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Reweigh locations

CBarkan@...
 

Ben,

I agree with you about what you say below, but at least on the B&O it seems
unusual, if not rare, to see a car stenciled with a reweigh location other
than one of the major shops or class yards. Like the PRR, the B&O also had a
very long list of station initials for this but I hardly ever see a photo of a
car with a reweigh location other than one of the big places such as Brunswick,
MD (BW), Washington, IN (WA), Keyser, WV (KY) and a few others. I don't know
how representative the B&O's practices are but I suspect they are fairly
typical. Some of this is probably related to traffic volume, busy places tended
to do most of reweighing. Also, the RR probably had designated places where it
preferred to reweigh cars. So the real question regarding Binghamton, NY on
the Erie is, was it one of those locations for the Erie, irrespective of its
lack of car repair activity there? If Chuck Yungkurth is listening , I bet he
knows.

Chris Barkan

In a message dated 12/25/04 5:45:30 PM, b.hom@... writes:

<< Scuyler, thanks for the correction; however, your statement "there was
little to absolutely no work on freight cars done in
Binghamton on the ERIE" perpetuates a common myth about reweigh stencils -
that these represent only locations that have major car shops. While it's
true that cars require reweighing after a trip through the car shop, you
don't need a car shop to reweigh freight cars - only a set of scales. For
example, if you go through this list of PRR track scales, you'll see some
pretty out of the way places that do little to absolutely no work on freight
cars: >>


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Re: Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

Brian Carlson
 

I hope Ted is serious, since I pre-ordered a set of these cars from my dealer since Trix was offering two of them in schemes from Niagara Falls, and I thought they would be really neat on the layout, providing local flavor. However based on the response so far I am sorry I pre-ordered them. I hope to pick mine up next week.

Ted, let us know how your modifications go.

Brian Carlson

Cheektowaga NY.



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Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
"Something else you won't get right is that "BH" isn't Binghamton, spelled
right
or not. There was little to absolutely no work on freight cars done in
Binghamton on the ERIE."

Scuyler, thanks for the correction; however, your statement "there was
little to absolutely no work on freight cars done in
Binghamton on the ERIE" perpetuates a common myth about reweigh stencils -
that these represent only locations that have major car shops. While it's
true that cars require reweighing after a trip through the car shop, you
don't need a car shop to reweigh freight cars - only a set of scales. For
example, if you go through this list of PRR track scales, you'll see some
pretty out of the way places that do little to absolutely no work on freight
cars:
http://prr.railfan.net/lists/track_scales_1923.html

For those who are still unclear about this, this date is when the car was
REWEIGHED, not necessarily when it was REPAINTED, REBUILT, or SHOPPED. It
may provide an important clue towards the date when the latter took place,
but can not be taken as gospel as a car may be reweighed without any of
those events taking place.


Ben Hom


Re: Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson
<rhendrickson@o...> wrote "....they are not only grotesquely
inaccurate and badly executed but also absurdly overpriced."

Other than that is there anything else wrong with them?

I wonder how many cars they have sold and how many they expected to
sell?

If a 1000 cars is a big resin run it's likely that we freight car
enthusiasts aren't going to keep T/M in business.

How many $30+ HO RTR freight cars are sold? I think they must be the
new brass - a few collectors buy a lot of the cars. I don't doubt
that there are a few men who have the built up IM cars and all of
the Kadee cars.

Ed


Re: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

Walter M. Clark
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee"
<schuyler.larrabee@v...> wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brock [mailto:brockm@b...]
Thanks for being members and thanks for making my
job easy.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner

You . .

Are thanking US?

Let's get it right: Thank YOU, Mike.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

SGL
I agree. Three years ago (when I found this group) I was content that
everything Athearn and MDC made was prototypically correct. Now I can
even calculate what the earliest date for re-weighing is for my RR.

Thanks, Mike, and everyone else, and Merry Christmas and a Happy New
Year to all.

Walter M. Clark
Time stopped in November 1941
Riverside, California


Re: Dates K brakes and Andrews trucks banned from interchange

Richard Hendrickson
 

In response to Guy Wilber's post, I'll second Tony T's "welcome back" and
season's greetiongs. Godd to hear from you Guy. And I'll add a question:
Wherinell is Earthquake Faults, Nevada? Not to be found on my Nevada map.
(one possible answer, of course, is that earthquake faults are to be found
everywhere in Nevada, so maybe Guy is just pulling our collective legs.)


Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

I wrote, re Ted Culotta's post:

I don't doubt that you're up to the challenge, Ted, but the
question is - is it worth all that effort? Especially to
rework a model that . . .
To which Schuyler Larrabee responded:

Can't you see Ted's cheek pushed wayyyyyyyy out by his tongue?
Schuyler, I know Ted pretty well and I think he's serious.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Culotta [mailto:tculotta@...]

On Dec 25, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:

BH = Binghampton, NY
You native West Coasters will never get this one right.
Something else you won't get right is that "BH" isn't Binghamton, spelled right
or not. There was little to absolutely no work on freight cars done in
Binghamton on the ERIE.

BH = Brier Hill

Which is in Cleveland. And that IS the spelling of Brier, not Briar.

Please correct your notes.

SGL
Binghamton native.


Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Ted

SGL
Bingham(no p)ton native.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Culotta [mailto:tculotta@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 4:52 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help


On Dec 25, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:

BH = Binghampton, NY
You native West Coasters will never get this one right. The
Hamptons are summer home communities on eastern Long Island.
Binghamton (no
't') is a small city in "upstate" New York. Upstate is in
quotations because anyone who actually lives in upstate NY
knows that upstate is really places like Syracuse, Utica,
Buffalo, Rochester, etc. People from Manhattan think that
upstate begins somewhere around Bronxville.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

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Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 25, 2004, at 12:39 PM, Richard Hendrickson wrote:

BH = Binghampton, NY
You native West Coasters will never get this one right. The Hamptons are summer home communities on eastern Long Island. Binghamton (no 't') is a small city in "upstate" New York. Upstate is in quotations because anyone who actually lives in upstate NY knows that upstate is really places like Syracuse, Utica, Buffalo, Rochester, etc. People from Manhattan think that upstate begins somewhere around Bronxville.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hendrickson [mailto:rhendrickson@...]

I don't doubt that you're up to the challenge, Ted, but the
question is - is it worth all that effort? Especially to
rework a model that . . .

Richard,

Can't you see Ted's cheek pushed wayyyyyyyy out by his tongue?

8^)

SGL


Re: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Brock [mailto:brockm@...]
Thanks for being members and thanks for making my
job easy.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner

You . .

Are thanking US?

Let's get it right: Thank YOU, Mike.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

SGL


Re: Dates K brakes and Andrews trucks banned from interchange

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Guy Wilber wrote:
1) 1926; Type AB brake sytems begin testing.

The ARA began the brake tests in 1925 at Purdue's Test Lab. The use of the
terminology "AB" was not used until the WESTINGHOUSE FC-3a design was fully
developed, tested and approved for application during 1932. . .
Welcome "back," Guy. Long time no read, or something like that. Nice to hear from you, and Happy Holidays.

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Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Richard Hendrickson
 

Dean Payne asked:
"Does anybody know the location symbol for Kent, Ohio? Or, lacking that,
any other Erie reweigh station symbols from the period (mid-late
30's) would do."
Ben Hom responded:

I don't have one for Kent OH, but here's what I do have:

BH = Binghamton NY
DO = Dunmore PA
PJ = Port Jervis NY
MDV = Meadville PA

Other documented reweigh symbols follow, though these need to be identified:

HE
CD
EB
KY
SO
CH
EE
Here's what I have for Erie reweight station symbols:

BH = Binghampton, NY CD = Cleveland CX = Croxton, NJ DO = Dunmore, PA
EB = East Buffalo HD = Hammond, IN HL = Hornell, NY MDV =
Meadville, PA PJ = Port Jervis, NY. I'd like to know what the other
symbols Ben cites represented.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Ted Culotta writes:

First, I have not yet checked the tank dimensions yet, so this is
contingent upon those being workable. Second, for those of you who
have seen "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" this all brings to mind the
scene where Spiccoli (Sean Penn) totals Forrest Whittaker's car and
says "My dad's a TV repair man. He has the ultimate set of tools. I
can fix it." (the fact that Sean Penn and Forrest Whittaker were ever
in something like this proves that everyone has to start somewhere, but
that's a different topic.) Anyway, having completely stripped the car
so that all of the parts are separated, I think "I can fix it". There
are two main things to be done: file to inside of the ends of the tank
to create a much finer flange and then build up the circumference of
the tank ends to make up for this difference and to build an entirely
new frame. The small task is then to add entirely new details such as
brakes, hand holds, ladders, etc. However, I am up for the challenge!
I don't doubt that you're up to the challenge, Ted, but the question is -
is it worth all that effort? Especially to rework a model that costs
upwards of $30 to start with? I haven't given up on the possibility of
getting another mfr. to produce really good models of these cars; I don't
consider the M/T models to be competitive in the North American market in
any realistic sense, since they are not only grotesquely inaccurate and
badly executed but also absurdly overpriced.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Correct trucks for GN #2540 express boxcars?

Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...>
 

Stefan Lerch� asked:
"I have this car in dark green post-war scheme with the colored goat
herald from Intermountain and would like to add the correct trucks for
this class. Any ideas?"

These cars had ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with Timken roller bearings. See
photo of GN 2538 on page 10 of RPCyc Vol 8. AFAIK, there isn't an exact
match in HO. The MDC Hyatt roller bearing truck is one option for a
stand-in.


"Which class of trucks do the IM trucks that come in their boxcar kits
actually represent?"

Barber S-2.

Mele Kalikimaka!


Ben Hom


Re: Erie "Fowler" box car lettering help

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 25, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:

Dean Payne asked:
"Does anybody know the location symbol for Kent, Ohio? 
"KE"

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Trix/Marklin Chlorine tank cars

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

First, I have not yet checked the tank dimensions yet, so this is contingent upon those being workable. Second, for those of you who have seen "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" this all brings to mind the scene where Spiccoli (Sean Penn) totals Forrest Whittaker's car and says "My dad's a TV repair man. He has the ultimate set of tools. I can fix it." (the fact that Sean Penn and Forrest Whittaker were ever in something like this proves that everyone has to start somewhere, but that's a different topic.) Anyway, having completely stripped the car so that all of the parts are separated, I think "I can fix it". There are two main things to be done: file to inside of the ends of the tank to create a much finer flange and then build up the circumference of the tank ends to make up for this difference and to build an entirely new frame. The small task is then to add entirely new details such as brakes, hand holds, ladders, etc. However, I am up for the challenge!

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912

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