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Re: Fw: [L&N] WofA/A&WP Boxcar info

Richard Hendrickson

#477

Warren, thanks for forwarding this - good information!  I'm not heavily
into southeastern RRsd (since I model the Santa Fe in Southern California)
but I'll probably model at least one of these cars, so I appreciate having
good data on the paint and lettering.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520

Re: Hart Selective Service ballast cars

Mike Brock <brockm@...>

#476

Dave Nelson writes:

As for the late steam era, the WP acquired another series of ballast carsin
the 50's (too late for my interests) -- also rather short.  I believe oneof
these cars is at the museum in Portola, CA. where, like everything else
there, one can crawl under, over, and into this car to your heart'scontent.
Perhaps so...but one could easily die of hunger while traveling
there...given that the owners of that neat restaurant near Quincy have
chosen to camouflage their building to either the appearance of a service
station, post office or small zoo.

Mike Brock

Hart Selective Service ballast cars

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>

#475

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-----Original Message-----The Western Pacific also had several groups of these, or similar cars. I
have long wanted several, and would be glad to help you or a
manufacturer with photos or other information. I could also use some SPs
as well.The earliest WP cars having ballast drop doors were in the 10301-10600
series of cars and were shorties - a meer 30' 2" IL.  Has luck has it these
cars are virtually identical to a SP series of cars (no doubt both were
acquired about the same time) in the 13088-13599 series (MWB-50-5?) so for
modeling purposes any photographic or dimensional evidence of one is
probably good for the other.

The WP called these 'coal cars' but I have no doubt they spent much, if not
all, of their existance hauling broken rock out of Oroville and/or smooth
gravel & sand out of the San Ramon valley, which, for the WP, were
significant sources of carloadings.

Some years ago I took a saw to the 40' MDC ballast hopper and sliced out 10'
and lowered the sides a few inches.  The drop doors are wrong, the rivits
are grapefruit, and the slope sheet is too shallow (noticible by the too
great of a height of the end interior wall), but the length and height of
the finished model were very close to right and the side panel count was
right, so it's in the ballpark.  For building a fleet of good-enuf cars, it
might serve (especially as the task was not that difficult), but it would
not stand up to the closer inspection one expects from this crowd.

As for the late steam era, the WP acquired another series of ballast cars in
the 50's (too late for my interests) -- also rather short.  I believe one of
these cars is at the museum in Portola, CA. where, like everything else
there, one can crawl under, over, and into this car to your heart's content.

Dave Nelson

Marklin UP freight cars??

Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>

#474

According to dunver@iname.com, Marklin will be producing some HO scale UP
freight cars.  Does anyone have more info?

[QUOTE]

"The boxcars will be
released in ten numbers sporting 1940's-50's UP paint schemes, the
hoppers are an unusual outside braced design which is claimed to be a
UP prototype, and the CA3/CA4 caboose will be postwar yellow with a
3000-series number.  Count on big bucks, but the models look very
good.  More later."

[END QUOTE]

Regards,

-Jeff

-- 
Jeff Aley, Development Engineer            jaley@pcocd2.intel.com
Graphics Components Division
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533

Fw: [L&N] WofA/A&WP Boxcar info

ibs4421@...

#473

Steam-Era Gize,
                          I didn't know if any of ya'll could make use of
this info.  I think Andrew made a typo in that he meant a note on 5685 only
instead of 5686.  If any of you are interested in these cars, enjoy!

Warren



Warren,

I have a paint/lettering diagram (1941) of these WofA/A&WP boxcars. It's
interesting to note that both aluminum and mineral red were in use from the
beginning. Here are the specifics:

Series                      # of boxcars         Road      Lot
17300-17359           60                        WofA     5685
37300-37339           40                        A&WP    5685
17400-17464           65                         WofA     5717
37400-37459           60                         A&WP    5717
19800-19899          100                       GARR    5717

Note for Lot 5686 only:
"All letters & numerals to be 'Roman' except monogram. Letters & numbering
on sides to be black, and on ends to be white." [Ends and roof black; sides
aluminum]

Note for Lot 5717 only:
"All letters & numerals to be 'Roman' except monogram. Letters & numbers to
be white." [Entire car mineral red]

Andrew Waldo