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sawtooth car variations was Re: Soo Line SS Boxcar

jerryglow2
 

Anyone know if there's a possibility he'll produce it as MP (actually
IGN & StLB&M) versions since he did a kitbash article in RMC years ago
to do these cars using the then available Storzak kit?

Jerry Glow


Re: N'ville Aftermath

jerryglow2
 

Another good reason for a web presence or some way of polling those
for their wants like Al Westerfield does.

Jerry Glow


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tony Thompson <thompsonmarytony@s...>
wrote:
Every year, Martin bemoans his inability to outguess the
crowd
as to what will be hot. This year was no exception. You can be quite
sure he would bring WAY more of the hot new items if he knew which
ones
they were.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@s...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Eastern Car Works Trucks was: NC&StL flat car (Tichy) trucks

artrich999@...
 

Cape Line trucks are the old M. Dale Newton Red Ball line.

---
Art Richardson
Clinton, MS


Re: Fortunes

Peter Weiglin
 

Greg Martin asked:

Okay next question... How do you make a small fortune in the Model Railroad hobby Industry?
= = =

That's easy -- you start with a LARGE fortune.

Peter Weiglin


Re: Equipment registers

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

The effective date for submissions was approximately 60 days prior to
the cover date depending on which road was submitting the information,
therefore that would be October 31, 1949 for the PRR or November 1, 1949
for the NYC. I have found that this lag between the information cut-off
date and the quarterly cover date to hold true for all the registers
that I have on the shelf. You will find that the ORER's effective date,
printed on the left side of the cover, would be the first of the month,
but the issue date was nine days later on the tenth of the month (for
example: Effective Date - January 1, 1950; Issue Date - January 10, 1950).

As Gregg had stated, there had to be enough time to get the information
into the agent's hands, do the proofing and set up, typeset the book,
then print it. Then it had to be disseminated to those whose work was
proscribed by the information it contained.

In regard to Ian's remark that some railroads dated their submissions,
he is correct, so you may add the PRR to the list of those that did.

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu


Ian Cranstone wrote:

On 1-Nov-05, at 2:48 PM, ajfergusonca wrote:



I have a question that should have a simple answer. The equipment
registers are referred to as July 1958 for example. What was the
cutoff date for new data?


There was a time when some of the large entries would provide an actual
effective date for their roster (I believe the New York Central system
did so), and I seem to recall that generally their effective date was
about a month before the publication date of the issue. The shortlines
and many private owners could go months or years between updates,
especially if they had no equipment to report (or very small fleets).

Of course, at that point there was also an effort to include cars on
order that were expected to arrive before the cover date of the issue
as well.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
lamontc@nakina.net
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Re: Eastern Car Works Trucks was: NC&StL flat car (Tichy) trucks

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Richard,

It was my impression that John Green's recent reproduction of the two
level Dalman trucks were from new tooling replicating the Cape Line
Two-level Dalman #T-24. John had told me that he had obtained the
rights to the Cape Line trucks from the owner after Ertel sold them back
to them.

Was there a connection between the line of Cape Line trucks and those
from the M. Dale Newton Red Ball Line?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@ udel.edu


Richard Hendrickson wrote:

On Oct 25, 2005, at 1:54 PM, James F. Brewer wrote:



Phil,

You might want to check out Bethlehem Car Works; they have a version
of the
Dalman 2 level truck cast in a metal alloy. See:

http://www.bethlehemcarworks.com/Products/Kit_Bits/index.html#Trucks

The Bethlehem trucks are the latest in several incarnations of the old
(VERY old) Red Ball trucks, made from tooling that dates back to the
early 1940s. That in itself isn't a bad thing, of course, and many of
those antiques are still the only way to model a variety of prototype
trucks in HO scale. But the Bethelehem/ex-Red Ball Dalman two level
represents a very odd version of the Dalman design. I'm sure there was
a prototype for it it's hardly likely that M. Dale Newton invented it
out of thin air but if so, I've never seen a single example. And the
sideframe configuration is so unlike the Dalman trucks that were widely
used in the 1920s and early '30s as to be virtually useless. To model
the trucks under the NC&StL flat cars, or any other common trucks of
Dalman design, Eastern Car Works is still the only game in town.

