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Re: Missouri Pacific - Cotton Belt Interchange at Tyler, Texas

asychis@...
 

Shawn,

I cant' comment the operations, but looking at Palestine Division Timetable
#1, 7/22/56, Tyler was on the 44.2-mile Mineola Subdivision, which ran between
Mineola and Troup with Tyler somewhat in the center. North to south:

Mineola
Eads
Lindale
Swan
Tyler
Elberta
Whitehorse
Troup

Mineola was a junction with the T&P and the sub intersected the ex-I-GN line
running south from Longview at Troup. This isn't "barren" country as such,
but it was a pretty light line, probably 20-30 mph territory,and no
railroad-owned sidings are mentioned at any of the towns. I don't have a copy of the
special instructions, so I don't know what private sidings were on the line.
According to the timetable, the line was serviced by local freights 690
(North) and 691 (South). Looks like a turn-around leaving Mineola at 6:30 AM,
arriving Troup at 9:20 AM, and back to Mineola at 1:45PM. There were yards at
Troup and Mineola, but none at Tyler. Tyler did, however, have track scales
(as did Mineola), which may be an indicator of some sort of traffic level
coming off the SSW and heading south to Troup, since it would be odd to have
track scales out in the middle of a light branch line, especially when Mineola
also had track scales only about 25 miles away.

I'm sure Jim Ogden, or one of those other South Texans can shed further
light. Would love to know if they were really trading off whole trains at Tyler.

Jerry Michels


Re: NSC 40' Boxcar

John Force <jnforce@...>
 

Hi Tim et al
I don't have any other information. I got the dates from a local hobby shop stock. Trains Canada web site is www.trainscanada.ca
John

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] NSC 40' Boxcar


John Force wrote

>some of the dates on the Trains Canada NSC cars are as follows:
>
>CN 537559, Blt 4-54, Weigh CN 6-85;
>CN 521510, Blt 10-45;
>CN 484705, Blt 9-32, Weigh CN 9-84.
>
>All appear to be the same basic car with the CN Maple Leaf Herald.
>Don't seem to be accurate.

John, my notes have 537559 as CCF built, with IDE-2 ends. (IDE-2
is Hawkinese for 4/4 "rolling pin" ribs with a short top rib.)
So definitely not an NSC car. Is this correct?

There is a published photo of CN 521819, appears to be an NSC car.
What info do you have on this series?

I have no info on 484705 -- but the number series is close to the
CN 1937 AAR box cars.




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Missouri Pacific - Cotton Belt Interchange at Tyler, Texas

Shawn Beckert
 

List,

We've been having a discussion over on the Cotton Belt List
on the freight operations out of SSW's Tyler, Texas yard.
One of the list-members had this to say about Tyler:

"In its heyday the Tyler yard was the staging area for the Lufkin local,
daily Waco train and several dodgers. I think occassionally they would
send a whole train of empties to Pine Bluff. Also, a lot of interchange
traffic with the MoPac branch from Troup. Entire trains of rice from
Arkansas would be given to the MP for transport to the coast."

I was surprised to see this much cooperation between two railroads that
were such fierce competitors in this region. Using a railroad atlas, I
checked out the MoPac line from Tyler to Troup. I believe this was part
of the old International-Great Northern. The line looks pretty barren;
there are no towns listed besides the junctions at Tyler and Troup.

Can any of the Missouri Pacific people here look at the appropriate MP
timetable and tell me if there was anything at all in the way of industry
on this line? I can picture solid trains of 40' boxcars being handed off
to the MoPac, with maybe a few of SSW's early 3-compartment hoppers, but
what about other traffic? Did Missouri Pacific have anything to offer in
the way of interchange *to* the Cotton Belt in exchange for all those
trains of rice? Thanks for any light you can shed on these operations.

Shawn Beckert


Re: NSC 40' Boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 

John Force wrote

some of the dates on the Trains Canada NSC cars are as follows:

CN 537559, Blt 4-54, Weigh CN 6-85;
CN 521510, Blt 10-45;
CN 484705, Blt 9-32, Weigh CN 9-84.

All appear to be the same basic car with the CN Maple Leaf Herald.
Don't seem to be accurate.
John, my notes have 537559 as CCF built, with IDE-2 ends. (IDE-2
is Hawkinese for 4/4 "rolling pin" ribs with a short top rib.)
So definitely not an NSC car. Is this correct?

