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Re: ERDX Refreigator cars

Brian Carlson
 

Ron, can you more it to the files section, it should be bigger.
Brian Carlson

rxensen <rxensen@...> wrote:

Some time ago there was interest in ERDX cars.
I found my slide taken June 1964 near Carlisle PA.
I have posted it in the photo section under ERDX 10031.
Ron Christensen




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Re: Quad hopper ID

rwitt_2000 <rmwitt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Montford Switzer" <ZOE@I...> wrote:
Tony, David and list:

The one located at the stone quarry between Monon and Francesville,
IN, with the bogus MONON lettering may or may not be of steel
construction.
That one bares closer inspection.

Mont Switzer
Mont and others,

I have inspected the one at the quarry in Indiana and it is the
aluminum version of these cars. It is very obvious upon examining the
cracks in the body bolsters.

Bob Witt


Re: ERDX Refreigator cars

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

I just love the photo section. That thing looks like half Z scale!

Sigh.
--

Brian Ehni

From: rxensen <rxensen@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:05:22 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] ERDX Refreigator cars



Some time ago there was interest in ERDX cars.
I found my slide taken June 1964 near Carlisle PA.
I have posted it in the photo section under ERDX 10031.
Ron Christensen


Re: N&W stock cars

James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
 

N&W 33000-33249, Class SK:
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2780.jpeg
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2867.jpeg
These show class SK after they were rebuilt with Z-bar sides and
renumbered in the early 1950s.

N&W 29000-29749 was also Class SK, but these photos show a "missing"
diagonal to the left of the door.
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2777.jpeg
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2778.jpeg
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2779.jpeg
These show class SK as converted from class BL 1-1/2 door box cars in
the mid and late 1930s. The "missing" diagonal is where the half door was
originally located. The solid door on 29000 was carried over from the BL,
but was quickly replaced with a slatted door.

interior view:
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/NS2774.jpeg
BL:
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/F1/NS3273.JPG

David Thompson


Re: N&W stock cars

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 


ERDX Refreigator cars

ron christensen
 

Some time ago there was interest in ERDX cars.
I found my slide taken June 1964 near Carlisle PA.
I have posted it in the photo section under ERDX 10031.
Ron Christensen


N&W stock cars

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Richard Hendrickson
 

Ted Culotta writes:

I was building this kit and was going to decorate it for the NKP.
However, the photo that I have of one of the NKP cars built in 1940
shows that they had round corner ends with W-section corner posts. The
F&C kit has square corner posts. Does anyone know if the PM or WLE
cars built in 1940 with 10 rib ends has square or W-section corner
posts on the ends?
I have two photos of WLE 26000 series cars showing square cornered ten rib
ends.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: M&StL green

Marty McGuirk <mac@...>
 

A and Tony,

Haven't you ever heard of "Don't ask, don't tell . . ."

Maybe Doctor Thompson has been in the Golden State a little toooo long
. . . .

(Better stop now . . . )

Marty


On Saturday, November 20, 2004, at 12:07 PM, armand premo wrote:

Gotcha.LOLROF.A
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Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: M&StL green



Clark Propst wrote:
Sorry Marty, I'm not interested in the green or red cars. They have
been done before. Only interested in the 54000's in bcr. Remember
I'm
the guy buying them. Would you like me to pole the M&StL yahoo
group?

       Wow! Am I glad I'm not in that group! That's going to HURT!

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The Keystone Modeler - November 2004

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The November issue of TKM is online at
http://home.comcast.net/~abbuchan1/TKM_No._16_11-04_PDF.pdf

Articles of interest include:

- Modeling PRR Class G31 (and sublcasses) and G35 Gons
- Class XL Camp Car Conversions (Kitchen & Dining Cars)
- PRR Model Photos from the Seattle National


Ben Hom


Re: M&StL green

Marty McGuirk <mac@...>
 

Clark,

I'm confused -- when I said "red" I meant " Boxcar Red" with the white
Peoria Gateway slanted lettering. I was under the impression that was
the car you're most interested in.

Was I wrong?

Marty
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On Saturday, November 20, 2004, at 07:22 AM, rockroll50401 wrote:


--- In STMFC@..., Marty McGuirk <mac@i...> wrote:
Clark,

Thanks for the feedback.

My intention is to do four car numbers -- on kits -- on our 1937
AAR
boxcar -- two of them in red and two in green.

