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Re: Online list of Sunshine kits
Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
There is another list of Sunshine Kits. That is the All-Time List revised by Jim Hayes and posted on Ted Culotta's internet website "Steamfreightcars.com." Here is the link to the all-time list update that was posted for 2004:
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http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/new%20products/sunshine/sunkits112003main.html Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@... Bill Sornsin wrote:
In the constructive spirit our moderator requests, you'll find an unofficial
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Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
What does a Murphy solid steel roof look like?I don't have much to go on, as far as photos go< Check the Westerfield site, he has resin kits for these cars. Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details
Mark Heiden
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wrote: On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Mark Heiden wrote:boxcars:Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13 Hi Richard,Murphy solid steel (without rectangular panels) Thanks for the reply. What does a Murphy solid steel roof look like? I don't have much to go on, as far as photos go. It looks very similar to the roof on USRA boxcars: flat panels with narrow, low- relief seams. Thanks, Mark Heiden
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Re: Rapid Protyping and advanced mold making
Charlie Vlk
Ceramic tooling is used for some injection molded plastic kits that are
commercially available in both HO and N Scale. I've heard that the Beyers (???) horses are molded from ceramic molds made by the same company that supplies tooling to a couple of manufacturers that make those kits. The finish and fit of the molds can be pretty good..... although AFAIK ceramic tooling has not been used for rolling stock. The tooling isn't good for large numbers of shots, but certainly enough for one-railroad prototype freight cars of specialized interest. And if you guess wrong new inserts can always be made to replace the worn-out ones for a fraction of the cost of having a damaged aluminum or steel insert repaired or replaced. Charlie Vlk Railroad Model Resources
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Essential brake wheels
Schuyler Larrabee
Ted,
Thanks for the Brakewheel Primer on pages 98-99 in the May RMC. I've needed that for a long time. SGL
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Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details
Richard Hendrickson
On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Mark Heiden wrote:
Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcars:Murphy solid steel (without rectangular panels) 2) What sort of roof walk was used?Running boards and laterals were wood. 3) What model of power handbrake was used?Ajax. 4) When were these cars delivered? I've seen both 1930 and 1931 as1931. Richard Hendrickson
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Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details
Mark Heiden
Hello everyone,
Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcars: 1) What sort of roof were the cars delivered with? 2) What sort of roof walk was used? 3) What model of power handbrake was used? 4) When were these cars delivered? I've seen both 1930 and 1931 as delivery dates. Thanks, Mark Heiden
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Last on the PM Hopper?
Justin Kahn
I went ahead and chose the SAG re-weigh datum, as one of the relatively late choices and both obvious and distinctive for PM; and as Richard Hendrickson raised the question of whether I could have mis-read the "WV" for "WY" (Wyoming Yard), I did check when I got to the backshop and it is indeed WV, so CDS may have misinterpreted prototype views of the cars in creating the lettering. Nonetheless, I have almost always been very pleased with the results from using their sets.
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Re: Rapid Protyping and advanced mold making
Charlie Vlk
While the CAD/M and laser technologies are making advances, a large part of
the expense of tooling is still in the mold base and fitting the inserts to it. The marketing of kits is not related to the cost of the tooling,- it is a function of the demand for kits versus assembled cars. Even buildings are now coming built up.....this is not because labor is cheap in China (it still costs more to assemble and ship assembled parts than package kits) but because (most) customers in the marketplace want to buy them that way. Rapid prototyping has its most promising application in the creation of masters for short production run kits.... something in between today's resin kits and Intermountain / P2000 . I have been working with a company that has a new technology machine that has the resolution to build Z scale rivet sized detail into an acryic plastic part. The process is too slow to compete with resin and injection molded plastic but is great for producing masters, either for resin kits or for ceramic tooling inserts. There is all sorts of good stuff coming and the technology is helping make possible projects that would have not been possible five years ago!! Charlie Vlk
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Re: NP Painting Question
Richard Hendrickson
On Apr 22, 2005, at 9:42 AM, railsnw1 wrote:
NP box cars built during the mid-to-late 1940s came from the builders with black trucks, underframes, and ends and mineral red sides, doors and roofs. However, the NP (like many other RRs) painted everything mineral red when the cars were repainted in the 1950s. Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Essential freight cars in RMC
Richard Hendrickson
On Apr 22, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Clyde Williams wrote:
Bill, AFAIK a 36' stock car in styrene isn't high on any manufacturer's priority list for future production. However, resin kits ar ethe subject ofTed's series in RMC, and Westerfield makes fine resin kits for the SP/T&NO/NWP etc. 36' stock cars, which were the most numerous cars of that type during the steam era, as well as for the MILW's 36' stock cars, of which there were more than 3,000. Other RRs that had large numbers of 36' stock cars were the Burlington and the C&NW, and some day it would be nice to have resin kits for those as well (the Q cars have been done in HO, but only in brass). Richard Hendrickson
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Re: Branchline kits (was Sunshine and the Internet)
Doug Brown <brown194@...>
Thanks Ben. I don't have any Yardmaster kits myself, just several
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Blueprint kits. Doug Brown
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of benjaminfrank_hom Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:28 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Branchline kits (was Sunshine and the Internet) Doug Brown wrote: "[Branchline] also make[s] the Yardmaster series with cast on ladders and grabs on one piece bodies." Not quite. The basic design of the Yardmaster boxcars are the same as the Blueprint series, with a central core of sides and floor with separate ends, roof, and underframe. Ben Hom Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Rapid Protyping and advanced mold making
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
The process is too slow to compete with resin and injection molded plasticbut is great for producing masters, either for resin kits or for ceramic tooling inserts.< I know nothing about ceramic tooling inserts however I'm wondering if the tooling (for injection styrene) would hold up for say 500 to 1000 kits? Is this a range to make a styrene kit (using this process) profitable? Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Online list of Sunshine kits
billsoman
In the constructive spirit our moderator requests, you'll find an unofficial
but reasonably current Excel listing of Sunshine kits and pricing on the group website at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/. It's old news for some, but newer members may not have seen it. Click Files and scroll about 2/3 of the way down. No photos, but quite thorough. I used it for a recent order which worked out great. -- Bill in Seattle P.s. Many Yahoo groups have invaluable information posted on their corresponding websites. Spend some time trolling there, especially when you first join; don't limit yourself to just the emails.
