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Photos picked up today

Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
 

Since I couldn't make it to CB, I made it to the local train show and picked up some photos taken in 1959. What is amazing is that there was someone who was taking photos of freight equipment in West Oakland in 1959 - beyond the unusual (or at least, beyond the diesels, steam, Key system, passenger stuff, etc. etc.). So I picked up some 70 photos of freight cars (and other things) all dating to 1959 most taken in West Oakland in 1959. They all aren't great photos, but the subjects make up for it.

I posted two today, the New Haven and the Southern cars. In addition, there are cars from the Ann Arbor,SP, TNO, SP, WP, Milw (Rib side),N&W, SP&S, Swift, MobilGas, A&EC,S&A, ATSF,BCK,CNW,CofG,Erie, Wilson, D&H,GN,D&M, B&LE, D&SL, DT&I , M&W, L&N - a nice variety. I'll be posting more if there is interest as I get time to scan them. Most are boxes, some reefers, a couple tanks.

The guy had a light leak in the shutter, but most of the photos still turned out ok. The other photos (not of freight cars) were of WP diesels, WP MOW, SP cabooses, SP MOW and the like. Tony, if you're interested in the caboose photos, let me know off list, and I'll send scans to you.
Re: New Haven 45006

Eugene Deimling <gene48@...>
 

Bob:
I removed three of my photos in the files section so there is nearly a meg.


Gene Deimling

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Webber [mailto:rswebber@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:06 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Haven 45006


I would, but not a member

At 01:59 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

Try the files section of the photo STMFC group.
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Brian Ehni


From: Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:59:03 -0600
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Haven 45006


At 01:55 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

I thought there was also a thread on State of Maine cars - I loaded a
New
Haven car, built 6-1953, shown 9-16-1959 - New Haven 45006
Had to add it to the Photo section as the file section is out of space





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Re: New Haven 45006

Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
 

I would, but not a member

At 01:59 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

Try the files section of the photo STMFC group.
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Brian Ehni


From: Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:59:03 -0600
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Haven 45006


At 01:55 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

I thought there was also a thread on State of Maine cars - I loaded a New
Haven car, built 6-1953, shown 9-16-1959 - New Haven 45006
Had to add it to the Photo section as the file section is out of space





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Re: New Haven 45006

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

Try the files section of the photo STMFC group.
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Brian Ehni

From: Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:59:03 -0600
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Haven 45006


At 01:55 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

I thought there was also a thread on State of Maine cars - I loaded a New
Haven car, built 6-1953, shown 9-16-1959 - New Haven 45006
Had to add it to the Photo section as the file section is out of space





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Re: New Haven 45006

Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
 

At 01:55 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

I thought there was also a thread on State of Maine cars - I loaded a New
Haven car, built 6-1953, shown 9-16-1959 - New Haven 45006
Had to add it to the Photo section as the file section is out of space
Re: New Haven 45006

Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
 

I thought there was also a thread on State of Maine cars - I loaded a New Haven car, built 6-1953, shown 9-16-1959 - New Haven 45006

At 01:47 PM 1/9/2005, you wrote:

I am in the process of uploading a photo of Southern 263365 dated
8-26-1959. It will be in the files area shortly.
Re: Seeking photos of Southern PS1 boxcars, series 23487-26486

Bob Webber <rswebber@...>
 

I am in the process of uploading a photo of Southern 263365 dated 8-26-1959. It will be in the files area shortly.

At 10:59 AM 1/9/2005, you wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for photos of some Southern 40' PS1 boxcars, series 23487-
26486, 3000 cars, built 1948. I understand that a builder's photo
appeared in the 1949 Car Builders Cyclopedia. If anyone could help
me out I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden
New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
group.