If you send me the exact car numbers made on the BLT and RC kits I
will
do my best not to duplicate the numbers they did.

These will be very limited runs (I don't want to end up with an
inventory problem again), produced almost to dealer orders with
just a
little over.

Marty
Sorry Marty, I'm not interested in the green or red cars. They have
been done before. Only interested in the 54000's in bcr. Remember I'm
the guy buying them. Would you like me to pole the M&StL yahoo group?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa



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Re: M&StL green

Marty McGuirk <mac@...>
 

Jim,

Yes, the car is "BCR" -- not the brighter red used later with the large
white "M&STL" lettering.

Marty


On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 08:21 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


Marty, am I right to assume by "red" you mean "box car red" and
not the 1957 bright red? IMWX did bright red cars (54000 series)
and I have one of the green Red Caboose C&NWHS cars -- 53044. But
I missed out on the box car red Red Caboose car (catalog #8024-x)
and would like to get one of those too.


Will you give us a heads up on when these will be in production so I
can
have my hobby shop place an order?

Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty McGuirk" <mac@...>

My intention is to do four car numbers -- on kits -- on our 1937 AAR
boxcar -- two of them in red and two in green.

If you send me the exact car numbers made on the BLT and RC kits I
will
do my best not to duplicate the numbers they did.

Marty

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Re: M&StL green

Marty McGuirk <mac@...>
 

Jim,

Oursales people are letting dealers know about the kits this week.

They are scheduled to be released and shipped (along with the CP
"IofME" PS-1) with our December releases.
Marty


On Friday, November 19, 2004, at 06:44 PM, James F. Brewer wrote:

Marty,

Will you give us a heads up on when these will be in production so I
can
have my hobby shop place an order?

Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: M&StL green



Clark,

Thanks for the feedback.

My intention is to do four car numbers -- on kits -- on our 1937 AAR
boxcar -- two of them in red and two in green.

If you send me the exact car numbers made on the BLT and RC kits I
will
do my best not to duplicate the numbers they did.

These will be very limited runs (I don't want to end up with an
inventory problem again), produced almost to dealer orders with just
a
little over.

Marty






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Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Tim O'Connor
 

I never thought I'd see the day that I would have a resin kit
without a prototype. Thank you both for the info.
Regards, Ted Culotta
Ted, talking to people at Naperville I have come to realize that
MANY resin kits have no prototype, depending on what features you
are interested in. Many Sunshine kits have incorrect doors, ends,
underframes, and even car widths. If you want a lesson in this it
pays to visit Byron Rose's workshop and look at his couple dozen
corrected resin models. They are unpainted so you can see all of
the changes he's made -- to both Sunshines and Westerfields.

I think Stan sells both styles of Pullman end as separate parts,
so you can at least salvage your kit...

Tim O.


Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Nov 21, 2004, at 9:23 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Ted, I thought NKP was the exception to the kit. The UP and CGW
cars clearly had square corner ends.

>I was building this kit and was going to decorate it for the NKP.Β 
>However, the photo that I have of one of the NKP cars built in 1940
>shows that they had round corner ends with W-section corner posts.Β 
The
>F&C kit has square corner posts.Β  Does anyone know if the PM or WLE
>cars built in 1940 with 10 rib ends has square or W-section corner
>posts on the ends?Β  I am beginning to think that the kit may not
have a
>prototype, which is a rarity for resin.
Yes, all of the cars built in 1938 had square cornered ends. The 1938
cars only had nine corrugations in the ends, excluding them as
prospects for the ten corrugation end kit (the CGW and UP are
reproduced by the nine rib end kit). What I was asking is whether the
ten corrugation end cars built in 1940, specifically the PM and WLE,
had square or round corner ends. It appears based upon Brian Carlson's
info that the WLE has also had round corner ends, making it unlikely
that the PM would have had square corner ends. I never thought I'd see
the day that I would have a resin kit without a prototype. Thank you
both for the info.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


Re: Quad hopper ID

Montford Switzer <ZOE@...>
 

Tony, David and list:

Curiosity got the best of me Saturday when I was passing through
Noblesville, IN so I took a good look at the car in question -- in the
rain. It is definitely a steel car complete with a coat of red primer
followed by aluminum paint.

The one located at the stone quarry between Monon and Francesville, IN,
with the bogus MONON lettering may or may not be of steel construction.
That one bares closer inspection.