Richard Hendrickson





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Re: Car Builder Cyclopedias

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Dick,

Here are some additional corrections:

Rhbale@aol.com wrote:

Although this list of Car and Loco Builders Cyc owners is about five years
old, it may still be of some value.

Car Builders Dictionary/Cyclopedia
==================================
1879/81 1st edition Dick Bale (reprint), Robert L. Harris (1949 reprint),
Kyle Wyatt (Dover reprint, orig. reprinted in 1881)
1884/88 2nd edition Robert L. Harris (1971 reprint), Al Westerfield (1888),
Kyle Wyatt (Gregg reprint, the orig. 1888 was itself a
reprint of the 1884 edition)
1895/98
1903 4th edition Tony Thompson, Al Westerfield
1906 5th edition Robert L. Harris, Richard Hendrickson, Dave Nelson,
Tony Thompson, Al Westerfield, Kyle Wyatt (Gregg
reprint)
Add me to this listing (1906 5th Edition Gregg Reprint)!

1909 6th edition Byron Rose, Kyle Wyatt
1912 7th edition Robert L. Harris, Kyle Wyatt
1916 8th edition Byron Rose, Al Westerfield, Kyle Wyatt
1919 9th edition Dick Bale, Robert L. Harris, Al Westerfield, Kyle Wyatt
1922 10th edition Richard Hendrickson, Dave Nelson, Max S. Robin,
Al Westerfield
Add me to this listing (1922 10th Edition)!

1925 11th edition Al Westerfield, Chuck Yungkurth
1928 12th edition Dave Nelson, Tony Thompson
1931 13th edition Dick Bale, Dave Nelson, Max S. Robin, Guy Wilber
Add me to this listing (1931 13th edition)!

1937 14th edition brockm@palmnet.net, Richard Hendrickson, Dave Nelson,
Max S. Robin, Guy Wilber
Add me to this listing (1937 14th Edition)!

1940 15th edition Dick Bale, Bob Bowes (reprint), Ed Dabler (reprint),
Richard Hendrickson, Max S. Robin, Tony Thompson
(Kalmbach), Chuck Yungkurth
Add me to this listing (1940 15th Edition - Kalmbach Reprint)!

1943 16th edition Ed Dabler, Dave Nelson, Max S. Robin, Tony Thompson,
Guy Wilber, mhrreast@juno.com
Add me to this listing (1943 16th Edition)!

1946 17th edition Dick Bale, Ed Dabler, Richard Hendrickson, Dave Nelson,
Max S. Robin, Stafford Swain, Tony Thompson,
Guy Wilber, Chuck Yungkurth
Add me to this listing (1946 17th Edition)!

1949-51 18th edition Bob Bowes, Ian Cranstone, Max S. Robin, Tony Thompson,
Guy Wilber
Add me to this listing (1946-51 18th Edition)!

1953 19th edition Dick Bale, Bob Bowes, brockm@palmnet.net, Ed Dabler,
Dave Nelson, Max S. Robin, Bill Schneider,
Stafford Swain (Canadian edition), georgeloop@juno.com,
Tony Thompson, Chuck Yungkurth
Add me to this listing (1953 19th Edition)!

1957 20th edition Bob Bowes, Jim Eager, GollerMH@corning.com,
Chuck Yungkurth
Add me to this listing (1957 20th Edition)!

1961 21st edition Ed Dabler, Randall Hano, Dave Nelson, Tony Thompson,
Chuck Yungkurth, mhrreast@juno.com
Add me to this listing (1961 21st Edition)!


Locomotive Cyclopedia
=====================
1919 5th edition Stafford Swain, Chuck Yungkurth
1925 7th edition brockm@palmnet.net, Dave Nelson
1930 9th edition Max S. Robin (Gregg reprint), Byron Rose
1941 11th edition brockm@palmnet.net, GollerMH@corning.com,
Stafford Swain, Max S. Robin (Kalmbach reprint)
1947 Chuck Yungkurth
Add me to this listing (1947 13th Edition)!

