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Re: Tony Thompson & Scale Weights

Tim O'Connor
 

A 60,000 lb. car would then weigh 689 lbs. in HO?
Paul Hillman
Paul, objects have 3 dimensions, so 87.1 x 87.1 x 87.1
equals (approx) 660776, so a 200,000 lb loaded prototype
car in should weigh 4.84 ounces in HO scale. The NMRA
recommendations are in that ballpark.

Tim O.


Tony Thompson & Scale Weights

Paul Hillman
 

Tony,

I understand you have a Phd in metallurgy? Maybe you could answer, or
comment on a "dumb ( ? )" question I've often thought about, but never
tried or researched?

Say, in HO scale, 87.1:1, we physically scale-down the prototype
dimensions by that ratio. What if the car were built of the exact same
materials as the prototype, would the weight scale-down by 87.1 also?

A 60,000 lb. car would then weigh 689 lbs. in HO?

Paul Hillman


Re: paint removal

Marcelo Lordeiro <mrcustom@...>
 

As Tim said brake fluid is dangerous to some plastics.
I have used "Pinhosol", I'm not sure if in the US is the same name or Pinesol.
Works on Athearn stuff.
Marcelo Lordeiro

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>> I have stripped my Stewart FTs for the 3rd time with brake fluid.
>> Two things to remember. It's cheap and dangerous. Remember, Model
>> railroading is FUN and dangerous. Rob Manley

Brake fluid is not dangerous, although like most things you don't
want it in your eyes, mouth or on your hands -- It will remove the
oils and moisture from your hands temporarily. It can be instantly
washed off with drygas or windshield washer fluid but it will make
your skin as dry as paper. And it ATTACKS rubber -- many styrenes
include a form of rubber in them (e.g. Kato, AHM) which is why
they become weak and brittle.

Tim O.




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Re: paint removal

Tim O'Connor
 

I have stripped my Stewart FTs for the 3rd time with brake fluid.
Two things to remember. It's cheap and dangerous. Remember, Model
railroading is FUN and dangerous. Rob Manley
Brake fluid is not dangerous, although like most things you don't
want it in your eyes, mouth or on your hands -- It will remove the
oils and moisture from your hands temporarily. It can be instantly
washed off with drygas or windshield washer fluid but it will make
your skin as dry as paper. And it ATTACKS rubber -- many styrenes
include a form of rubber in them (e.g. Kato, AHM) which is why
they become weak and brittle.

Tim O.


Re: paint removal

Marcelo <mrcustom@...>
 

Plastic and brass.
Marcelo Lordeiro

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For plastic?Armand Premo
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> The Scalecoat paint remover is a very good product.
> Marcelo
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Re: paint removal

Marcelo <mrcustom@...>
 

It's not a lacquer solvent but works on the lacquer based paints.
I 've been having good results even on the Kato stuff.
Keep the shell for half an hour deep into the remover then scrub with a tooth brush. You will remove all the paint.
Marcelo Lordeiro

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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] paint removal



At 06:36 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote:

>Whoa..Did you mean Scalecoat ll paint remover?Armand Premo

No, he didn't. It's not a lacquer solvent; it won't attack
the styrene. It's not effective against some water base paints
or the notorious Kato paint which seems to resist most every
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Re: paint removal

Marcelo <mrcustom@...>
 

They have one type only , I'm not sure they changed the name. I've been using it for more than 15 years.
You have to take care with some old Atlas locomotives made by Kato , don't let them for more than 1 hour into the product.
Marcelo Lordeiro

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Whoa..Did you mean Scalecoat ll paint remover?Armand Premo
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] paint removal


> The Scalecoat paint remover is a very good product.
> Marcelo
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Subject: paint removal

Mike Calvert
 

Castrol Super Clean Degreaser is highly recommended by modelers in plastic- aircraft, armour, etc.
Available at Walmart for $5 a gallon.

See the comparative evaluation at
http://www.bonediggers.com/1-3/strip/strip.html

Mike Calvert


Re: Stupid eBay Tricks

Eric
 

The problem with escalating OOP kit prices is that eventually the
price is going to reach the price that:

1. If you only need a few you're going to do without.

or

2. If it's a car you need a bunch of you're going to buy one and make
your own copies and make as many as you need. Yeah, it takes a bit of
futzing to make up for shrinkage but it can be done.

I have a friend who used to market body shells for Matchbox,
Hotwheels and assorted slot cars that he shrunk down to closer to
actual HO scale.


Eric Petersson


Re: Stupid eBay Tricks

Eric
 

David Ball wrote:

"As an aside, not living in the US, I am prepared to pay an inflated
price for a Sunshine kit on eBay because:
1. You actually know your going to get it in a week."

That's not necessarily so.

I bought a Detail Associates gondola last year off Ebay. I never got
it. The seller sent it and had a delivery receipt from the USPS.
However, it was one of their delivery confirmation where no one is
required to sign for the package. Is it's the equvilent of the old'
the dog ate my homework' chestnut. It might actualy have been
delivered as the quality of the management of my former abode left a
lot to be desire. I just didn't get it.

It was also compounded by the seller never responding to my repeated
[month and a half] emails as to when he was going to send me my kit.
The guy was nice enough to offer me another kit to replace the lost
one. So I'm the owner of an old Walthers stamped side HW coach kit.
It's okay but not what I wanted.

Just because you win the auction and have the item sent to you
doesn't mean you're ever going to see it in your hot little hands.