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Re: Ebay Auction Rohm & Haas Decal-What time period is this?
Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
The photo was taken in July 1957. A copy of the same photo which I
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received from Joe Henry just recently appeared in the Phila Chapter magazine "The High Line." When I wrote the note, I accidentally picked up the date (8-58) from the end of the caption on the photo. Actually the date given in the caption of the 6738 being dropped from the roster is incorrect! The correct whiteline date was 11-19-58 and the locomotive was sold for scrap on 9-3-59. Sorry for the mix-up! The Penn had prepared to fire up a number of steam locomotives in early Spring 1958 for yard use, but the United States Steel strike that year scotched the whole works, so that the last revenue use of steam was in November 1957. In regard to the Rohm & Haas use of tank cars, I thank all who responded to my questions. Tom Olsen 7 Boundary Road, West Branch Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479 (302) 738-4292 tmolsen@... Tom or Gail Madden wrote:
On Apr 20, 2005, at 10:21 PM, Tom Olsen wrote:Forgive my ignorance here, not being a Pennsy expert and all, but steam was
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P2K Box Car Models for Sale
Paul LaCiura <paul.jeseng@...>
HO Lifelike Proto 2000 Box Car Models for Sale. All new in original boxes.
Hornhook couplers only. Numbers shown are road numbers. 3 - Assembled Models 50’ Auto Box Car with End Doors GTW #591527 CB&Q #48539 ERIE #65073 6 - Kits 50’ Auto Box Car with End Doors LV #8505 CB&Q #48500 SOU #40249 GTW #591543 ERIE #65093 50’ Auto Box Car with Dreadnaught Ends NKP #87143 Best offer at or over $75 takes the lot. Sold only as a lot. Postpaid via USPS Ground to continental US addresses only-any other special postage arrangements at buyer’s request/expense. Please contact me offlist at HYPERLINK "mailto:paul.jeseng@..."paul.jeseng@... for information and to bid. I will post best offer offlist next Monday morning to those interested and to give one more opportunity to bid. I will be away from this email address from 430 pm today to 8am next Monday morning. I will answer questions next Monday morning, or this afternoon if possible. Would like to have a buyer established next Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for your interest. Paul Paul LaCiura San Francisco, CA -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Essential freight cars in RMC
Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
The estimable. Dr. Smith writes-
No, no, we can't be at the end of the series! Ted hasn't done HeliumBruce, I am sure that you overlooked the truly ubiquitous poultry car. Denny -- Denny S. Anspach, MD Sacramento
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Re: Carriage bolt heads
centga@...
I think what your referring to is a "plow bolt" Todd Horton
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From: David Soderblom <drs@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:04:12 -0400 Subject: [STMFC] Carriage bolt heads There are also "carriage" bolts with conical heads specifically for flat car decks, and I have seen such on an EJ&E 70-ton flat. These allowed for a fully flush surface. David Soderblom Baltimore MD On 2005 Apr 22, , at 04:14, STMFC@... wrote: Message: 5David Soderblom Operations and Data Management Division Space Telescope Science Institute Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Branchline kits (was Sunshine and the Internet)
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Doug Brown wrote:
"[Branchline] also make[s] the Yardmaster series with cast on ladders and grabs on one piece bodies." Not quite. The basic design of the Yardmaster boxcars are the same as the Blueprint series, with a central core of sides and floor with separate ends, roof, and underframe. Ben Hom
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Branchline kits (was Sunshine and the Internet)
Doug Brown <brown194@...>
Bob and anyone else interested,
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There are three flavors of Branchline. Originally they decorated and sold kits from several manufacturers. These kits were of simple (Athearn) to moderately complex (adding ladders and such) from E&C Shops. When they started manufacturing their own kits, the Blueprint series, they went all out. Separate ends (4/4, r3/4 early, r3/4 late, Dartnaught and Despatch [NYC]) and roofs (rectangular panel, diagonal panel, overhanging diagonal panel and Despatch) are supplied. Undecorated kits have all roofs and ends so you can build what you wanted. Decorated kits have the roof and ends of the prototype. Bodies are available with straight, tapered and tabbed side sills. Each sill type undecorated kits and decorated kits with the prototype sills. They are very well researched with input from some on this list, with credits on the instruction sheets. They are not hard to build, but they take time and care. The brake systems are nearly complete and require care removing the remains of the "sprues" them and from ladders, grabs, etc. I bought some on ebay; the seller had built one (quite well in fact) but it was too much for him. They also make the Yardmaster series with cast on ladders and grabs on one piece bodies. These are of easier construction as a result. If you have the tools needed and have patience, I highly recommend the Blueprint kits. The Yardmaster kits are also good, just a lower level of detail construction. Doug Brown PS AND they still sell KITS!!
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Robert Welsh Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:48 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Sunshine and the Internet <snip> What does everyone here think of the Branchline kits? I am by no means an accomplished kit assembler, although I try. Are these kits nice enough to look at while easy enough to assemble? Also, a little off-topic but I have an older MDC Roundhouse 2-8-0 kit that belonged to my dad. I want to assemble it but the instructions are gone. Anyone have a source for those? Thanks Bob Welsh <snip>
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