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Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

armprem
 

How much of a job would it be to have companies add "matching paint" to the
information supplied with a model?Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "bierglaeser" <bierglaeser@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match


Two good question. I'd like to know, too.

This post brought a question to my mind. A few times I have gone to
the paint store to get paint matched for some project around the
ranch. I was always told they needed a sample at least the size of a
quarter for their computerized paint matching gizmotron. I was
always satisfied with their matches. Better than have 'new' paint,
they matched the existing paint in its faded, aged or dirty
condition. Very helpful for patching.

Has such a machine every been used to solve exactly the sort of
problem Rob has? I realize that paint store paint won't work on a
model but ...

Gene Green
Out in the West Texas Town of El Paso

--- In STMFC@..., Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@s...> wrote:

I've been working at adding a pile of ACR rivets to a P2K 50' car
to model
SSW 20067 as seen in Vancouver in 1946. So far I have managed to
save the
paint/lettering. It was a bit mind numbing, but over a month or
so it was
do-able, and I'll consider trying it again some time.

After completing the rivets, I noticed the deaper side sill beneath
the
doors in some of the photos that members of this list kindly
provided last
January, and added a strip of bright white styrene to the bottom
edge of the
car sides. Not very nice to look at!

So two questions:

1) what colour/brand of paint is a decent match to the P2K model?
It looks
like a kind of brownish tuscan red, more than an oxide or mineral
red colour
to my eyes. I'd prefer an acrylic, but will live with anything
that is a
good match. (By the time the car is well weathered like SSW 20067,
exactness isn't required anyway, but I thought I'd ask in case
someone has
taken this path before.)

2) are there decals that will allow me to remove the last two
digits of the
model car number, and re-decal in a style and size that matches, or
is this
a hopeless plan? If so, what decal set would be a good replacement
for the
whole number?

Thanks in advance

Rob Kirkham








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Re: N'ville Aftermath

blair kooistra <bkooistra@...>
 

Clark wrote:
"I was just scanning through the latest message list at YAhoo groups. I see lots of messages about Martin's stuff, but little about the rest of the meet. I'm curious as to what people thought of the 'vendors day' this year. I picked up Gene's new reefer book (which is well worth the discounted price) I also got some of Ted's stuff. Has anyone tried his decals yet? I didn't get a chance to ask if you could order the new resin kits there."

Since you asked. . .

I thought the vendors day was GREAT. It was a super opportunity to see products discussed on this and other lists that really have no chance of making it into my local hobby retailer's store. I loaded up on Modelers Choice stuff and appreciated seeing the Southern Car & Foundry Harriman cars.

The only nit I had to pick: I realize schedules change due to unforseen circumstances, but Thursday we busted our humps to get back from picking a member of the group up from O-Hare in time to be back for the advertised 4pm opening of the Sunshine room. . . we got there at 4:05, and discovered that it'd been open for a couple of hours already, and at least a couple of the cars I'd really wanted to purchase had already been sold out. I was later told by a veteran Naperville attendee that it is "normal" for Martin to open up the room earlier than advertised. I guess if that's "normal", then I wonder why isn't the ACTUAL time the room will open advertised? Or does that just give me a leg up on next year's first-time attendees in getting Sunshine cars in 2006??

Other than that, really enjoyed the weekend. Some AWESOME modeling, and I'm certainly motivated to work harder on my own projects!

--blair kooistra
fort worth, TX


Coupler gearbox.

Arnold van Heyst
 

Sirs,

What is the prototypically correct coupler gearbox for the ARA X-29,
1924 X-29, and 1937 AAR boxcar?
Kadee #78 perhaps?

Regards,
Arnold
Netherlands.


Re: Prototype matches for Champ HG-105 NYC gondola decals

Captain Dudley
 

Mark:
I have several of those sets and they do include the NYC reporting marks as
well as the P&LE.


Mike Dudley


Re: Intermountain stock car trucks

Victor Rance
 

Hi Steve,

I had problems with mine initially (one in particular) and found that on one
truck the wheels were out of round and not square to the axle. It would not
stay on the track.

