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Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Apr 30, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Ed Hawkins wrote:


On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:11 AM, Scott Seders wrote:


Ed:
What other roads had cars of this type?
Thanks,
Scott Seders

Scott,
Just SP/T&NO and C&EI as far as I know.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
Ed:

If there is a stencil drawing for the C&EI cars at the MOT, I'll gladly make decals (soon, too).

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: ERIE 78246

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:19 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:

Andy Carlson asked:
"Tim O'Connor on the baby boomer site posted a link to a photo
collection which had, among other gems, this Erie boxcar 78246. Can
anyone supply us with some info on this car?"
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=90346

Thanks to Bob Webber for sharing these photos!

Erie 78000-78499, 500 1937 AAR boxcars built June 1936 by ACF. Buckeye
ends; Viking roof. More specifics at
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html

Sunshine 18.1 (noted as "close-out" on Jim Hayes' list dated 1/21/2004)
models this car.
For those souls who purchased one of the 1932 ARA box car books, there is a builder's photo of one of these (no. 78249) in the Afterword on page 232.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Proto 2000 tank car

Dave Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

Des Norman wrote:
Hi all,
Could one of you knowledgable people please explain to a rookie
prototype modeller in Scotland what commodities would require to be
transported in an insulated tank car.

Can't say with certainty but I suspect any valuable liquid that has a low
evaporation point. Like alcohol, paint thinner, etc.

Dave Nelson


Re: Proto 2000 tank car

Des Norman
 

Hi all,
Could one of you knowledgable people please explain to a rookie prototype
modeller in Scotland what commodities would require to be transported in an
insulated tank car.

Many thanks,
Des Norman
Perth, Scotland


Re: IM AT&SF stock car kits.

Scott Pitzer
 

There were about 15 at The Whistle Stop the other day, some "K brake" and some "AB brake"
Scott Pitzer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Cheeks <Rcheeks666@mindspring.com>
Sent: Apr 30, 2005 1:42 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] IM AT&SF stock car kits.

Where can I buy these kits. I didn't pay attention earlier assuming
I could walk into Trainquest and pick them up. When I was there
an hour ago I was told they are not out yet and they wouldn't be
available undecorated. Anyone have these in stock, Andy Carlson
maybe?

Thanks in Advance

Robert Cheeks
Riverside CA





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Re: IM AT&SF stock car kits.

Robert Cheeks <Rcheeks666@...>
 

Where can I buy these kits. I didn't pay attention earlier assuming I could walk into Trainquest and pick them up. When I was there an hour ago I was told they are not out yet and they wouldn't be available undecorated. Anyone have these in stock, Andy Carlson maybe?

Thanks in Advance

Robert Cheeks
Riverside CA


Re: ERIE 78246

Tom or Gail Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Meaning, Tom, these five cars only. And for a limited duration, while the test was going on, no doubt.

SGL
Ah! The light goes on!

Thanks,

Tom Madden


Re: ERIE 78246

Schuyler Larrabee
 

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom or Gail Madden
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:01 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] ERIE 78246


Schuyler Larrabee:
[details deleted]
These cars operate between Chicago, Akron and Jamestown.
So. What was the one in the photo doing in Oakland CA coupled
to a Santa Fe Caswell gon in 1959??

Tom Madden

"Snug-up units" applied to trucks and cars stenciled test car on the following cars
78005
78041
78065
78115
78144
These cars operate between Chicago, Akron and Jamestown.>

Meaning, Tom, these five cars only. And for a limited duration, while the test was going on, no doubt.

SGL


Re: Flat car decks

Charles Hladik
 

Charles,
Goo WILL ATTACK PLASTIC and most styrene manufacturers recommend against
it. Goo does have it's place, I'm just not sure where.
Chuck Hladik


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Ed Hawkins
 

On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 08:11 AM, Scott Seders wrote:

Ed:
What other roads had cars of this type?
Thanks,
Scott Seders
Scott,
Just SP/T&NO and C&EI as far as I know.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: ERIE 78246

Andy Carlson
 

I very much appreciate the help on this car, and I
will contact Martin about getting one. Thanks to this
site and to Ben and Schuyler.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: ERIE 78246

Tom or Gail Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Schuyler Larrabee:
[details deleted]
These cars operate between Chicago, Akron and Jamestown.
So. What was the one in the photo doing in Oakland CA coupled to a Santa Fe Caswell gon in 1959??

