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Re: Essential Freight Cars Series

jerryglow2
 

The problem with reprint articles such as this is timing. By the time
it is compiled, many of the kits will probably no longer be available
(at least new). Ted's articles are getting published in a farily
timely manner so it's not happening here, but often the subject models
are unavailable by the time the article appears. Still it's a good
idea for those that can be done and the modeling techniques.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., Ted Culotta <tculotta@s...> wrote in
response to:
Will your, or rather do you think your series on Essential Freight
Cars be compiled into a book?
Bill Schaumburg and I have discussed doing this and the answer is
yes,
although no details or specifics have been worked out, including
timing.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


Re: Sunshine and the Internet

jerryglow2
 

Many businesses hire someone to design/maintain their web site. It's
the same proposition as buy vs produce own (speaking of sub
components). Actually, if he was willing (hope I'm not violating the
rules here) to register and pay for the site, I'd bet someone would be
willing to help him with it. But that decision is one he must make.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., GCRDS@a... wrote:

---> Jerry, while I see what you are saying, and can agree with
you, there
are those who, for various reason, feel uncomfortable or have an
aversion to
using the computer. What is too bad is that he can't get someone to
host a
minimal website (something that isn't fancy, and is easy to update)
with this
information. Anyway, my pair of pennies on it.

Take Care!

Brian R. Termunde


Re: Essential Freight Cars Series

jerryglow2
 

He better get permission from Ted and/or RMC. Guess he'll have to use
snail mail since he apparantly doen't know how to use the internet.
<g>

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Tom or Gail Madden" <tgmadden@w...>
wrote:
I understand Martin Lofton is considering putting the articles on
his web
site..... :-) :-)

Tom "troublemaker" Madden


NP 40' gon, anyone?

Blair Kooistra <wallcloud@...>
 

Looked through the on-line Sunshine catalogue, and can't find any mention of a Northern Pacific 40' gondola that, I believe, was released last year. I think it shared a carbody with a few other roads.

Also, anyone know if "closeout" implies that the car is no longer available (as opposed to "discontinued")? I'm looking to finally purchase a couple NP War Emergency kits, if they're still around.


--blair kooistra
fort worth TX


Re: Essential brake wheels

Brian Termunde
 

In a message dated 4/23/2005 1:02:57 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
tculotta@... writes:

I'm a little steamed about this as I took great pains to use all correct
terminology and it was edited to read like a toy train modeler wrote it. Oh,
well at least the gist of it is correct...



---> I haven't seen this issue at yet, but would it be possible to post the
accurate version, perhaps in the files group? Just the captions, not the
photos? TIA!


Take Care!

Brian R. Termunde
West Jordan, Utah

"Ship and Travel the Grand Canyon Line!"
Grand Canyon Railway
Utah District


Re: Bettendorf underframe,

wp913a@yahoo.com <wp913a@...>
 

Hi Tony,
I'm intrested in the 30 ton one.
Thanks
Felix Daigre


Re: Essential brake wheels

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:30 PM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:


Ted,

Thanks for the Brakewheel Primer on pages 98-99 in the May RMC. I've needed that for a long time.
Schuyler:

Thank you. I'm a little steamed about this as I took great pains to use all correct terminology and it was edited to read like a toy train modeler wrote it. Oh, well at least the gist of it is correct...

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Online list of Sunshine kits

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Tom and others,
There are multiple versions of the Sunshine kit list on the Steam Freight
Cars website. The one I referenced
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/new%20products/sunshine/sunkits1220
04main.html
is the most recent.
You can also find it from the steamfreightcars home page by going to
Modeling/new products by manufacturer/Sunshine models. The link listed on
the home page will take you to an obsolete version.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Re: Online list of Sunshine kits

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

You'll also find essentially the same file as a PDF on the Steam Freight
Cars website at
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/new%20products/sunshine/sunkits1220
04main.html