1950/52 14th edition Bob Bowes, Stafford Swain
1956 15th edition Byron Rose

Car and Locomotive Cyclopedia
=============================
1966 1st edition Bob Bowes, Ian Cranstone, Jim Eager, Bill Schneider
Add me to this listing (1966 1st edition)!

1970 2nd edition Dick Bale, Jim Eager
1974 3rd edition Ian Cranstone, Larry Goss, Bill Schneider,
Mike Shylanski
1980 4th edition Byron Rose
1984 5th edition Dick Bale, Ian Cranstone, Chuck Yungkurth
GollerMH@corning.com

REM
===
1945 Dave Nelson

Official Register of Passenger Car Equipment
============================================
Mar 1943 1st edition Byron Rose
Jan 1960 25th edition Terry Link
Jan 1961 26th edition Byron Rose
Mar 1964 29th edition Terry Link
Add me to this listing for the following editions:

March 1963 28th Edition
March 1964 29th Edition
March 1965 30th Edition
March 1966 31st Edition
March 1967 32nd Edition
March 1968 33rd Edition
March 1970 35th Edition

Miscellaneous
=============
Reprint 100 years of freight cars (Simmons Boardman) GollerMH@corning.com

Rules Governing the Loading of Commodities
On Open Top Cars - AAR - March 1, 1945 Ted Larson

"Condensed List of Closed, Open and
Stock Cars" from April, 1973 Byron Rose
Add me to the Miscellaneous listing and add the following:

Rules Governing The Loading of Machinery On Open Top Cars, AAR Pamphlet
No. MD-2, Effective 2-1-1951

Rules Governing The Loading Of Pipe On Open Top Cars, AAR Pamphlet No.
MD-4, Effective 6-15-1951

Paul N. Andreoli us015998@mindspring.com
Dick Bale RailNews@aol.com
Bob Bowes rib@ccia.st-thomas.on.ca
Chris Butts Flange42@aol.com
Ian Cranstone lamontc@magi.com
Thomas Cobb tecobb@tenet.edu
Tom Cockle caltcc@humboldt1.com
Ed Dabler RRFANEd@aol.com
Drew Dubler drucifer@worldnet.att.net
Jim Eager jeager@visionol.net
Calvin Everitt CEveritt@email.msn.com
Clare Gilbert Cgilbert@Sylvan.isp.on.ca
Larry Goss lgoss@wolnet.com
Steve Haas 76416.1340@Compuserve.Com
Randall Hano rlhano@worldnet.att.net
Robert L. Harris rlhjr@bellsouth.net
Richard Hendrickson hendricr@sonoma.edu
David Holden deholden@csi.com
Richard Hosker richard@sunny16.photo.tntech.edu
Richard Hovey mrictv@jetnetinc.net
Tom Jelinek Bx39crle@aol.com
Bob Johnson rjohnson@capslock.net
Seth Lakin s_lakin@hotmail.com
Ted Larson mhrreast@juno.com
Randy Lee mrgmag@msn.com
Terry Link TRLINK@netcom.ca
Peter Martin martinpe@kns.net
Jim Matthews jmatthew@wncwabash.com
Jerry Michels Asychis@aol.com
Dave Nelson muskoka@ix.netcom.com
Art O'Toole aotoole@exis.net
Russ Pinchbeck russell.pinchbeck@canada.cdev.com
John Riddell jriddell@interlog.com
Max S. Robin m_robin@cheatriver.com
Byron Rose byronrose@juno.com
Darrell W. Sawyer doghead@gte.net
Bill Schneider bill@www.branchline-trains.com
Robert Schoenberg robs@internexus.net
Mike Shylanski shylansk@erols.com
Jim Sier jsier@gte.net
John Slean slean@idirect.com
Edward Sommer ejs@mfg.sgi.com
Tom Stolte mlw636@lvnworth.com
Stafford Swain sswain@total.net
Tony Thompson thompson@signaturepress.com
Earl Tuson etuson@dpi-bits.com
Michael Watnoski frestate@erols.com
Al Westerfield westerfield@multipro.com
Guy Wilber Guycwilber@aol.com
Alan Winston awinston@scn.org
C. Jackson Wyatt III cjwyatt@wavegate.com
Kyle Wyatt KyleWyatt@aol.com
Chuck Yungkurth RAILDATA@aol.com
Tom Olsen tmolsen@udel.edu
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
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Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

ljack70117@...
 

