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Re: Just a site.............

Arnold van Heyst
 

A dirty mind is a joy forever :-)

Arnold,

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I was half-expecting Ekberg, Loren, and Bardot...

Scott Pitzer


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Subject: [STMFC] Just a site.............

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
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Re: Rib Side Car Models

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

The model car bodies are generally considered to be quite accurately-rendered, while many of the applied details are not up to standard, or those separate are rudimentary (underbody). Although I can generally be tolerant of molded-on details when they are sharply-formed, the molded grab irons on this model do not meet this standard, and do require replacing, as do the end running board grabs. The brake step requires serious thinning. Excellent fodder for detailing, and none of it is out of the range of usual modeling skills.

The pad printing on the Fifth Avenue cars is better (done by Digital Fox, who also does Accurail's work), and the re-weigh markings are that of specific cars that John Greedy has identified.

The trucks supplied will depend upon whether the model is supplied directly by Ribside, or whether it is the version supplied by Fifth Avenue Car Shops (Jim Singer). Jim also supplies the excellent Accurail AAR "Bettendorf" trucks. However, for the picky, the only closely-accurate truck would be the Branchline Barber S-2s (also-excellent).

As I have mentioned before, the premium Kadee PS-1 metal running boards are an absolute dead-on drop -dead fit (just clip off first all the locating pins!).

All in all, the ribside models can provide pretty solid bases for some pretty fine modeling for those so inclined. Mine seem right at home mixed in with the Sunshine version of the same cars.

A lot of fun.

Denny

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Photos of O Scale SP GS gondola kit

Gene Deimling <losgatos48@...>
 

I just posted a few photos of a preproduction sample of the San Juan
Car Company O scale G-50-23 gondola kit. The test article was quickly
assembled by John Parker, owner of San Juan. The paint and decals
were quickly applied the night before a recent O scale show in Santa
Clara. The kit will be released in April complete with trucks,
couplers and decals.

Gene Deimling


Fact, Fiction, Truth or Myth

jim peters
 

Good morning Gentlemen,

I'm a recent convert to P87 - and to keep my life interesting I'm hand laying my track using code 55 on the main and code 40 everywhere else.

Now for the question (and I hope this might spark some discussion) . . . Do I require sprung trucks (e.g. Kadee)? Somebody (I can't remember who) convinced me, that given the small flanges on P87 wheels, that sprung trucks would help to compensate for any minor bumps or dips in the rail.

I've never really been a fan of the Kadee see through springs. On one pair of trucks I've replaced the truck springs with coupler springs. I don't know how springs are rated or graded, but the coupler springs have more coils/length - Less see through - but the smaller diameter dose not solve the see through problem.

On the other side, I really like the weight of the Kadee trucks. Their clip on brake beams look absolutely super with the P87 wheels. Even if I were to go back to the rigid trucks (Accurail, Tichy, etc) I will modify them to accept the Kadee brake beams.

I seem to be straying from my topic with that last paragraph . . . Gentlemen, any thoughts or experiences you could share. To be or not to be (sprung) is the question . . . (Sorry, just couldn't resist)

Regards

Jim Peters
Coquitlam, B.C.

P.S. Matt, I liked your idea, I'll bring up the boxcars in a couple of weeks.

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Re: Number series versus Class designation

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Hi Gene,

Sunshine Models does publish information/announcement sheets on each of its
new releases. The include number series, road classes, rebuild dates, and
all sorts of other useful data. I believe you can get them for a stamped,
self-addressed envelope if you ask soon after the kit is announced ­ I doubt
if they do very large print runs.

We announce Sunshine kits as they are released in the New & Products section
of "Model Railroader," and at modelrailroader.com. (These are based on those
info sheets.) If you write to Sunshine as soon as you see one of those
announcements, I'm sure you can get copies of the sheets for current
releases. (And each sheet includes a handy order form.)

When I see the Sunshine display at Naperville and other shows, I, like many
others, make a circuit of the room and pick up the sheets for every car that
looks remotely interesting.

So long,

Andy


Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-11142

From: Gene Green <bierglaeser@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:02:43 -0000
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Number series versus Class designation

Thanks to all who responded. I posted in frustration after spending
nearly an hour on Westerfield's site and finding, mostly, that the
number series is not to be found in his otherwise very informative
descriptions. In most cases I was unable to read the car number in
his photos and feel certain I could read it accurately.

I'll keep plugging along as I have been. It'll keep me busy.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Beckert, Shawn" <shawn.beckert@...>
wrote:

Gene Green wrote:

I find myself wishing I knew the number series for HO model
freight
cars, especially those from F&C, Sunshine and Westerfield. I
know
that the Sunshine and Westerfield instructions pretty
consistently
have that information but how do I find it without first buying
the
kit?
Al Westerfield's web page generally gives roster information and a
brief
history for each number series of kit. I don't know anything about
F&C,
and of course Sunshine doesn't have a web presence at all.