Tom Madden


Re: ERIE 78246

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Built AC&F July & August 1936
41'-8 1/2" over strikers
Cu Ft: 3712
Ld Lmt 123100 (my photocopy of an ERIE diagram book says "see note 6" which is unfortunately hatched out to the degree that I
can't read it.)
Lt Wt 45900 (ditto)
Lot 1505
NY Air Brakes AB
(does this say "spec"? It's cut off on my copy) No. 5-CB
Youngstown Steel Door
Camel Bottom Hung door fixtures
Ends: Buckeye O.H. Steel 3/16" top, 1/4" bott
End load rating: .0509
Flooring: 1 3/4" Yellow Pine
General Drawing of car No. 139-11-258
Hand Brake: Ajax
End and side linings: 13/16" fir
Roof: Viking all steel #15 U. S. Gauge
Side bearing centers: 4'-2"
Sheathing: 10" C.B. Steel
Trucks
"Double Truss" for 78000-78149
Barber Stabilized for 78150-78249
National Type B for 78250-78499 and car No. 78120
Wheels, AAR single plate cast iron.
Equipped with Ride Control Trucks:
78000
78020
78021
78075
78081
78082
78088
78130
78140
78142

"Snug-up units" applied to trucks and cars stenciled test car on the following cars
78005
78041
78065
78115
78144
These cars operate between Chicago, Akron and Jamestown.

SGL

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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 12:05 PM
To: Steam Era
Subject: [STMFC] ERIE 78246

Tim O Connor on the baby boomer site posted a link to a photo
collection which had, among other gems, this Erie boxcar
78246. Can anyone supply us with some info on this car?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=90346


Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



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Re: Proto 2000 tank car

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Eric Petersson says:



I think you're missing Garrett's point. We prototype junkies tend to
buy these things by the dozen and then when we have what we need we
stop.

The vesties buy tend to buy the pretty colored one at a time.

So more of the black ones get sold to dealers up front. The colored
ones sell but over time. So the maufacturer ends up discounting them
to get rid of them.
Time is, of course, money.


I bet if you did a pretty colored car of the month club, well, maybe
not by that name, the great vestie rabble would go and subscribe to
it with abandon.
Perhaps. Buying the single car as usual I imagine. But...it's not really relevent to speculate on what might happen when data exists with regard to what DID happen. A manufacturer has to develop marketing strategies based on known results as much as possible.

Mike Brock


Re: ERIE 78246

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Andy Carlson asked:
"Tim O'Connor on the baby boomer site posted a link to a photo
collection which had, among other gems, this Erie boxcar 78246. Can
anyone supply us with some info on this car?"
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=90346

Thanks to Bob Webber for sharing these photos!

Erie 78000-78499, 500 1937 AAR boxcars built June 1936 by ACF. Buckeye
ends; Viking roof. More specifics at
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1937aarpdfmain.html

Sunshine 18.1 (noted as "close-out" on Jim Hayes' list dated 1/21/2004)
models this car.


Ben Hom


ERIE 78246

Andy Carlson
 

Tim O Connor on the baby boomer site posted a link to
a photo collection which had, among other gems, this
Erie boxcar 78246. Can anyone supply us with some info
on this car?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=90346


Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: F-70-7-- possible stand-in for C&EI?

Scott Seders
 

Ed Hawkins wrote

Scott,
The SP and C&EI cars are of the same design and are both included on the same AC&F general arrangement drawing. Last year I notified Bill McClung of Red Caboose about this and sent him a good scan of the C&EI car along with the painting specs. However, to date I've not seen any evidence of a C&EI model from RC.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
Ed:

What other roads had cars of this type?

Thanks,
Scott Seders


Re: Flat car decks

jerryglow2
 

I'd use a contact cement like Goo in spots where it won't ooze out
giving you time for positioning. Then use ACC along the edges or where
necessary. I would do most of the deck weatering then weather the
whole model once assembled.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Etheredge" <ceth512@e...> wrote:
I've enjoyed the posts concerning decks of flats and the weathering
of
the same.
I've acquired several RC SP/TNO flats with wooden decks. The
question
I have is what is the best adhesive to use to glue them to the
body?
It seems to me that any CA would set too quick to get the exact
placement needed. Goo is messy. What are your recomendations?
Also, I plan on weathering the decks before attaching them. Is this
the best way? Thanks

Charles Etheredge
Modeling the TNO in the 40's


Re: Flat car decks

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I will leave the adhesive question to others, finding it a sticky question, personally . . .

But, as to weathering . . .

When faced with this sort of situation, where there are two separate parts that can be painted/weathered separately, and
there are different weathering characteristics due to the different materials, I would do as you suggest, Charles, and
weather the decks before attaching them to the car. THEN, I'd work to integrate the deck and car with weathering, dirt
splashing on the underside, etc, so as to make the two parts look like they've lived together for quite some time . . .

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Etheredge
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:08 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Flat car decks

I've enjoyed the posts concerning decks of flats and the
weathering of the same.
I've acquired several RC SP/TNO flats with wooden decks. The
question I have is what is the best adhesive to use to glue
them to the body?
It seems to me that any CA would set too quick to get the exact
placement needed. Goo is messy. What are your recomendations?
Also, I plan on weathering the decks before attaching them. Is this
the best way? Thanks

Charles Etheredge
Modeling the TNO in the 40's





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