There is a published photo of CN 521819, appears to be an NSC car.
What info do you have on this series?

I have no info on 484705 -- but the number series is close to the
CN 1937 AAR box cars.


Drawings for SP Facilities - San Jose - Bayshore - West Oakland

paullaciura@...
 

Friends,

I am in the process of creating AutoCad drawings for three SP facilities: the Lenzen Roundhouse in San Jose, the Bayshore Roundhouse in Brisbane, and the "Streamliner" running shop in West Oakland. I have excellent field dimensions and photos of the West Oakland building (including wheel drop pit). I have good field dimensions and photos of the two roundhouses.

In order to make the drawings as complete as possible, I would like to obtain any "as-built" drawings of these facilities. I have the capability to copy old blueprints and drawings without damaging them. I would of course reimburse the provider of any drawings for any appropriate shipping and handling costs. I would promptly return the documents in the same condition as received.

I intend to make the electronic files of the drawings available to anyone interested. What is great about the electronic files is that the facilities can be plotted in any scale for modelling purposes. My primary focus will be HO (3.5mm = 1 ft) and the lettering will set up for that scale, but plotting for other scales will be easy accomplished.

My field dimensions are fairly complete, but I obviously have no subsurface information. That is where the "as-built" drawings would be particularly helpful. I intend to create the following drawings for each facility, at a minimum:

Floor Plan
Foundation Plan
Roof Plan
Roof Framing Plan
Building Sections
Typical Sections and Details

This effort is a work in progress, and will take several months. I have started on the Lenzen Roundhouse. I have the excellent series of SP drawings by Bruce Petty. In lieu of any additional drawings, the drawings of the Hazen, Nevada roundhouse (Volume 5) are very similar to the Lenzen facilities, and I will use them to attempt to create foundation drawings, etc. If possible, I would also like to create a piping drawing showing utilities such as steam, water, sewer, etc.

Any help in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated.

Paul LaCiura
San Francisco, CA


Re: NSC 40' Boxcar (Was: New Box car)

John Force <jnforce@...>
 

Group,
some of the dates on the Trains Canada NSC cars are as follows: CN537559, Blt 4-54, Weigh CN 6-85; CN 521510, Blt 10-45; CN 484705, Blt 9-32, Weigh CN 9-84. All appear to be the same basic car with the CN Maple Leaf Herald. Don't seem to be accurate.
John Force

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Simpson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] NSC 40' Boxcar (Was: New Box car)



Ted,

The Trains Canada NSC boxcar is produced by H&D Hobby in Calgary.
They have been available in Canada for several years now. They come
in a variety of accurate and semi-accurate paint schemes. They are
also available undecorated.

How do they compare to other 40' boxcars on the market? The Trains
Canada cars are way better than Athearn or Roundhouse but definetely
not up to par with Intermountain, Red Caboose, or Branchline
Blueprint Series. I would say they are very close to Branchline's
Yardmaster series, maybe just slightly inferior.

The molded on grabs and stirrups are frustrating - but they can be
easily carved off. The ladders are quite oversized and do not have
the right profile - but look removeable. The biggest problem I have
with these kits is the rivet size!!! The owner (Hanz???) of
H&D "decided" to have the models tooled with oversize rivets so that
they would "stand out" to the casual viewer. Only problem is - these
cars really do "stand out" when beside Intermountain, Red Caboose,
and Blueprint type cars. The rivets look to be almost twice the size
of their counterparts listed above. It might be possible to sand
blast an undecorated car evenly to reduce the size of the rivets to
something more accurate. I haven't tried this yet - but plan on it
in the future just in case someone else doesn't do this type of car.

The prototype that H&D selected represents a 10'6" High 40 footer
with NSC3 ends, an NSC roof, and eight foot doors. I mostly need 6
foot doors for my fleet of Canadian grain boxes - so I am opting to
stick with the Intermountain and/or Red Caboose (IMWX) kits,
supplementing Sylvan (Ex-CRMPG) ends, doors, and roofs were
appropriate. For the couple cars that I need with 8 foot doors and
NSC roofs and ends - I will likely use the H&D kit - although highly
modified with add on detail parts and a sand blasting to reduce rivet
size.