Changed the wheels/axles on that truck for a pair of P2K's and no further
problems. Also ran "The Tool" reamer in all bearing holes on all cars to
clean them up (I do this as a matter of course with all new rolling stock).

As usual ymmv.

Regards,

Victor Rance, Adelaide, South Australia

Modeling the Santa Fe Howard, KS, Branch

-----Original Message-----

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Steve Sandifer

Sent: Sunday, 6 November 2005 11:56 AM

To: STMFC@...

Subject: [STMFC] Intermountain stock car trucks





I have had a lot of problems keeping my ATSF Intermountain stock cars on the
track. I have loosened the truck screws but that has not corrected the
problem. Anyone else have that problem. What trucks are a good replacement?
______________ J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
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Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918

Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX
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P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series decals

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Here is another way of expressing my question regarding the decals that might be used to model this series of 50' single door cars: does anyone have a set of the microscale 87-38 50' double door box car SSW decal set? Likewise the 87-219 assorted freight cars from the 70's SSW set?

Or how about the Champ SSW boxcar decal, SHS-216?

Or the Herald King Cotton Belt sets: B-570, B-571, B-572 or B-573

If so, and if the car numbers are in white, can you please measure the height and width of the car number decals.

Rob Kirkham


Re: Railroad magazines, journals: Free.

George Hollwedel <georgeloop1338@...>
 

Denny,

Several years worth of magazines can be fit into one of the Priority Flat Rate boxes and be shipped for $7.70, beats media mail even! I shipped 17-18 pounds this way once.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:
Pardon the multiple postings:

I am significantly reducing inventory and will be getting rid of the following:

TRAINS magazines, c. 1970-1999. Most years are complete.
LOCOMOTIVE & RAILWAY PRESERVATION #'s 1-54 (I think that all are
there), 1986-95.
RAILFAN & RAILROAD. 2000-2004.

These are all free as a group only at this time FOB Sacramento.

If there are no takers, all will be retired to the recycling bin.

Please Note: Shipping costs for bulk magazines can be expensive.

If interested, please contact me only off line.

Thanks!

Denny
--
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Sacramento, California




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Intermountain stock car trucks

Steve Sandifer <jssand@...>
 

I have had a lot of problems keeping my ATSF Intermountain stock cars on the track. I have loosened the truck screws but that has not corrected the problem. Anyone else have that problem. What trucks are a good replacement?
______________
J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer
mailto:steve.sandifer@...
Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918
Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417


Railroad magazines, journals: Free.

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Pardon the multiple postings:

I am significantly reducing inventory and will be getting rid of the following:

TRAINS magazines, c. 1970-1999. Most years are complete.
LOCOMOTIVE & RAILWAY PRESERVATION #'s 1-54 (I think that all are there), 1986-95.
RAILFAN & RAILROAD. 2000-2004.

These are all free as a group only at this time FOB Sacramento.

If there are no takers, all will be retired to the recycling bin.

Please Note: Shipping costs for bulk magazines can be expensive.

If interested, please contact me only off line.

Thanks!

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, California


Re: Glue

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Nope, but I'm interested for exactly that application. Folks should be aware that Clark missed a
"dot" after the www, which made the link not work. It's really:

http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=286

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On
Behalf Of Clark Propst
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 2:29 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Glue

Has anyone tried this stuff? I friend has had good luck
fastening Kadee running boards with it.
Clark Propst

http://wwwtapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=286





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Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

Two good question. I'd like to know, too.

This post brought a question to my mind. A few times I have gone to
the paint store to get paint matched for some project around the
ranch. I was always told they needed a sample at least the size of a
quarter for their computerized paint matching gizmotron. I was
always satisfied with their matches. Better than have 'new' paint,
they matched the existing paint in its faded, aged or dirty
condition. Very helpful for patching.

Has such a machine every been used to solve exactly the sort of
problem Rob has? I realize that paint store paint won't work on a
model but ...

