Tony, Thanks, I don't have his Tank Car Book, but I do have his AC&F

book and I found some diagrams that show my error in thinking. (For

that may be interested see page 48, it's a more modern car but the

is the same.)

Unfortunately, a picture of HPCX 1153 on the bottom of page 112 shows a
10,625 gallon, ICC 105-A-300-W, part of a 6 car lot, 1150-1155.

Does anyone know if the 8000 gallon cars continued to be leased by

after the arrive of the above mentioned cars in 1952?

I model 1957.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY





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Subject: [STMFC] B-50-22 series question
Tony,

These cars are listed in the 1993 RMC article as having Klasing
brakes, Apex steel roofwalks and Barber S2 trucks. However, the 1956
freight car roster reprint book published by the SPH&TS lists these as
being equipped with AAR double truss trucks with spring planks (eg:
Accurail truck).

My questions:
1.Which truck is correct? Where some sub groups of the B-50-22s with
the S2 which may not have been listed in the 1956 roster?
2.What are Klasing brakes (I suspect that these are similar to the
Ajax type)?
3. Did all these cars have steel roofwalks?

The P2k cars come with plankless trucks,wood roofwalks and Ajax brakes
as on their A-50-14 series DD cars. Is this combination in any way
correct for either series of cars?

Related to this subject, plans are in work for a 2-part article on
Burlington's XA auto cars to be published in Railway Prototype
Cyclopedia. The wood-sheathed cars through the XA-14s is planned for
Volume 12 to be followed in Volume 13 with the all-steel XA-15 and
XA-16 cars built 1941 through 1946. Will advise the STMFC as the
completion time for Vol. 12 nears.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

Stefan Lerché wrote:

These cars are listed in the 1993 RMC article as having Klasing
brakes, Apex steel roofwalks and Barber S2 trucks. However, the 1956
freight car roster reprint book published by the SPH&TS lists these as
being equipped with AAR double truss trucks with spring planks (eg:
Accurail truck).
My questions:
1.Which truck is correct? Where some sub groups of the B-50-22s with
the S2 which may not have been listed in the 1956 roster?

Stefan, the Barber S2 feature is a bolster snubber. It is not a
truck. Many truck makers licensed the Barber feature and included it in
their proprietary trucks. Thus a buyer like SP could specify S2 trucks
and only mean trucks with S2 snubbers included. The B-50-22 class,
however, did not have S2 trucks. This is one of several (minor) errors
in the 1993 RMC articles which will be corrected in the box car volume
of my series, now in progress.
"AAR" likewise refers only to the sideframe pattern in a
general way; individual manufacturers implemented it in somewhat
varying fashion as to appearance (which modelers care about), but the
mechanical specs. were AAR. The trucks for this entire class were AAR
double-truss trucks from American Steel Foundries, and they included
Simplex spring snubbers. The SP order summary does not mention spring
planks, for the very good reason that at that time (1941) the spring
plank was standard. Spring plankless trucks were unusual and would
merit mention.

2.What are Klasing brakes (I suspect that these are similar to the
Ajax type)?

Klasing is a make of handbrake. They are not the same as Ajax.
See any Cyc in the 1937 to 1953 period.

3. Did all these cars have steel roofwalks?

Yes, Apex as you list.

The P2k cars come with plankless trucks,wood roofwalks and Ajax brakes
as on their A-50-14 series DD cars. Is this combination in any way
correct for either series of cars?

See my volume 3: all three features are wrong for this
class. The cars had AAR trucks with spring planks (half Scullin, half
Bettendorf), Apex steel running boards, and Equipco handbrakes.

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