So if you are looking for something that represents a "true" Canadian
prototype - with slightly oversize details. This car is for you. It
is also an excellent starting point for a highly-detailed project or
for future kitbashing projects. I already have other ideas for those
NSC roofs and ends!!! Finally, you can't really beat the price,
especially for the undecorated units. Check em out!

Jeff Simpson
NAR YahooGroup Owner
Calgary, AB

--- In STMFC@..., Ted Schnepf <railsunl@f...> wrote:
> Anyone seen the model and can comment on its accuracy?
>
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B&O,C&O War Emergency Hoppers

Edwin C. Kirstatter <Q1xaMacArthur1@...>
 

As late as 1960 the B&O still rostered 231 class N-37 WWII emergency
hoppers still with wood sides
intact.

They also still had 575 class N-37A and 200 class N-37B which were these
hoppers converted from composite to all steel construction. All of these
cars had Duryea cushion underframes and were built
by Bethlehem Steel Co. in 1943-44.

Edwin C. Kirstatter, B&O Modeler.


Re: Freight Tariffs

Bill McCoy <bugsy451@...>
 

A typo... The tariff bureau covering traffic from Iowa and Nebraska
was the Western TRUNK Lines. I also mis-spelled tariff 10 times. It
just wasn't my night. Sorry.

Bill McCoy


--- In STMFC@..., "Bill McCoy" <bugsy451@c...> wrote:

I was involved with pricing (Sales and marketing) with CSXT and
it's
predecessors for 33 years. The various respondents are correct in
that tarriffs were esoteric in the extreme. It depends on what
tarriff as to whether it may have great or little value.

Tarriffs fell into three major categories: Class, Exception and
Commodity. The Class tarriffs were the list price for anything to
move between anywhere and are of little value for traffic flow
varification such as the thread on the WAG a few weeks ago. The
Exception tarriffs are more specific and deal with larger volume
movement between some specific points although many of the rates
are
based on mileage rather than between specific origins and
destinations. The best vintage tarriffs to get information from
are
Commodity tarriffs. They deal specific commodities such as steel,
meat, perishables etc., points of origin, destination, car type
and
route and would be a great way to varify what car types would be
likely to have moved during a specific period. Most Commodity
rates
were point to point were published from origin to destination
including specific specification as to car type, minimum weights
and
route. Meat rates to the east from Iowa and Nebraska would have
been
in a Western Truck Lines (WTL) Tarriff. Those from Chicago would
have been in an Illinois Freight Agency (IFA) tarriff. There would
have been a tarriff for traffic moving to the East, the Trunk Line
Territory etc. All of the US was divided into rate territories.
All
of the railroads that had traffic moving were members of these
rate
bureaus which operated under the auspicies of the ICC. These
bureaus
and most of this rate structure dissappeared with deregulation in
1980.

If anyone wants to list the title page information of old tarriffs
they come across, I woulsd be more than happy to try to give them
perspective as to what value they would have too us as modelers.

Bill McCoy
Jax



--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@c...>
wrote:

Phil, no and no. It you didn't have a carload (or close to),
then you sent it l.c.l.

You might substitute two cars for one car, but it costs you
plenty. And the customer could refuse the cars. I suppose a
coal mine may not care, but if you're shipping merchandise
or machinery the car type & size might be important.

OK, I can understand it at this level. If you ordered a
car,
you
paid a minimum weight regardless of how small your shipment
was.
As
your shipment weight went up, the rate slid up accordingly.
Relating this to a model railroad, I may have to run two 40
ton
cars to a siding if I decide that there is no 50 ton car
available
that day.


Re: Freight Tariffs

Bill McCoy <bugsy451@...>
 

I was involved with pricing (Sales and marketing) with CSXT and it's
predecessors for 33 years. The various respondents are correct in
that tarriffs were esoteric in the extreme. It depends on what
tarriff as to whether it may have great or little value.