Mont Switzer

David Thompson wrote:
If the car is actually from Alcoa, it might be one of the 15 steel
clamshell quad hoppers built as counterparts to the ten aluminum
quads,
all by Canton in late 1931. The end construction of the car in
question
could determine if it is one of those 15, or simply an H21 or H25
clone
or something else.
Excellent point, David, and the car would be nearly as
interesting in that case as if it were aluminum.

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Re: More old photos

Roger Miener <Roger.Miener@...>
 

Charles Etheredge says ...

Richard, how about my all-time favorite, the Staggerwing!
Oh dear Charles, that one? The Staggerwing Beechcraft? Yes, it is a
STMFC era airplane. And, it is indeed an awesome airplane, but it is
also one that leaks oil into the drip pan like there is no tomorrow!

In other words, the Beechcraft Staggerwing leaks oil profusely!

Cessna produced (Cessna 195) a very nice piece of work about the same
time. It did not leak oil quite so bad.

Whatever -- In either event - the Staggerwing and the Cessna 195 - ,
in each case the sound is round (the soothing rumble of a radial
engine) - something that Richard Hendrickson's little rag wing tail
dragger can't do.

However, sound or no - it (Richard's tail dragger) sure is fun to fly.
Rogue River Country.

Richard lives in Ashland, Oregon. Ashland, Oregon - well, I tell you
what. It is a really neat place for an airport and a nice place to
hanger a rag wing tail dragger.

Roger Miener
(who is not as young as Richard Hendrickson would suggest)
at Tacoma Wa

PS Richard, how about the Howard DGA (Damn Good Airplane), otherwise
known as the aluminum overcast. Ever see one of them? Howard in
airplanes was like Overland Models in model railroad circles. In each
case, there were not very many of them built.


Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Brian Carlson
 

I forgot to say that since the PM, NKP, and WLE all were members of the Advisory Mechanical Committee they probably had the same ends.

Also the notes in the article I have says both the NKP and WLE cars had Equipco hand brakes.

Brian Carlson

Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Ted, looking at the two pictures I have, I think I agree with Tim, they look like W-corners. The two pictures I have are NKP 20616 (former WLE) taken in 1956 in San Diego, and WLE 26016 in 1944 (Photo is not dated, but last reweighed on 11-1943.)

FYI in April of 1959 started to convert these to TOFC cars.

Brian Carlson

Tim O'Connor wrote:

Ted, I thought NKP was the exception to the kit. The UP and CGW
cars clearly had square corner ends.


I was building this kit and was going to decorate it for the NKP.
However, the photo that I have of one of the NKP cars built in 1940
shows that they had round corner ends with W-section corner posts. The
F&C kit has square corner posts. Does anyone know if the PM or WLE
cars built in 1940 with 10 rib ends has square or W-section corner
posts on the ends? I am beginning to think that the kit may not have a
prototype, which is a rarity for resin.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


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Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Brian Carlson
 

Ted, looking at the two pictures I have, I think I agree with Tim, they look like W-corners. The two pictures I have are NKP 20616 (former WLE) taken in 1956 in San Diego, and WLE 26016 in 1944 (Photo is not dated, but last reweighed on 11-1943.)

FYI in April of 1959 started to convert these to TOFC cars.

Brian Carlson

Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Ted, I thought NKP was the exception to the kit. The UP and CGW
cars clearly had square corner ends.


I was building this kit and was going to decorate it for the NKP.
However, the photo that I have of one of the NKP cars built in 1940
shows that they had round corner ends with W-section corner posts. The
F&C kit has square corner posts. Does anyone know if the PM or WLE
cars built in 1940 with 10 rib ends has square or W-section corner
posts on the ends? I am beginning to think that the kit may not have a
prototype, which is a rarity for resin.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


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Re: F&C PS-0 ten rib end kit

Tim O'Connor
 

Ted, I thought NKP was the exception to the kit. The UP and CGW
cars clearly had square corner ends.

I was building this kit and was going to decorate it for the NKP.
However, the photo that I have of one of the NKP cars built in 1940
shows that they had round corner ends with W-section corner posts. The
F&C kit has square corner posts. Does anyone know if the PM or WLE
cars built in 1940 with 10 rib ends has square or W-section corner
posts on the ends? I am beginning to think that the kit may not have a
prototype, which is a rarity for resin.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

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