On Nov 6, 2005, at 11:44 PM, tgregmrtn@aol.com wrote:

Then Larry comments...

"Point of interest. Con-Cor had their Budd cars made over seas. But their
paint they used on them was made in Southern California. What do you make of
that.?
Thank you
Larry Jackman"

Well, if it is in fact true then the " hazardous chemicals" are flowing the
opposite direction which is likely much easier, and the point is where can we
buy it off the shelf Larry? CON-COR to my recollection doesn't offer a line
of Railroad paints for the industry... The demand doesn't warrant the risk.

The real question is why can't we supply companies with color matches of
over the counter products that match what the industry is try to paint their
products. This would move us towards the best of both worlds.

Greg Martin
I have the name of the company that made the con-Cor paint. But as you noted they only sell it in 5 gallon or larger lots. I was going to use it on a S Scale project that fell trough.
Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@adelphia.net
I wish the buck stopped here as I could use a few


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

ljack70117@...
 

On Nov 6, 2005, at 9:45 PM, tgregmrtn@aol.com wrote:


Armand Premo writes:

"Jerry,Not to belabor the point, but if the paint is available
commercially,
what is to prevent the hobbyist from going to his local paint
store and
buying some? Armand Premo"


Think of how his one would work... I need a ¾ oz. bottle of Life
like SP or
NYC/P&LE Freight car color. Life Like/Walthers (or Branchline/
Athearn/Atlas
or anyone) now goes to China and develops a complete new line of
paint from a
foreign country into the U. S. A. through customs(and the EPA) to
sell in
Hobby Shops devoted to Trains or via E_commerce or mail order just to
accommodate a short/nearly limited run of freight cars...

Okay next question... How do you make a small fortune in the Model
Railroad
hobby Industry?

Greg Martin
Point of interest. Con-Cor had their Budd cars made over seas. But
their paint they used on them was made in Southern California. What
do you make of that.?
Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@adelphia.net
It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end to end,
someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them.


Re: N'ville atfermath

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Ed, Mainline's room was just down the hall from Bob's. There may be some
connection. Each of them had a sign telling where the other was.
Mainline had a smaller selection. He didn't have the specific item I was
looking for so I didn't stay to browse and can't tell you what he had to
offer.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

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--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@v...>
wrote: Bob's Photos and Mainline Photos were set up in their rooms,
with chairs if you could find an empty one.

I'm not familiar with Mainline, what do they offer? Do they sell
through the mail?

Ed


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

George Hollwedel <georgeloop1338@...>
 

"Start with a Large One"




Okay next question... How do you make a small fortune in the Model Railroad
hobby Industry?

Greg Martin








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Re: Red Ball 65 ft. gon

tappercj
 

The Red Ball kit is not that good. It lacks a rivet line along the side where the floor intersects the fishbelly side. No interior detail. I forget how many panels it has, but I am not sure it has a specific prototype. I got a pair and really have not pursued finding a prototype for them. The thin cast-metal sides would be fun to dent...but 65' DE mill gons didn't get a lot of punishment like the 50 and 40 foot gons.

A list of available steam-era 65' gon models versus needed prototypes will be very short.

Charlie Tapper


Re: UTLX tank cars.

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

I hear that they are one of the more challenging of Martin's
offerings.
The Sunshine X-3s are not as easy as a boxcar or gondola but are not
impossible to build. I have several on the shelf that I think are harder.
I've built 2 of the X-3s and have 2 more in my queue plus the X-5 I picked
up at Naperville.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Re: N'ville Aftermath

Jim and Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
I think Martin was surprised by the popularity of the plug door
reefers. They disappeared VERY quickly, especially the Burlington
cars.
I waited too long to get a BREX reefer but Martin took care of me. He took
a WHIX kit and swapped the WHIX decals for BREX ones. Inside the box, all 4
kits are the same except for decals. All 4 kits contain both varieties of
ends. He'll also send me the proper box label when he sends the order I
placed for out of stock items.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

Bruce Smith
 

On Sun, November 6, 2005 1:10 pm, armand premo wrote:
Jerry,Not to belabor the point,but if the paint is available
commercially,what is to prevent the hobbiest from going to his local
paint store and buying some?Armand Premo

What store? This ain't Sherwin Williams! By commercial Jerry meant that
the paint is ONLY available to other businesses, not private
individuals... unless you buy your model paint in 50 gallon drums?