Gene Green
Out in the West Texas Town of El Paso

--- In STMFC@..., Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@s...> wrote:

I've been working at adding a pile of ACR rivets to a P2K 50' car
to model
SSW 20067 as seen in Vancouver in 1946. So far I have managed to
save the
paint/lettering. It was a bit mind numbing, but over a month or
so it was
do-able, and I'll consider trying it again some time.

After completing the rivets, I noticed the deaper side sill beneath
the
doors in some of the photos that members of this list kindly
provided last
January, and added a strip of bright white styrene to the bottom
edge of the
car sides. Not very nice to look at!

So two questions:

1) what colour/brand of paint is a decent match to the P2K model?
It looks
like a kind of brownish tuscan red, more than an oxide or mineral
red colour
to my eyes. I'd prefer an acrylic, but will live with anything
that is a
good match. (By the time the car is well weathered like SSW 20067,
exactness isn't required anyway, but I thought I'd ask in case
someone has
taken this path before.)

2) are there decals that will allow me to remove the last two
digits of the
model car number, and re-decal in a style and size that matches, or
is this
a hopeless plan? If so, what decal set would be a good replacement
for the
whole number?

Thanks in advance

Rob Kirkham


Re: Soo Line SS Boxcar

Jerry <jrs060@...>
 

Dennis and Jim, it is my understanding that Sunshine (Martin)
is indeed going to do multiple versions of the Soo Line
"Sawtooth" box cars. They will all be the 6 foot door opening
later cars, with the different steel ends and radial roof. I
had given Martin photos of the different versions, and Frank
Hodina has been to the Illinois Railway Museum to see the
existing cars. So there is no conflict with the 5 foot door
version that the Soo Line Historical & Technical Society is
going to re-release.

I have been aware of this project for about 3 years now
and have been trying to feed as much information to Martin as
I can. Talking with Frank and people at Naperville about it
is my understanding that it's going to be a little longer in
the finishing of the patterns, as a kitchen remodeling project
got in the way!

Say Dennis I wonder if you could clear up some misinformation
on the painting of the cars. When did the Soo Line stop
painting the black herald backround on the "Dollar Sign" logo?
I'm thinkin it was in the late 1940's, just before the change
to that awful large "SOO LINE" logo on the steel house cars?
Many ex-Soo Liner's hated the large lettering as I do myself,
but you know we all loved the old "Dollar Sign".

Thank You for Helping,

Jerry Stewart
Chicago, Ill.








--- In STMFC@..., Dennis Storzek <dstorzek@e...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., "Jim and Lisa Hayes"
<jimandlisa97225@v...>
wrote:
>
> I hope when Sunshine introduces their announced but not released
new version
> of the saw tooth car they do multiple versions. Since I have the
original
> Dennis Storzek version (still a great model) I'd like a
different one, maybe
> the 6 ft door, arch roof car.
>
> Jim Hayes
> Portland Oregon

I didn't know these had been announced. I'm under the impression
that these
are going to be the mid / late twenties arch roof cars; my old kit
modeled
the early twenties cars with fish belly center sills. I know that
FH is
aware that there is one of the 1929 cars at the Illinois Railway
Museum,
and I provided some detail close-ups of a 1926 car with corrugated
ends
that is preserved in the Twin Cities area. Hopefully, they'll do
both.

Speaking of my old kits, the Soo Line Historical & Technical
Society owns
the rights to them now, and intends to re-release them, except I've
been
dying on the job. We've had Grandt Line tool new double rung sill
steps for
them and the parts are in, now I just need to get my fanny in gear
to
combine the patterns into a one piece body.


Dennis Storzek


P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

I've been working at adding a pile of ACR rivets to a P2K 50' car to model SSW 20067 as seen in Vancouver in 1946. So far I have managed to save the paint/lettering. It was a bit mind numbing, but over a month or so it was do-able, and I'll consider trying it again some time.

After completing the rivets, I noticed the deaper side sill beneath the doors in some of the photos that members of this list kindly provided last January, and added a strip of bright white styrene to the bottom edge of the car sides. Not very nice to look at!

