supplied, and neither he nor I have been
able to find any. Decals for the Erie would be another
possibility, but I can't find those either! Does anybody know of
a source for any of these?
CDS Lettering.

Earl Tuson


Fw: Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Jeff English
 

First of all, I would be <extremely> surprised if there ever was the
slightest connection between the Genesee & Wyoming RR and the
Genesee brewery. Secondly, if there is an ORER listing that
spells "Genesee" with two "s"'s, it is a <typo> that misrepresents
the word's spelling completely. I know of no legitimate regional
business entity that uses the Genesee name without spelling it
correctly.

Jeff English
Troy, New York (200 miles east of the Genesee brewery)

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, John R Gibson <gospeltrain1@j...>
wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John Bartolotto" <jsbart@p...>
wrote:

Anyone have any ideas where I can find an HO scale >Genesee
Brewing
Company reefer? I thought Walthers >produced one years ago, but I
can't
find it.


John,

Is the spelling Genesee or Genessee since the 1968 OREO list a
Genessee &
Wyoming R.R.under the privet car owners with reporting marks of
GNW &
GNWR. There was no other information listed.

John R. ("Hoot") Gibson
Galatians 2:20
gospeltrain1@j...
McMinnville, Oregon.
AT&SF Steam 1930-1945 Era


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

John,

What's the reporting mark of this circa 1930's Genesee reefer?

Tim Gilbert

John & Sue Bartolotto wrote:

Tony,



I'm not sure. I'm modeling the NYC circa 1930's Rochester, NY area and was
intrigued about this Genesee reefer on a beer reefer car web site. Any help
would be appreciated.



John



-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson [mailto:thompson@signaturepress.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:59 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer



Do we know if there is any authenticity at all of this Genesee
scheme?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

John & Sue Bartolotto <jsbart@...>
 

John,



Its Genesee Brewing co. from Rochester N.Y.



John

-----Original Message-----
From: John R Gibson [mailto:gospeltrain1@juno.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:14 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [STMFC] Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John Bartolotto" <jsbart@p...> wrote:

Anyone have any ideas where I can find an HO scale >Genesee Brewing
Company reefer? I thought Walthers >produced one years ago, but I can't
find it.


John,

Is the spelling Genesee or Genessee since the 1968 OREO list a Genessee &
Wyoming R.R.under the privet car owners with reporting marks of GNW &
GNWR. There was no other information listed.

John R. ("Hoot") Gibson
Galatians 2:20
gospeltrain1@juno.com
McMinnville, Oregon.
AT&SF Steam 1930-1945 Era








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Fw: Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

John R Gibson <gospeltrain1@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "John Bartolotto" <jsbart@p...> wrote:

Anyone have any ideas where I can find an HO scale >Genesee Brewing
Company reefer? I thought Walthers >produced one years ago, but I can't
find it.


John,

Is the spelling Genesee or Genessee since the 1968 OREO list a Genessee &
Wyoming R.R.under the privet car owners with reporting marks of GNW &
GNWR. There was no other information listed.

John R. ("Hoot") Gibson
Galatians 2:20
gospeltrain1@juno.com
McMinnville, Oregon.
AT&SF Steam 1930-1945 Era


Multi Compartment Tank Cars

jstyron <jstyron@...>
 

I was doing some research on tank cars used in wine service today,
and discovered that the ORER does not give specific information as to
number of compartments. The cars and car numbers are listed, and
Pounds Capacity, but that's it. Nothing in the exceptions.
I am told there is another register of private/leased cars. Does
anyone know of such a list, or a way I could get more specific
information on multi compartment wine cars owned by GATX, SHPX, CDLX,
etc. How would a customer order cars for a particular purpose from
the private car companies? Did they hand out their own internal
registers? I'm talking about early to mid fifties, here. Thanks in
advance.
-Jay Styron


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

John & Sue Bartolotto <jsbart@...>
 

Tony,



I'm not sure. I'm modeling the NYC circa 1930's Rochester, NY area and was
intrigued about this Genesee reefer on a beer reefer car web site. Any help
would be appreciated.



John

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thompson [mailto:thompson@signaturepress.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 7:59 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer



Do we know if there is any authenticity at all of this Genesee
scheme?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
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Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

Anthony Thompson wrote:

Do we know if there is any authenticity at all of this Genesee
scheme?
The November 1925, January 1938, April 1949 & April 1955 ORER's did not list any Genesee Beer reefers. Were the reefers owned by a private car line who leased reefers to Genesee? I doubt that because Genny was & is somewhat a local beer having limited distribution.

Tim Gilbert


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Do we know if there is any authenticity at all of this Genesee scheme?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Genesee Brewing Company Reefer

John & Sue Bartolotto <jsbart@...>
 

Brian,



Thanks! I knew I wasn't imagining things. Any idea where I can get one or
find the decals for it? I intend on modeling it in Z scale.



John

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