Tarriffs fell into three major categories: Class, Exception and
Commodity. The Class tarriffs were the list price for anything to
move between anywhere and are of little value for traffic flow
varification such as the thread on the WAG a few weeks ago. The
Exception tarriffs are more specific and deal with larger volume
movement between some specific points although many of the rates are
based on mileage rather than between specific origins and
destinations. The best vintage tarriffs to get information from are
Commodity tarriffs. They deal specific commodities such as steel,
meat, perishables etc., points of origin, destination, car type and
route and would be a great way to varify what car types would be
likely to have moved during a specific period. Most Commodity rates
were point to point were published from origin to destination
including specific specification as to car type, minimum weights and
route. Meat rates to the east from Iowa and Nebraska would have been
in a Western Truck Lines (WTL) Tarriff. Those from Chicago would
have been in an Illinois Freight Agency (IFA) tarriff. There would
have been a tarriff for traffic moving to the East, the Trunk Line
Territory etc. All of the US was divided into rate territories. All
of the railroads that had traffic moving were members of these rate
bureaus which operated under the auspicies of the ICC. These bureaus
and most of this rate structure dissappeared with deregulation in
1980.

If anyone wants to list the title page information of old tarriffs
they come across, I woulsd be more than happy to try to give them
perspective as to what value they would have too us as modelers.

Bill McCoy
Jax



--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@c...> wrote:

Phil, no and no. It you didn't have a carload (or close to),
then you sent it l.c.l.

You might substitute two cars for one car, but it costs you
plenty. And the customer could refuse the cars. I suppose a
coal mine may not care, but if you're shipping merchandise
or machinery the car type & size might be important.

OK, I can understand it at this level. If you ordered a car,
you
paid a minimum weight regardless of how small your shipment was.
As
your shipment weight went up, the rate slid up accordingly.
Relating this to a model railroad, I may have to run two 40
ton
cars to a siding if I decide that there is no 50 ton car
available
that day.


Re: Sunshine Models Trip to California

charles slater
 

Martin will be at the OREM swap meet on March 5th and this years Monrovia meet is gotng to be moved to Buena Park. He is getting the fliers ready to mail now and if you are on his mailing list you should be getting one in the next couple of weeks.
Charlie Slater
Bakersfield, Ca.

From: "Robert Cheeks" <Rcheeks666@...>
Reply-To: STMFC@...
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunshine Models Trip to California
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:53:14 -0800

Jay

The swap meet at OREM is Sat. March 5. I haven't heard if Martin will
be there. He usually hosts the Sunshine Prototype Modelers Meet the
next day in Monrovia. I just checked the STMFC website calendar and
it lists the Monrovia meet on Sunday so I would guess he'll be there.

Robert Cheeks
Riverside CA

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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine Models Trip to California




Anyone know the dates for the Perris, Ca Swap Meet and whether Mr.
Lofton will be there with a pacel of Sunshine kits.

Jay Bingham
Pacific Palisades, CA





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Re: Missouri Pacific 7100-7199 series hoppers with coke racks

Ed Hawkins
 

On Monday, January 24, 2005, at 08:03 AM, asychis@... wrote:

In the late 1950s, Missouri Pacific had 100 cars (7100-7199) fitted with coke
racks. Were these hoppers or gondolas? Doe anyone know of photos of this
series of cars with or without the coke racks? Could someone describe for me
just what a coke rack is? Anyone know of coke ovens in the Southern Illinois
area? Five of these cars were assigned to coke service out of Bush, Illinois,
from Burning Star mine, but I can find no information on coke ovens. The
majority of these cars (75) were assigned to Great Lakes out of Carondelet,
Missouri. Thanks!
Jerry,
The 4/57 ORER lists these cars as being gondola cars with no special notes about coke racks. The cars were built in mid-1956. The only photo I've seen of a car from this series was a MP builder's photo 4x5 negative in the Union Pacific Archives.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Rail Classics and Ted Reimel (Ted's Enginehouse)

steamgene@...
 

It could be that the brass market suffers from the price of the
locomotives used to pull the steam era freigth cars when
compared with the output of Bachamnn, Life-Like, BLI, and even
Con-Cor in the last few years. Well made, prototypical correct
locos at a fraction of what brass goes for sure has cut down my
brass purchasing.
Gene Moser
From: "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@...>
Date: 2005/01/24 Mon AM 01:14:20 EST
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Rail Classics and Ted Reimel (Ted's
Enginehouse)


Ted, Tim and List,

Yes, it is true, Rail Classics has folded the tent. Eddie's father
has
recently passed away and other pressures have caused him to
make the
decision to close the business. He is in the process of selling the
balance of his inventory, which is at present, quite low. All
projects,
including the PRR Business Cars, Gondolas, P5 Electric projects
and the
PRR Passenger head end and coaches that he picked up with
the close of
Rail Works have been shut down.