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Uploaded by : drgwm64 <rswebber@...>
Description : Southern 263365

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Re: SP PS-2 cov'd hoppers

Bill Kelly
 

George,
There is a builder's photo of 3675 posted in the "photos" section of the
TNO group at yahoogroups.
Later,
Bill Kelly





George Hollwedel wrote:


Does anyone know of an as built, or builders photo for the T&NO cars
listed below?

Ed Hawkins wrote:
Lee,
In short, the answer is a bunch.
T&NO 3675-3899, built 1-54, 2893 c.f., H-70-12
Re: Seeking photos of Southern PS1 boxcars, series 23487-26486

Tim O'Connor
 

That builder photo also was published in Model Railroading, July 1988.

I'm looking for photos of some Southern 40' PS1 boxcars, series 23487-
26486, 3000 cars, built 1948. I understand that a builder's photo
appeared in the 1949 Car Builders Cyclopedia. If anyone could help
me out I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden
Re: SP PS-2 cov'd hoppers

Ed Hawkins
 

On Saturday, January 8, 2005, at 03:18 PM, George Hollwedel wrote:

Does anyone know of an as built, or builders photo for the T&NO cars listed below?

Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:
Lee,
In short, the answer is a bunch.


T&NO 3675-3899, built 1-54, 2893 c.f., H-70-12
George,
Bob's Photo offers an excellent photo of T&NO 3774 taken Jan. 1, 1955.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
Re: SP PS-2 cov'd hoppers

George Hollwedel <georgeloop1338@...>
 

Thanks Ed, I wish I would have looked for it last month at Oklahoma City when he was there!
Tim O'Conner sent me a jpeg.

Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...> wrote:


On Saturday, January 8, 2005, at 03:18 PM, George Hollwedel wrote:

Does anyone know of an as built, or builders photo for the T&NO cars
listed below?

Ed Hawkins wrote:
Lee,
In short, the answer is a bunch.


T&NO 3675-3899, built 1-54, 2893 c.f., H-70-12
George,
Bob's Photo offers an excellent photo of T&NO 3774 taken Jan. 1, 1955.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins





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Seeking photos of Southern PS1 boxcars, series 23487-26486

Mark Heiden
 

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for photos of some Southern 40' PS1 boxcars, series 23487-
26486, 3000 cars, built 1948. I understand that a builder's photo
appeared in the 1949 Car Builders Cyclopedia. If anyone could help
me out I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden
Clover House

Bill Lane <billlane@...>
 

Hi All,

I have been asked to repost this to more of my train lists. It originally
was posted this morning on
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Railway_Decal_Express_Agency

So here goes:

Hi All,

Russ Clover wants to sell out NOW. I talked to him when I placed a large
"get it while I can" order a few months ago. His health is declining. They
are the only company the makes PRSL stuff in S Scale.

It is a wonderful company, but I think it will be a tough sell to a new
owner since the majority of the dry transfer sets are for the 1900s era.

If you have wanted to order from them I would not wait much longer. I am not
saying they are going out of business any time soon, but reread the first
line. If the company does get sold the set prices will most likely go up as
well.

http://www.cloverhouse.com There is no on line or even phone orders. All
orders are placed through the mail on their order form only. They ship
quickly though. Their catalog is a reference in itself.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29
http://www.pennsysmodels.com
The freight versions are currently in production

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957
Re: F&C Pennsy GR gon sits too low? Or couplers?

David J. Starr <dstarrboston@...>
 

Dean Payne wrote:
I just finished my F&C GR gon, and the couplers sit lowest I have ever seen. I used archbars to represent my early time period (pre-
WWII), and Walthers archbars at that. The couplers are McHenry scale couplers in Kadee boxes (I had a few left over...) Is this a matter of shimming the bolsters, or using different (offset head) couplers? I might do both... unless you think those trucks sit especially low... I don't want the car too sit too high above the wheels, unless that's the way it should be. This was a poor choice for a first resin kit, I have finished a few other resin kits since then, including F&C! Their instructions have improved since this kit, to be fair. Dean Payne
Low flying couplers are common enough. The right way to fix them is first to determine to proper height of the car itself. From protoype plans or photos find the distance from the sill to the rail heads. If the model is low, check the wheelsize and if that is OK, shim the body up to the proper height. Then check coupler height and use an offset coupler head if necessary.
That said, I don't usually go to that much trouble. The legacy Athearn cars all have low couplers and I routinely put a couple of #6 flat washers under the trucks to get a #5 (no offset) Kadee to ride at the proper height.