Do I just need to continue wading through the material from
various
RR historical societies, magazine articles, Morning Sun color
guides
until I find what I'm looking for?
Yep.

Shawn Beckert






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Re: Just a site.............

pgrace
 

OBB are the Austrian Federal Railway


Patrick Grace
UK

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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Just a site.............


One of those engines is a 2-12-0! From the OeBB, whoever they are.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitzer <scottp459@...> wrote:

I was half-expecting Ekberg, Loren, and Bardot...

Scott Pitzer


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From: Arnold <mrdata1968@...>
Sent: Feb 5, 2006 12:24 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Just a site.............

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
http://dampf.webmedia.hu/index.php

Arnold van Heyst.






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Re: Rib Side Car Models

oliver
 

Todd,
The MILW Rib Side cars were well covered by Richard Hendrickson in the
December 2004 Railmodel Journal and by Mont Switzer in the March 2005
Mainline Modeller.
Hope that helps with your question.
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, Bc

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, centga@... wrote:

Has anyone reviewed the models from Rib Side Cars? I did a search of
the
archives and didn't see much in the way of comments. I had the
opportunity to see
a couple of these models at a hobby shop this past weekend. The
Dreadnaught
end ribs appear to be too flat from first glance. Also noticed the
car has
molded on side grabs. Comments? Todd Horton


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Re: Just a site.............

John Van Buekenhout <jvanbu1347@...>
 

It may stand for the Ostereiche Bundesbahn (OBB) which translated into English is the Austrian State Railroad. They were innovators and had many improvements to the steam locomotive.
Jack

----- Original Message -----
From: "al_brown03" <abrown@fit.edu>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Just a site.............


One of those engines is a 2-12-0! From the OeBB, whoever they are.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitzer <scottp459@...> wrote:

I was half-expecting Ekberg, Loren, and Bardot...

Scott Pitzer


-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold <mrdata1968@...>
Sent: Feb 5, 2006 12:24 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Just a site.............

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
http://dampf.webmedia.hu/index.php

Arnold van Heyst.






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The Keystone Modeler - February 2006

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The February issue of TKM is online at
http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler.htm

Articles of interest include:

Modeling the PRR Boxcar Fleet Part 2

WKW B60B Upgrades

PRRPro Update


Ben Hom


Re: Bethlehem gon weighing update

Doug Brown <g.brown1@...>
 

Lead is too soft to stay flat on its own. On the other hand it is easy to
flatten. The flatness of the result is determined by the flatness of the
wood or plastic it is attached to. I built a 60' OTTX flat (like IMRC's)
with two full length thin sheets of wood on the bottom and several channels
and thin scribed wood on the top. It worked great!

Doug Brown

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ed_mines
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:34 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Bethlehem gon weighing update

A Line sells sheet lead, lead putty and self stick lead weights.

From the weights quoted in the Walthers catalog, a .030 sheet of
lead sandwiched in between the floor and the underframe would add
significant weight, but would raise the height of the car by about 2-
1/2 scale inches. Filling the center sill with lead putty or even
solid pieces of lead would add little additional weight.

The self stick weights that someone suggested are probably too big
to go inbetween the cross bearers, but the kit has cast on stringers
which would minimize the adhesive contact of the weights and the
floor.

The lead sheat sandwich seems somewhat promising assuming the lead
sheet is very flat. I guess that lead flashing sold in hardware
stores might not be completely flat.

McMasters sells a 12X12X1/32 lead sheet for $14 and change. My
concern would be that it's not flat and hard to flatten completely.

A Line doesn't give very much lead sheet for about $5 and lead putty
costs about $5 for 1 oz.

A 52' HO scale should weight 5 or 6 oz according to the NMRA, right?

This weight is necessary to run the car in trains, particularly with
standard weighted cars, right?

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CB&Q steam era freight cars

ed_mines
 

Anyone expert on CB&Q steam era cars? Have 1940s era diagrams?

Q's XM-21, XM-22 & XM-24 box cars (#s 130250 to 134250 in '40s
equipment registers) were similar to classic XM-25/XM-26 single
sheathed box cars which look something like Accurail single sheathed
box cars and were numbered 15000 to 16999. The 130000 series cars
had wood ends with 4 vertical Z bars and were slightly shorter than
the classic 15000 cars. My recollection is that's there's a photo of
a car with the wood end (130 thousand series) in Wales collection.

