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Re: New Photos

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Bill,

I've encountered the same problem...message was that the photos were temporarily unavailable because the group had exceeded the file size limit.

Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD

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Subject: [STMFC] New Photos




I'm new to the Photo side of this list, so I need some help. I am
able to access older photos, but not those posted yesterday or
today. Am I missing something? Thanks,

Bill McClure
Richmond







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Re: Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Gary Laakso asks about Prototype Rails:



"Mike, what was the attendance this year? Just bodies, not bodies paying
attention."
I'll do a double check, but from our calculations Sat night it was 231. This did not include spouses helping dealers like Westerfield and F&C nor some assisting the operation of the modular layouts.

Mike Brock


Roof Identification

erickarlwill
 

Friends,

I've posted a photo of a Milw boxcar that I need help identifing the roof on. The
photo (from Bob's Photos) is called Milw Double Sheath Boxcar and was
taken in 1939 according to the caption.

I'm planning on modeling this car but need direction on the roof type and any
suggestions of stock/kitbashed roofs that may work for this car.

Thanks,

Eric


Re: Weights for freight cars?

Richard Hendrickson
 

Anyone know who this manufacturer is and what these
"heavy weight upgrade" products are?

http://www.walthers.com/exec/newproducts/cr/200501/Part
Tim, I sent for the mfrs. catalog, but found it of little interest because
their custom-fitted sheet lead weights for a wide variety of models are
IMHO way over-priced. I can get inexpensive sheet lead at my local
building materials store and cut my own weights in a matter of minutes, so
why should I pay someone else $3.00 per model to do it for me?

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


New Photos

vgnry <vgnry212@...>
 

I'm new to the Photo side of this list, so I need some help. I am
able to access older photos, but not those posted yesterday or
today. Am I missing something? Thanks,

Bill McClure
Richmond


splicing car bodies (was PRR ??3353)

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

I'd like to thank you Brian, Bruce and Ben, - great info making sense of a car I'd have trouble researching. (I'm one of those "everyone is a PRR modeller" modellers who never thought he'd need a PRR car). I can't say I'm too thrilled about the suggested kitbash to make the car though from two Red Caboose X29s. That sounds like a real pain. I guess the patch panels help to hide the work?

Here is a technique question. To raise the height of a car using two shorter car bodies, would the best approach be to mark level lines on both car bodies, cut them on the discard side of the line and then sand them ever so carefuly to the line? What would you use as the index or datum point before starting to draw that line on the car side? I expect in any event you'd need to use some filler somewhere long the seem. Would you do the sanding with a Tru Sander? It seems to me the surface would be to large for that.

Rob Kirkham


Re: Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?

Buck Dean
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@b...> wrote:
Bob Webber notes:

"I certainly hope that the renovation isn't accomplished by
someone with a
single first name like Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Dennis, Emily....

I agree more than you can know. I figure, incidentally, that if we
experience a tsunami here in 2005 it would have occurred at 9 AM on
Jan 7 when we opened registration.

Mike Brock

Hey, Mike, watch it. You get one..we get one ! Seriously, I had
a great time and thanks for the all the hard work. Especially
enjoyed catching back up with Chuck Hitchock after all these
years...gee he used to come over to see my sister when he was in
high school and ended up fiddling with the HO layout with me (at 6
years old) and my dad. We had a great time playing "remember when".

The clinics were great. The models..albeit mostly in a scale I'm
not familiar with anymore, were spectacular.

Thanks from my wife Deb and myself

Buck Dean
(O, Of course)
Jacksonville, FL


Re: Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

It all gets down to what level of detail a modeler is satisfied with. Until
a model comes out that is based on the actual MDT prototype, one has to kitbash
and make compromises. Both Stan, Richard and others have done models that look
good and many would be proud to own them. The prospect of those cars coming in resin is still alive and
was actively discussed this past weekend at Cocoa Beach

Roger Hinman

On Jan 10, 2005, at 7:26 PM, Beckert, Shawn wrote:


Yes, he did, and I believe the article was in Railmodel Journal. He also
makes a roof for the MDT car (as well as ends)to be used on Intermountain's
reefer. However, didn't Roger Hinman once say that all this was pointless
because the rivet pattern on the R-40-23 doesn't match any MDT reefers?

Shawn Beckert

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I think Stan Rydarowitz did an article on kitbashing MDT reefers using the
IM R-40-23 kit and his ends. It might have been in RMC or RMJ a couple of
years ago.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon





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Re: Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Shawn Beckert
 

Yes, he did, and I believe the article was in Railmodel Journal. He also
makes a roof for the MDT car (as well as ends)to be used on Intermountain's
reefer. However, didn't Roger Hinman once say that all this was pointless
because the rivet pattern on the R-40-23 doesn't match any MDT reefers?

Shawn Beckert

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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones



I think Stan Rydarowitz did an article on kitbashing MDT reefers using the
IM R-40-23 kit and his ends. It might have been in RMC or RMJ a couple of
years ago.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon





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Re: Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

I think Stan Rydarowitz did an article on kitbashing MDT reefers using the
IM R-40-23 kit and his ends. It might have been in RMC or RMJ a couple of
years ago.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Re: MDT Reefers was Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Brian Carlson
 

Richard Hendrickson shared this kitbash with me back in August. He reply (pieced together) is below. Also Don't forget Mike Brock said SC&F was going to do 3 MDT resin reefers after this Harriman car which is almost complete from what was mentioned in the Cocoa Beach reports. Mike are these MDT resin cars still coming?