So two questions:

1) what colour/brand of paint is a decent match to the P2K model? It looks like a kind of brownish tuscan red, more than an oxide or mineral red colour to my eyes. I'd prefer an acrylic, but will live with anything that is a good match. (By the time the car is well weathered like SSW 20067, exactness isn't required anyway, but I thought I'd ask in case someone has taken this path before.)

2) are there decals that will allow me to remove the last two digits of the model car number, and re-decal in a style and size that matches, or is this a hopeless plan? If so, what decal set would be a good replacement for the whole number?

Thanks in advance

Rob Kirkham


Glue

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

Has anyone tried this stuff? I friend has had good luck fastening Kadee running boards with it.
Clark Propst

http://wwwtapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=286


Re: N'ville atfermath

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Bob's Photos and Mainline Photos were set up in their rooms, with chairs if
you could find an empty one.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

---
I thought the vendor area was great, but I kinda liked the old way
for the photo vendors, where you could sit in chairs and view the
books.

Dan Stainton
---


Re: D&H RS11.

Gregg Mahlkov <mahlkov@...>
 

Arnold,

Since in the period that the D&H used RS11's painted that way (after the cutoff time of the list of 1960) the furthest West the D&H operated was Binghamton, NY, and the furthest East the UP operated was Omaha, NE, the two roads' locomotives would very rarely if ever have been seen together.

Gregg Mahlkov

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arnold" <mrdata1968@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: [STMFC] D&H RS11.


Sirs,

When did this engine (D&H RS11) came into service in this paintscheme?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/433-30260

And again........did it also travelled with U.P. engines?

Regards,
Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.







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Re: N'ville atfermath

Rob Adams
 

I share Mont's sentiments. If only a guy didn't have to live within his means. The vendor area was excellent. Stan Rydarowicz and Mark Vaughan had their excellent wares. Al Westerfield was there with a nice selection of his line and some great new kits. There were several photo vendors, some of the better known mid-west train dealers, a smattering of RR historical societies, and several individuals. The only bad thing about it was that I skipped several clinics as a result.
Rob Adams

Montford Switzer wrote:

I though the vendor area was just great. I had to get out of there
quick though as I was finding things I needed or didn't know I needed
faster that I felt I could afford or consume them. Good vendors
generally tailored to our needs and all in one room.
I liked it.

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Clark Propst
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:50 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] N'ville atfermath

I was just scanning through the latest message list at YAhoo groups. I
see lots of messages about Martin's stuff, but little about the rest of
the meet.

I'm curious as to what people thought of the 'vendors day' this year. I
picked up Gene's new reefer book (which is well worth the discounted
price) I also got some of Ted's stuff. Has anyone tried his decals yet?
I didn't get a chance to ask if you could order the new resin kits
there.

Thanks for your thoughts,
Clark Propst


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Wellman, IA
steamera@...
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http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com


Re: N'ville atfermath

Dan Stainton
 

---
I thought the vendor area was great, but I kinda liked the old way
for the photo vendors, where you could sit in chairs and view the
books.

Dan Stainton



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Re: N'ville atfermath

joe binish <joebinish@...>
 

Clark,
I finished a 37 box in the Southern silver monogram scheme just this past
week, the decals were superb.
Joe Binish


Re: N'ville atfermath

Montford Switzer <ZOE@...>
 

I though the vendor area was just great. I had to get out of there
quick though as I was finding things I needed or didn't know I needed
faster that I felt I could afford or consume them. Good vendors
generally tailored to our needs and all in one room.
I liked it.

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Clark Propst
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:50 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] N'ville atfermath

I was just scanning through the latest message list at YAhoo groups. I
see lots of messages about Martin's stuff, but little about the rest of
the meet.

I'm curious as to what people thought of the 'vendors day' this year. I
picked up Gene's new reefer book (which is well worth the discounted
price) I also got some of Ted's stuff. Has anyone tried his decals yet?
I didn't get a chance to ask if you could order the new resin kits
there.

Thanks for your thoughts,
Clark Propst









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