My question is - what kind of roof did these cars have in the '40s?
Outside metal? Hutchins steel roofs? The Burlington Route Historical
Society freight car data sheet says "XM-20s were the first Q box
cars to employ a metal roof".

Am I correct that XM-28s were the same car as the 15000-16999 group
with 4/4 Dreadnaught ends?

If it seems like 15000-16999 is a small number for a classic cars,
500 cars each also went to FW&D and C&S.

Ed


Re: Just a site.............

al_brown03
 

One of those engines is a 2-12-0! From the OeBB, whoever they are.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitzer <scottp459@...> wrote:

I was half-expecting Ekberg, Loren, and Bardot...

Scott Pitzer


-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold <mrdata1968@...>
Sent: Feb 5, 2006 12:24 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Just a site.............

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
http://dampf.webmedia.hu/index.php

Arnold van Heyst.






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Bethlehem gon weighing update

ed_mines
 

A Line sells sheet lead, lead putty and self stick lead weights.

From the weights quoted in the Walthers catalog, a .030 sheet of
lead sandwiched in between the floor and the underframe would add
significant weight, but would raise the height of the car by about 2-
1/2 scale inches. Filling the center sill with lead putty or even
solid pieces of lead would add little additional weight.

The self stick weights that someone suggested are probably too big
to go inbetween the cross bearers, but the kit has cast on stringers
which would minimize the adhesive contact of the weights and the
floor.

The lead sheat sandwich seems somewhat promising assuming the lead
sheet is very flat. I guess that lead flashing sold in hardware
stores might not be completely flat.

McMasters sells a 12X12X1/32 lead sheet for $14 and change. My
concern would be that it's not flat and hard to flatten completely.

A Line doesn't give very much lead sheet for about $5 and lead putty
costs about $5 for 1 oz.

A 52' HO scale should weight 5 or 6 oz according to the NMRA, right?

This weight is necessary to run the car in trains, particularly with
standard weighted cars, right?

Ed


Re: Truck type?

Tim O'Connor
 

regarding Railworks:

At 03:26 PM 2/5/2006, you wrote:
Tim,
Do they have site?
Arnold.
Since you are out of the U.S. I will guess that a good
brass dealer might carry Railworks -- like The Caboose
(good web site) or others. The Railworks people bring
all of their stuff to Springfield, including lots of
different truck models including the trucks from Rail
Classics.

On the other hand, someone said Athearn makes the truck,
so there's a stroke of luck!

Tim O.


Paging David Orr

Greg Martin
 

David Orr,

Please contact me off list.

Thanks

Greg Martin


Re: Just a site.............

Scott Pitzer
 

I was half-expecting Ekberg, Loren, and Bardot...

Scott Pitzer

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Sent: Feb 5, 2006 12:24 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Just a site.............

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
http://dampf.webmedia.hu/index.php

Arnold van Heyst.






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Re: Truck type?

Doug Brown <g.brown1@...>
 

Athearn makes these for their 200 ton crane.
Doug Brown

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Arnold
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:26 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Truck type?

Tim,

Do they have site?

Arnold.

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Arnold

That looks like a Buckeye truck. Railworks sells brass trucks
of that type, but they'll cost you as much as the kit!

Tim O'Connor


From this manufacturer http://www.fandckits.com/Index.html
you can buy this car http://www.bcenterpriseinc.com/kits/2fc2071l.jpg
What type of truck is there underneath?
Were can i buy this truck?
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Re: caboose question

Douglas Harding <d.harding@...>
 

Clark per caboose paint schemes I have researched:
For the Frisco, the painting of yellow end rails, grabs, stair edges on
cabooses began in 1946.
On the M&StL, after the C&NW merger white was used on grabs, ladders and the
steps. IE after 1960.
Sources vary, but either in 1943 or 1954 the CGW began painting grab irons
yellow for safety reasons.
Nearest I could find on the RI was sometime in the 50's.

So it would appear it varies by RR and may even vary by class of caboose, ie
when a series of built or shopped.

Doug Harding
Iowa Central Railroad
http://d.harding.home.mchsi.com


Re: Truck type?

Arnold van Heyst
 

Tim,

Do they have site?

Arnold.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Arnold

That looks like a Buckeye truck. Railworks sells brass trucks
of that type, but they'll cost you as much as the kit!

Tim O'Connor


From this manufacturer http://www.fandckits.com/Index.html
you can buy this car http://www.bcenterpriseinc.com/kits/2fc2071l.jpg
What type of truck is there underneath?
Were can i buy this truck?
Regards,
Arnold van Heyst


Just a site.............

Arnold van Heyst
 

With loads of european 50's models pictures.........
http://dampf.webmedia.hu/index.php

Arnold van Heyst.

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