Richard wrote"The main problem in using IM's R-40-23 model to represent an MDT
9000 series cars is that the ends are wrong. Other minor details need
modification as well, but it's a relatively easy kitbash, leaving the
factory lettering on the sides intact. The MDT cars had 3/4 improved Dreadnaught ends, not the 3/3 ends on the model (which are, of course, correct for the PFE R-40-23s). I got a pair of replacement ends by cutting them off an old Athearn reefer roof and carving and filing off the ladders, grabs, and other molded-on junk.
Turned out to be a lot easier than it looked, as was taking the ends off
the Intermountain car

Brian carlson



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Re: Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Jan 10, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Glenn Joppich wrote:

Hi Ted,

Is there a reference for this conversion?

Glenn Joppich
Redford, MI

tculotta@... wrote:
__________
The R-40-23 can be kitbashed into other prototypes, notably MDT, but that
requires some work that is not as they come out-of-the-box.
Glenn:

I am not aware of an article out there that shows how. If you're game, the best bet is to get your hands on some photos and take a crack at it.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
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(650) 787-1912


Private Owner PS-2's

Bill Lane <billlane@...>
 

Hi All,

S Helper Service http://www.showcaseline.com/index.html has been making 2
bay PS2 for many years now. I am sure that they have searched out many
schemes to continue the use of the car. There are photos of schemes past and
present on the website.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29
http://www.pennsysmodels.com
The freight versions are currently in production

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957


Re: Private Owner PS-2's

Shawn Beckert
 

John Pearson wrote:

Ed lists all owners at new 1954 -1960, private owners appear as:
GACX - 10 No
NAHX - 527 No
StJLCO - 1 No ( St. Joseph Lead Co )
Thanks, John. If North American had 527 of these, there's a good
chance that some were in the lease pool with "Plain-Jane" reporting
marks, exactly what I'm looking for. Now I just need to find photos.

Shawn Beckert, surprised that GACX only had 10...


Re: Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?

Gary Laakso <glaaks0@...>
 

Mike, what was the attendance this year? Just bodies, not bodies paying
attention.

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Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?



BTW, the dates for next yr are Jan 5-8 and by then the entire hotel will
be
rennovated<
I heard on PBS the other day that Delta (primary carrier to get there)
was reducing rates by a large margin. Wonder if I can buy tickets
now?<G>.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
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Re: Private Owner PS-2's

John Pearson <PRRJ1a@...>
 

Shawn,
In response to your question.
Model Railroad Journal accessed at www.railmodeljournal.com published an article by Ed Hawkins on the PS-2 by Kadee.
Sorry I can't tell you date of publication but it was soon after the model was first produced. Their site will give you the date.

Ed lists all owners at new 1954 -1960, private owners appear as:

GACX - 10 No
NAHX - 527 No
StJLCO - 1 No ( St Joseph Lead Co )

I seem to recall seeing a model lettered for BORAX, in a recent MRR magazine not sure which one.
I guess they would have found their way to "private " ownership as trade ins.

Regards
John Pearson

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Subject: [STMFC] Private Owner PS-2's


List,

I've been looking at Kadee's undecorated PS-2 and
wondering what private owner paint and lettering
could be applied to this car:

http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/8601l.htm

We've had discussions in the past about how far
from home you could find railroad-owned hoppers
(not very) but I don't think we've discussed the
PS-2's and ACF 70-ton hoppers that were privately
owned by various companies.

Does anyone have knowledge (or photos) of PS-2's
that were in private-owner or maybe lease service?
A quick look at the Fallen Flags web site didn't turn
up anything.(Yes, I have gobs of magazine articles
on these cars, but they're deep in storage right now).

Thanks,

Shawn Beckert


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Re: Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?

Brian Termunde
 

In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:49:25 PM Mountain Standard Time, atsf@...
writes:
I heard on PBS the other day that Delta (primary carrier to get there)
was reducing rates by a large margin. Wonder if I can buy tickets now?<G>.

----> Sure...of course the real question is will Delta still be around then!
I hope so!

Take Care!

Brian R. Termunde
West Jordan, Utah
"Ship and Travel the Grand Canyon Line!"
Grand Canyon Railway
Utah District


Private Owner PS-2's

Shawn Beckert
 

List,

I've been looking at Kadee's undecorated PS-2 and
wondering what private owner paint and lettering
could be applied to this car:

http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/8601l.htm

We've had discussions in the past about how far
from home you could find railroad-owned hoppers
(not very) but I don't think we've discussed the
PS-2's and ACF 70-ton hoppers that were privately
owned by various companies.

Does anyone have knowledge (or photos) of PS-2's
that were in private-owner or maybe lease service?
A quick look at the Fallen Flags web site didn't turn
up anything.(Yes, I have gobs of magazine articles
on these cars, but they're deep in storage right now).

Thanks,

Shawn Beckert


Re: Who had R40-23 and R40-25 reefer clones

Glenn Joppich <gjopp@...>
 

Hi Ted,

Is there a reference for this conversion?

Glenn Joppich
Redford, MI

tculotta@... wrote:
__________
The R-40-23 can be kitbashed into other prototypes, notably MDT, but that
requires some work that is not as they come out-of-the-box.


Re: Cocoa Beach - News, Comments, Analyses?

Paul Lyons
 

Jon, Delta's fare may be cheap now, but the question begs to be asked--will they be around to use the ticket next year?
Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

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