I am not suprised, considering the fact that the brass market is
down at
present. One look at some of the ads in MR and other
magazines for some
of the more prominent brass dealers show them carrying large
inventories
that are going nowhere.

Unfortunately, Rail Classics was probably the most exacting
importers in
the field. Eddie would not allow his manufacturer to begin
production
on any model until he received and approved the pilot model.
This was
not the case with other importers who used Samhongsa, who
had the habit
of going into production, almost on the same day that he shipped
the
pilot model and by the time that the importer attempted to correct
the
short comings, it was too late!

Hopefully, we may be able to convince Martin Lofton to bring out
the
G31 in urethane. I understand that Crown Custom Imports, who
was
supposed to bring out the PRR H33 Covered Hopper has now
delayed this
model indefinitely. Again, not surprising, considering the large
unsold
inventory that he is now sitting on. The owner is the son of the
person
who retired and closed his business, Railworks.

For those of you, who in the past had bought models from Ted
Reimel
(Ted's Enginehouse) of Pennsauken, NJ., who closed his
business and
retired two years ago: Ted passed away on January 15th. He
had been in
ill health, having had a stroke last fall which resulted in his
having
gone into a nursing home.

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Re: IC Hopper

Michael Aufderheide
 

Chet and Jerry,

Thank you very much for the information. Do either of
you have a diagram of this car you could share. It
would be interesting to look at a possible kitbash.

Regards,

Mike

--- Chet French <cfrench@...> wrote:


--- In STMFC@..., "Jerry" <jrs060@m...>
wrote:

Well Mike your not going to get any help from
the "West Coast
Brain Trust" on this one. What your are
discribing here is the
IC rebuild of it's USRA composite gondola cars
done at Centralia
shops in I believe 1948. They were 2 bay, and
because of the
rebuilding, low in stature height, and longer in
length than a
normal 2 bay off-set side hopper. It was simply
an easy fix of
a hole lot of old worn-out gondola cars. One
must remember the
environment this was done in after the war, as
thay would say
in RAILWAY AGE magazine, "To build or to
rebuild".
I can personal remember many IC coal trains in
the mid 1950's,
and out of a 100 car drag to the BRC in Chicago,
10 or so
would always be the rebuilds. They were quit
prevalent in the
late 40's, through the late 50's.
Mike and Jerry,

The cars in question were built, or more correctly
converted, into
twin hoppers by the IC from former gondolas
numbered in the 90000-
93970 series, (original numbers 214750-218749). The
first group was
converted in 1945 and numbered 75000-76999. The
second group were
converted in 1946 and 1947 and numbered 77000-78965.
Photos of these
cars show original built dates of 1924 and 25.
Quite a few of these
cars were still in service in 1960 when I hired out
on the IC, but
they rapidly disappeared within the next few years
By 1962, the IC
was using their number series on new 11'-10" height
twin hoppers
being built that year.

The cars had an inside length of 41'-3", and the
hoppers were 16'-2"
apart at the bottom of the openings. Their 9'-7"
height made them
stand out in a train of IC hoppers, most of which
were 10'-8" in
height. I have not looked into the way to model
these cars, but I
have been promoted them to a familiar resin car
pattern maker for a
few years.

Chet French
Dixon, IL





--- In STMFC@..., Mike Aufderheide
<mononinmonon@y...>
wrote:
Looking through some books recently, a few
interesting
IC hoppers have stuck out. They have ribbed
sides with
a short flat panel above. On one car the upper
panel
looked to have stampings at a regular interval.
They
look very similar to the rebuilt PRR H22a coke
cars (a
la Bowser), that is low hoppers with an extended
side.
In an IC book I was looking at they were very
prevailant. The two numbers I was able to see
are
77036 and 75373. The hopper bottoms are in
shadow in
all cases so I don't know how many bays they
are.
Even with the sides extended their height is
about a
foot lower than the typical offset-side IC twin
hoppers. Does anyone know about these cars and
how to
model them?