And, I just noticed that there is something missing. I never finished adding
all the recent gondolas to the list. Kits 67.9 and above need to be added.
I'll get to it soon.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Ceramic mold inserts

Jim King <jimking3@...>
 

Ceramic inserts made via the SLA process are in their infancy. They are
so new to the RP world that very little info is available regarding life
expectancy, materials shot or geometry types that have been successfully
(or not) produced. The comments re: tooling costs still being closely
tied with traditional mold making (setting inserts, putting in ejector
pins, cutting runners, drilling gates, etc.) are very true. While the
core/cavity geometry is a major part of the mold making process, the
other "stuff" takes almost as much time to generate, depending on what
you're making. And, yes, replacing a cracked set of inserts or making a
new set of inserts because you goofed on shrinkage calculations or left
out a feature is far cheaper and faster than having to remake a hunk of
steel!

I **do** know from info provided so far that small geometry parts, like
needle tips with .005" radius, have been shot successfully using long
fiber-glass PP without any significant cavity breakdown. The molder
told me he got 1500 shots (in a 4 cavity mold) before the gate corners
and a small piece of text started wearing. With non-hostile materials,
like the styrene we all love, I expect longer mold life is likely. As
for "what" can be shot, the detail is strictly a matter of size,
geometry and the affects of the SLA layering process. Parts like wagon
wheels and driver centers could be candidates since the spokes on each
are elliptically shaped. Small features, like text, will likely be the
first victims of mold wear, according to my SLA house, as a result of
the plastic shrinking around the feature(s) and pulling it/them off
after repeated cycles.

There is no single method available to produce the quality we require in
our kits. Manufacturers are constantly pushing the envelope to use the
best methods available yet trying to keep affordability in check. As
was correctly stated, China's labor is getting higher by the day but
it's still far cheaper to send parts to China, have them assembled and
pad printed, then returned RTR in a pretty box than to do that here.
Kits are fast disappearing from hobby shelves. I've been told by 2 well
known dealers not to even bother trying to sell them a urethane flat kit
.. there's simply no market in their stores. The only way I can keep up
with the Jones' is to offer 1-pc bodies (cast bodies, not assembled flat
panels) and use RP to produce detailed patterns that can't be made any
other way. Perhaps ceramic inserts can be the next tool in our arsenal.

I applaud any discussion on this topic but I can only speak in
generalities, so please don't get upset when I won't answer questions
about specific methods or sources I use. I have no problem sharing
information when it will be used by hobbiests but when it can be used by
another manufacturer, that's where I have to stop. RP is my livelihood
and I won't jeopardize my family's well-being just to answer seemingly
harmless questions.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.
http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com/

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Re: Essential freight cars in RMC - 36' Stockcars

Charlie Vlk
 

I am having a master of a CB&Q SM16 made with the intention of having resin
castings made from it.
It is too early to make any declarations of how the project is going to turn
out but the masters could easily be
made in HO using the same processs since the CAD work is already done.
I should have samples of the N Scale master in a few weeks.
Charlie Vlk


Re: Essential freight cars in RMC

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

It would be nice to see if we can get a resin kit maker such as Al
Westerfield or Martin Lofton to do the PRR K8 stock cars as a flat kit.
This was the last wood body car that the Penn had prior to their
converting the X31 box cars into steel stock cars. It was also almost
as numerous as the ubiquitous K7a's which Broadway Limited brought out
recently.

I am sure if Al or Martin did the K8's that we would not have had the
problems that came with the BLI K7a's.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...

Richard Hendrickson wrote:

On Apr 22, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Clyde Williams wrote:


Is this a new poll? If so, how about a decent styrene 36' stock car,
open or solid ended, both would be better. As in other cars, the MDC
just doesn't cut it.
Bill Williams

Bill, AFAIK a 36' stock car in styrene isn't high on any manufacturer's
priority list for future production. However, resin kits ar ethe
subject ofTed's series in RMC, and Westerfield makes fine resin kits
for the SP/T&NO/NWP etc. 36' stock cars, which were the most numerous
cars of that type during the steam era, as well as for the MILW's 36'
stock cars, of which there were more than 3,000.