Eric Petersson


Re: More Color Interpreting

dave w
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Fred Boucher" <jptrr@y...> wrote:
More Color Interpreting

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bellmanwm_1.htm

Enjoy,

Fred Boucher
Nice one Fred.
The New Zealanders loved theirs too, the only 'armour' we had until
'43 (and wore them out till they fell apart I understand) and wire and
twine wouldnt keep them running any longer ...
regards,
dave whaaa...
{objects to using full names because of privacy reasons]


Re: Stupid eBay Tricks

oliver
 

Yeah, even by his standards that must have been a windfall. The guy is
fantastic, but that's crazy!
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@c...> wrote:

Clark, you may have missed this one: A detailed Walthers spine car
with 5 nice trailers... for $810!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5989346251

Wait a minute, I wasn't involved in this thread. Anyway when I buy a
Sunshine kit I put it togther. What are they worth??
Clark Propst


Re: paint removal

Rob & Bev Manley
 

Eric,
I have stripped my Stewart FTs for the 3rd time with brake fluid.
They were undecs originally and I've painted them with a Testore Model Master enamel mix first and lastly with Poly Scale Antique white.
The Antique White is real close to Genesis CB&Q Aluminum. At least to me.
The point is that it didn't fracture the Shell's plastic or the Evergreen Styrene plastic I used to fill the gaps in the dynamic hatch. I've had break fluid ruin some plastic and learned the hard way to NOT use it in an Ultrasonic unit. Some old AHM stuff turned into a horrible mess.
Always wear gloves, don't get it on your skin.
It won't blast that goop Walthers used on thier SP SW1 and some ot the newer painted engines or cars. I've had good luck with Branchline boxcars and Pullman cars. Some colors are harder to strip than others like the MEC yellow car, FC reds usually strip fine.
It will work good at first and deteriorate in strength if left open. I put mine in a tupperware type container.
Two things to remember. It's cheap and dangerous.
Remember, Model railroading is FUN
and dangerous.
Rob Manley

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Subject: [STMFC] paint removal


Need help in removing paint from plastic shells.

I know it isn't steam freight cars but i have a Stewart diesel sheel that i
need to strip.

Any help on what to use?

eric






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Re: Stainless Steel Shipping

Allen Rueter <allen@...>
 

Keith,
Having worked in Cold Rolled Finishing at USS Gary works,
I can answer the 1st part, both (coil & sheet), it's up to the customer.

Some steel goes out naked, some oiled, some wrapped in heavy paper.

I can take a guess at the second part too, it's up to the customer,
if the customer only has an overhead crane, shipping in a box car
could be a problem for unloading.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 10:35:40PM -0500, Keith Jordan wrote:
Does anyone know how stainless steel was shipped in the early 1950s? Coils?
Sheets? Boxcars? Flats? Gons?

Thanks in advance,

Keith Jordan
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Stainless Steel Shipping

Keith Jordan
 

Does anyone know how stainless steel was shipped in the early 1950s? Coils?
Sheets? Boxcars? Flats? Gons?

Thanks in advance,

Keith Jordan


Re: paint removal

armprem
 

For plastic?Armand Premo

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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] paint removal


The Scalecoat paint remover is a very good product.
Marcelo
----- Original Message -----
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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:56 PM
Subject: [STMFC] paint removal


Need help in removing paint from plastic shells.

I know it isn't steam freight cars but i have a Stewart diesel sheel
that i
need to strip.

Any help on what to use?

eric






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Re: Stupid eBay Tricks

David Ball
 

You can ask my high school English teacher about my spelling!

Dave


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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Anthony Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 6:18 p.m.
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Stupid eBay Tricks


David Ball wrote:

Call me a cold hard capitalist, but if the bidder is prepared to bid
the
price, they must be happy (at that point) to pay the price (and we
haven't
seen the end price yet!).
It would only take a quick Goggle search to find Al's website . . .
Ah yes, the mind goggles. <g>

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Re: USRA Composite Gondolas

Justin Kahn
 

Yes, IM also made kits (as well as selling assembled ones) for them in O scale before the line was sold to Atlas; there are still quite a few for sale out there, particularly the unlettered ones.
That is the best way to go; otherwise, Walthers made a wood kit many years ago that doesn't look half-bad with a little care in assembly and some extra details, and WAY back, there was a set of aluminum castings for one in O scale (one just sold on ebay--the claim was that it was ScaleCraft, but I don't think so).
Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


Subject: RE: Model for USRA 50T Gon

Mike Turner asked:
"On the home page for steamfreightcars, there is a picture of a USRA
Composite Drop Bottom Gondola, SOU no. 198577. It appears most USRA gon
models are of 70T cars. What would be a good starting point for a model
of this 50T car?"

You didn't say which scale - Intermountain #41699 in HO; Intermountain
#61698/61699 in N. Listed stock numbers are undecorated kits.

Ben Hom
Ben,

It was a deliberately scale neutral question, hoping for o or ho. :) Thanks.

Mike Turner
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More Color Interpreting

rick buche
 

More Color Interpreting

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Enjoy,

Fred Boucher


Re: paint removal

Tim O'Connor
 

At 06:36 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote:

Whoa..Did you mean Scalecoat ll paint remover?Armand Premo
No, he didn't. It's not a lacquer solvent; it won't attack
the styrene. It's not effective against some water base paints
or the notorious Kato paint which seems to resist most every
kind of dissolver.

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