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn AL


Re: UTLX tank cars.

Bruce Smith
 

On Sun, November 6, 2005 2:46 pm, Arnold wrote:
Well Mr. Smith.......that's very informative you have here.
Are there any stores in the U.S. who sells the decorated UTLX 8,000
by Proto 2000?
I've googled, but nothing to find.
Also, i don't have any experience in building the "X-3" 6,000 gallon
type from Sunshine Models.
Is there someone willing to sell a perfectly build model to me?

Arnold.
Arnold,

For the P2K kit, try eBay. I think that there are several ongoing auctions
right now. BTW, I try not to pay more than $8.00 per car <G>. As for the
X-3 models, I hear that they are one of the more challenging of Martin's
offerings. I have a bunch waiting for me to build them, and I picked up
even more at Naperville with the new X-5! You may end up paying quite a
bit to someone to get them to build one "perfectly" <VBG>

Regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Railroad magazines, journals: Free.

Gary E. Ray <garyeray@...>
 

Hi Denny,

I'd be delighted to have the magazines if they are not already spoken for.
Please let me know and I will arrange to pick them up.

Thanks,

Gary Ray

Magalia, CA



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Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 4:09 PM
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List; Passenger Car List
Subject: [STMFC] Railroad magazines, journals: Free.



Pardon the multiple postings:

I am significantly reducing inventory and will be getting rid of the
following:

TRAINS magazines, c. 1970-1999. Most years are complete.
LOCOMOTIVE & RAILWAY PRESERVATION #'s 1-54 (I think that all are
there), 1986-95.
RAILFAN & RAILROAD. 2000-2004.

These are all free as a group only at this time FOB Sacramento.

If there are no takers, all will be retired to the recycling bin.

Please Note: Shipping costs for bulk magazines can be expensive.

If interested, please contact me only off line.

Thanks!

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Re: Railshops Models

al_brown03
 

Don't think so: I had the same thought the other day &
googled "railshops" w/out result. Unless I missed it.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

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Does Railshops have a presence on the web? I'd like to get a few of
the carbon black hoppers and see what else they may offer.

Gene S.


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

Greg Martin
 

In part I ask:

Okay next question... How do you make a small fortune in the Model
Railroad
hobby Industry?
Greg Martin


Then Larry comments...

"Point of interest. Con-Cor had their Budd cars made over seas. But their
paint they used on them was made in Southern California. What do you make of
that.?
Thank you
Larry Jackman"

Well, if it is in fact true then the " hazardous chemicals" are flowing the
opposite direction which is likely much easier, and the point is where can we
buy it off the shelf Larry? CON-COR to my recollection doesn't offer a line
of Railroad paints for the industry... The demand doesn't warrant the risk.

The real question is why can't we supply companies with color matches of
over the counter products that match what the industry is try to paint their
products. This would move us towards the best of both worlds.

Greg Martin


Re: UTLX tank cars.

Charles Dean
 

Ted Culotta has UTLX decals in the "pipeline"... they'll be available soon.

Charles Dean
Speedwitch Models
2213 Frankfort Road
Shelbyville, Kentucky 40065-9470
502.649.7012

www.speedwitch.com

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Bruce Smith wrote

If you can't find the model, you can buy any 8k type 21, strip it,
paint it black and use the Champ UTLX decals to letter it.

Urf! If you can find them, Steve Hile made some excellent UTLX decals.
Or perhaps you can persuade Martin to sell you some of his, or maybe
we can prevail on Ted Culotta to do some UTLX decals. The Champ set is
60's era -- minor lettering is absent or "size corrected" to make it
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