David Starr
Re: F&C Pennsy GR gon sits too low? Or couplers?

Brian Carlson
 

Dean, you may want to Check the PRRTHS TKM #4, 11-03 where Elden Gatwood covered modeling these cars in resin, while I couldn't really tell if he shimed his cars (At least one was the Sunshine model though) you make be able to with your car in hand.

Brian J carlson

Dean Payne <deanpayne@...> wrote:

I just finished my F&C GR gon, and the couplers sit lowest I have
ever seen. I used archbars to represent my early time period (pre-
WWII), and Walthers archbars at that. The couplers are McHenry
scale couplers in Kadee boxes (I had a few left over...) Is this a
matter of shimming the bolsters, or using different (offset head)
couplers? I might do both... unless you think those trucks sit
especially low... I don't want the car too sit too high above the
wheels, unless that's the way it should be.
This was a poor choice for a first resin kit, I have finished a few
other resin kits since then, including F&C! Their instructions have
improved since this kit, to be fair.
Dean Payne






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Re: BUILDING CRAFTSMAN KITS

Tim O'Connor
 

I have a one-piece G22 with a warped body (longitudinal twist - about
3/16" end to end). I know how to straighten flat parts; how does one
straighten bodies without flattening them?
Doug Brown
I straightened out an F&C gondola body by placing it on a flat piece
of glass with heavy weights on top and heating it to 150 degrees in
the oven and then letting it cool slowly. I was told you can heat the
bodies in water and get good results but I've never tried it. The F&C
castings were thick and I don't know if this will work with thinner,
closer to scale gondola bodies.

Tim O.
Re: BUILDING CRAFTSMAN KITS

Doug Brown <brown194@...>
 

I have a one-piece G22 with a warped body (longitudinal twist - about
3/16" end to end). I know how to straighten flat parts; how does one
straighten bodies without flattening them?

Doug Brown

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From: Brian Carlson [mailto:prrk41361@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:00 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] BUILDING CRAFTSMAN KITS


Frank, as a followup to Jack's message, a good Westerfield one piece
body kit to start with is a model of the PRR G22 gondola car. It was
the first one I built and went together real easy.

Brian Carlson

Jack Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
<<Can anyone recommend a good primer on building the newer resin or
urethane kits? Any suggestions for an easy first kit? I haven't
built anything for quite a while and am more familiar with the older
wood ones.

Thanks,

Frank>>

Frank,

A good place to start would be to go to Westerfield's site,
http://www.westerfield.biz , and order a one-piece body kit, along with
a
"how-to" video at a discounted price with the kit.

Jack Wyatt
Re: IM M&StL box cars

Brett Whelan
 

Thanks Gene Green, Tim, & Gene Deimling,

For your help on this

Brett Whelan
Australia.



--- cf5250 <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Gene Deimling wrote

... you can buy the lettering for this car from
CDS and
possibly Greg Komar.

Greg Komar produces white lettering set for the 1937
AAR
car, and a yellow lettering set for the postwar AAR
cars
with 10' inside height (series 4000-5298).

CDS produces a set with yellow lettering circa 1952,
but
I don't know whether the data corresponds to the
prewar,
or postwar, designs.

Tim O'Connor





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Re: BUILDING CRAFTSMAN KITS

Paul Lyons
 

A hair dryer on low heat and a little patience twisting and turning with ones
fingers.
Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA
156241 - 156260 of 193519