Other RRs that had large numbers of 36' stock cars were the Burlington
and the C&NW, and some day it would be nice to have resin kits for
those as well (the Q cars have been done in HO, but only in brass).

Richard Hendrickson





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Re: Online list of Sunshine kits

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

There is another list of Sunshine Kits. That is the All-Time List revised by Jim Hayes and posted on Ted Culotta's internet website "Steamfreightcars.com." Here is the link to the all-time list update that was posted for 2004:

http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/new%20products/sunshine/sunkits112003main.html

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Bill Sornsin wrote:

In the constructive spirit our moderator requests, you'll find an unofficial
but reasonably current Excel listing of Sunshine kits and pricing on the
group website at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/. It's old news for
some, but newer members may not have seen it. Click Files and scroll about
2/3 of the way down. No photos, but quite thorough.

I used it for a recent order which worked out great.

-- Bill in Seattle


P.s. Many Yahoo groups have invaluable information posted on their
corresponding websites. Spend some time trolling there, especially when you
first join; don't limit yourself to just the emails.




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Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

What does a Murphy solid steel roof look like?
I don't have much to go on, as far as photos go<
Check the Westerfield site, he has resin kits for these cars.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details

Mark Heiden
 

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@o...>
wrote:
On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Mark Heiden wrote:

Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13
boxcars:

1) What sort of roof were the cars delivered with?
Murphy solid steel (without rectangular panels)
Hi Richard,

Thanks for the reply. What does a Murphy solid steel roof look like?
I don't have much to go on, as far as photos go. It looks very
similar to the roof on USRA boxcars: flat panels with narrow, low-
relief seams.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden


Re: Rapid Protyping and advanced mold making

Charlie Vlk
 

Ceramic tooling is used for some injection molded plastic kits that are
commercially available in both HO and N Scale.
I've heard that the Beyers (???) horses are molded from ceramic molds made
by the same company that supplies tooling
to a couple of manufacturers that make those kits.
The finish and fit of the molds can be pretty good..... although AFAIK
ceramic tooling has not been used for rolling stock.
The tooling isn't good for large numbers of shots, but certainly enough for
one-railroad prototype freight cars of specialized
interest. And if you guess wrong new inserts can always be made to replace
the worn-out ones for a fraction of the cost
of having a damaged aluminum or steel insert repaired or replaced.
Charlie Vlk
Railroad Model Resources


Essential brake wheels

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Ted,

Thanks for the Brakewheel Primer on pages 98-99 in the May RMC. I've needed that for a long time.

SGL


Re: Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Apr 22, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Mark Heiden wrote:

Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcars:

1) What sort of roof were the cars delivered with?
Murphy solid steel (without rectangular panels)

2) What sort of roof walk was used?
Running boards and laterals were wood.

3) What model of power handbrake was used?
Ajax.

4) When were these cars delivered? I've seen both 1930 and 1931 as
delivery dates.
1931.

Richard Hendrickson


Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcar details

Mark Heiden
 

Hello everyone,

Just a few questions regarding the details of Santa Fe Bx-13 boxcars:

1) What sort of roof were the cars delivered with?
2) What sort of roof walk was used?
3) What model of power handbrake was used?
4) When were these cars delivered? I've seen both 1930 and 1931 as
delivery dates.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden


Last on the PM Hopper?

Justin Kahn
 

I went ahead and chose the SAG re-weigh datum, as one of the relatively late choices and both obvious and distinctive for PM; and as Richard Hendrickson raised the question of whether I could have mis-read the "WV" for "WY" (Wyoming Yard), I did check when I got to the backshop and it is indeed WV, so CDS may have misinterpreted prototype views of the cars in creating the lettering. Nonetheless, I have almost always been very pleased with the results from using their sets.
Jace Kahn

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