Thanks,

Mike Aufderheide






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Re: Missouri Pacific 7100-7199 series hoppers with coke racks

asychis@...
 

In a message dated 01/24/05 4:38:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
hawk0621@... writes:

The 4/57 ORER lists these cars as being gondola cars with no special
notes about coke racks.


Ed,

They were probably fitted with coke racks in 1958, according to a list
Charlie Duckworth sent me. Thanks

Jerry


Re: Great Scale Model Train Show,Timonium,Md.

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Jim Cummings asked:
"Does anyone know if Sunshine Models will be an attending vendor?"

Tom Olsen posted yesterday, 23 January (post #37803):
"I spoke with Martin on Friday to find out if he was going to be in
Maryland for the Timonium Scale Train Meet the first weekend in
February and he advised that it looked like he was not going to make
it due to ongoing business."


Ben Hom


Great Scale Model Train Show,Timonium,Md.

jimbojk2003
 

Does anyone know if Sunshine Models will be an attending vendor?I
believe the date is Feb.5-6.
Regards, Jim Cummings


Re: Erie Delivery

Tim O'Connor
 

Schuyler, I show Erie 63000-63157 as 50 foot, single door
box cars built in 1954 (RMJ 11/1998). They are listed in the
1959 ORER that way, although there are only 49 cars in the
series.

Erie end door box car series listed in the 1959 ORER:

62200-62233
66500-66548
68008-68097
68100-68199
97100-97199
97250-97399
97400-97499

About that Erie box car . . .

This appears to be Erie's 63000-63099 series of end-door 50' boxcars. Larry De
Young notes in his EL Color Guide that at least three of these cars lasted into
1976, assigned to (surprise!) carrying fire trucks for American LaFrance in
Elmira, NY...

- Paul

Posted by SGL


Re: 1949 2 Bay Covered Hopper

fuchst900
 

Is there any way to determine who made the car? The bolsters are riveted. With so many pictures and its availability to view, it would make a nice project. Steve Fuchs, College Place, WA

MOFWCABOOSE@... wrote:In recent decades it has been quite common to convert covered hoppers to
ballast cars by cutting off the roof and replacing the old unloading hoppers with
ballast doors. Conrail, CSXT, and BN all have or had ballast cars of this
type.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL






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Re: B&O Wagon-Top kit source

Montford Switzer <ZOE@...>
 

Jason:

The reason that I asked.............

I built three of these kits back about 1985 adding lots of detail
goodies and doing different side sill and door variations. They still
look pretty good except for being "wide bodies." I'm wondering if it
would be worth it (and possible) to pry them apart, narrow the side
pieces and replace the ends. I've always through I'd just have to sell
them off and liked them too much to do so.

I think I would give the upgrade angle a try.

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason C [mailto:dhc628@...]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:02 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] B&O Wagon-Top kit source


--- <ZOE@...> wrote:

Do you know if there is any chance of an upgrade
kit for those with the old
versions?

Mont Switzer
Mont,

I've not heard Merle mention releasing a seperate
upgrade kit for the older versions. One of the big
features of this new release is the narrowing of the
body to a scale or near scale width. I'll check with
him and see if it's something that he's considering.
If he does, it most likely would be more of a special
order for parts as opposed to a catologed item.

Jason Cook
Fort Wayne, IN



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Re: PRR 123353-X28a narrow panel dimensions

Larry Kline
 

Ben Hom wrote:
8 of ten of the X28/X28A side panels are the same width as the X29. The
two "odd" panels are the one that replaced the door (the door itself
was 4 ft 4 in) and the one immediately to the left of the door. No
drawings for the X28/X28A exist in the model press; however, drawings
of the similar CNJ auto boxcar appeared in the July 1986 issue of
Mainline Modeler and should reveal the dimensions of the narrow panel.
(I can't find my copy at the moment.) I'm working on an article to
accompany future drawings of the Class X28/X28A cars in Mainline
Modeler. There is no difference in length between the X28 and X28/X28A.

There is a photo of X28a 1223455 in the NMRA Charles collection that
close to a straight on side view. I used the perspective command in
Photoshop and printed the photo to 1/2 in scale. I measured the
following approximate dimensions from the perspective corrected photo:
- Wide panel next to door: 4 ft 4 in
- Next, narrow panel: 2 ft 6 in

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

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