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Re: Proto 2000 Mather Stock Car kits

Larry Kline
 

I just uploaded a Mather Stock Car roster. Its based mostly on Richard Hendrickson's article in the 2-97 Rail Model Journal, with some additional information from an article by Gary Schlerf in the Summer 96 issue of the B&O Historical magazine. There are counts from the 7-45, 1-48 and 4-51 ORERs. The counts in the 1-48 column are from Richard's article. They are incomplete because I don't have that issue of the ORER.

I put this roster together while working on the forthcoming NMRA book of freight car photos based on the Charles collection. I think it took 3 or 4 hours to find the articles in my library (using the Model Train magazine index), read them, scan in Richard's roster, and look up the car counts in the ORERs.

For those who don't have them, copies of articles are available from the NMRA library.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA


Icing refers

fddms <cgw101c@...>
 

Hello group
If I may change the topic....
How often would a refer be iced in transit? How about from pre-ice to
delivery?
Thank you in advance
Frank Grimm
Leland, IL


New file uploaded to STMFC

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Re: Proto 2000 UTLX tank cars

Robert Cheeks <Rcheeks666@...>
 

Tim

No, the P2K cars are stencilled correctly. Intermountain did white lettering on their early run UTLX tank cars.

P2k has made some errors in paint and lettering but overall have done a fantastic job. I appreciate their efforts and have purchased many of their kits.

Robert Cheeks
Riverside CA

Didn't P2K screw up on a run of UTLX tank cars, and stencil them
with white lettering??
Tim O'Connor


Stake pocket castings

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Thanks - that's enough for me to find it.

Rob Kirkham


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Re: W vs H

Tim O'Connor
 

Clark, a few years ago I called IM directly and talked to
Ron Angstead and got 20 or so sets of truck sprues for the
SFRD reefer trucks for 75 cents each. Since they produce
all of the parts in Colorado they often have stockpiles of
sprues lying around.

At 09:34 AM 12/17/2005, you wrote:
I went the hobby shop yesterday to order the Intermountain SFRD reefer trucks for my RPI CGW 90000 series box car kit (notice I didn't say PS-0). I looked in the Walthers catalog, no IM. I was told they now are exclusively sold through Horizon. I asked for the Horizon catalog, there isn't one. How do I buy IM stuff?? I came home, looked up their web site, very few parts are listed, lots of those tempting RTR models. So, I emailed them, they responded saying they would be happy to sell the trucks to me. But, now I've cut out my local dealer and the discount he gives me. I don't want to make a big deal out of this, but this is a problem
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Proto 2000 UTLX tank cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Didn't P2K screw up on a run of UTLX tank cars, and stencil them
with white lettering??

Tim O'Connor

I'm asking this because they are no longer available in holland,
and on the internetstores anymore.
I hope a local trainshop?


Re: Weighing Freight Cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Pat "Wiser" Guy wrote

Would someone please tell me everything they know about weighing
freight cars? With an emphasis on the B&O railroad? Hey wait a
minute........I think I remember an article in.......
RP Cyc #12. Written by some obscure scholar whose name I've forgotten.


Re: Stake pocket castings

Tim O'Connor
 

They are identical to the pockets on the Proto 2000 flat cars.
Basically a tall U shape pocket. The Grandt line pockets are
short, like the Tichy pockets.

At 12:52 AM 12/17/2005, you wrote:
Can someone post a photo of these, please.
Rob Kirkham


Brian Ehni

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

Brian:

Can you email me off list with a phone number for you? Your email server does not like me (again).

Sorry for the bandwidth, list members.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: W vs H

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

Clark,

As I understand it, if your dealer originally ordered direct from IM, he/she can continue to do so.

I recently asked my local dealer to order some undec kits and parts and the dealer was able to obtain them with no problem.

Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD

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Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] W vs H



On Dec 17, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Clark Propst wrote:

I went the hobby shop yesterday to order the Intermountain SFRD
reefer trucks for my RPI CGW 90000 series box car kit (notice I didn't
say PS-0). I looked in the Walthers catalog, no IM. I was told they
now are exclusively sold through Horizon. I asked for the Horizon
catalog, there isn't one. How do I buy IM stuff?? I came home, looked
up their web site, very few parts are listed, lots of those tempting
RTR models. So, I emailed them, they responded saying they would be
happy to sell the trucks to me. But, now I've cut out my local dealer
and the discount he gives me. I don't want to make a big deal out of
this, but this is a problem
Clark:

Maybe your local dealer could contact them about parts and see if they
will sell parts directly to dealers.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912





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Re: W vs H

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 17, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Clark Propst wrote:

I went the hobby shop yesterday to order the Intermountain SFRD reefer trucks for my RPI CGW 90000 series box car kit (notice I didn't say PS-0). I looked in the Walthers catalog, no IM. I was told they now are exclusively sold through Horizon. I asked for the Horizon catalog, there isn't one. How do I buy IM stuff?? I came home, looked up their web site, very few parts are listed, lots of those tempting RTR models. So, I emailed them, they responded saying they would be happy to sell the trucks to me. But, now I've cut out my local dealer and the discount he gives me. I don't want to make a big deal out of this, but this is a problem
Clark:

Maybe your local dealer could contact them about parts and see if they will sell parts directly to dealers.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


W vs H

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I went the hobby shop yesterday to order the Intermountain SFRD reefer trucks for my RPI CGW 90000 series box car kit (notice I didn't say PS-0). I looked in the Walthers catalog, no IM. I was told they now are exclusively sold through Horizon. I asked for the Horizon catalog, there isn't one. How do I buy IM stuff?? I came home, looked up their web site, very few parts are listed, lots of those tempting RTR models. So, I emailed them, they responded saying they would be happy to sell the trucks to me. But, now I've cut out my local dealer and the discount he gives me. I don't want to make a big deal out of this, but this is a problem
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Stake pocket castings

jerryglow2
 

I don't have a digital camera capable of a sharp enough photo close up
but Richard's kit was an ARA flat which is what P2K now has. I suspect
looking at one of those should provide you an idea of what they look
like.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@s...> wrote:

Can someone post a photo of these, please.

Rob Kirkham


Re: UTLX Proto 2000 8K Gallon Tank Car

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 17, 2005, at 8:19 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:

Arnold van Heyst asked:
"I'm still in search for the 8.000 gallon UTLX by Proto 2000. They
have released it some years ago. Is there someone in this magnificent
group who is willing to sell me some unbuild kits?"

There's one on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6022432745

The seller will ship U.S. only, but I'm willing to act as a broker.
Contact me off-list if you're interested.

A search on "Proto 2000 tank car" turns up 11 other listings in other
roadnames if you're willing to do some paint stripping.
M. B. Klein is also a good place to troll for Proto 2000 stuff - www.modeltrainstuff.com. However, they don't have the car you seek currently.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: UTLX Proto 2000 8K Gallon Tank Car

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Arnold van Heyst asked:
"I'm still in search for the 8.000 gallon UTLX by Proto 2000. They
have released it some years ago. Is there someone in this magnificent
group who is willing to sell me some unbuild kits?"

There's one on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6022432745

The seller will ship U.S. only, but I'm willing to act as a broker.
Contact me off-list if you're interested.

A search on "Proto 2000 tank car" turns up 11 other listings in other
roadnames if you're willing to do some paint stripping.


Ben Hom


UTLX.

Arnold van Heyst
 

I'm asking this because they are no longer available in holland,
and on the internetstores anymore.
I hope a local trainshop?

--- In STMFC@..., "Arnold" <mrdata1968@y...> wrote:

Thanks for this enormous feedback about this subject.

Another one...........
I'm still in search for the 8.000 gallon UTLX by Proto 2000.
They have released it some years ago.
Is there someone in this magnificent group who is willing to sell me
some unbuild kits?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.


Re: SP Tank Car Domes

Mike Calvert
 

The O-50-11 dome ID is 54".

There is a drawing available from CSRM
(http://66.129.110.33/SearchDrawingsBasic.htm)

Southern Pacific. 21861 / Special Oct. 23, 1939 Common standard, 12,500-gallon oil car [elevation, plan and sections]. Used on: Oil car class O-50-11. 30 x 55 in. Van Dyke. Filing location:Tube 5615 ID 4006

Mike Calvert


Re: W vs H

SUVCWORR@...
 

In a message dated 12/17/2005 9:41:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tculotta@... writes:

On Dec 17, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Clark Propst wrote:

I went the hobby shop yesterday to order the Intermountain SFRD
reefer trucks for my RPI CGW 90000 series box car kit (notice I didn't
say PS-0). I looked in the Walthers catalog, no IM. I was told they
now are exclusively sold through Horizon. I asked for the Horizon
catalog, there isn't one. How do I buy IM stuff?? I came home, looked
up their web site, very few parts are listed, lots of those tempting
RTR models. So, I emailed them, they responded saying they would be
happy to sell the trucks to me. But, now I've cut out my local dealer
and the discount he gives me. I don't want to make a big deal out of
this, but this is a problem
Clark:

Maybe your local dealer could contact them about parts and see if they
will sell parts directly to dealers.

Regards,
Ted Culotta



FWIW, my dealer had no problem ordering trucks for me directly from IM.
Yes, IM has entered into an agreement with Horizon Hobbies to be the sole
distributor of IM products. But those who had direct dealer accounts before the
agreement can still order everything direct from IM. That is part of the
agreement. This was all contained in a newsletter to pre-existing dealers.

Rich Orr

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