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AC&F customer lists - interpreting

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

I was reviewing the AC&F lists of customers from the St Louis Mercantile Library, and noticed a series of cars/lots sold to CC&F. Among these were two sets of Type 27 tank cars, lots 714 of 5 cars, and 889 of 10 cars.

So a couple of questions arise:
1) would AC&F selling to CC&F reflect CC&F actually placing an order for car production with AC&F in an AC&F plant? Or is this probably reflective of some customs duty/tax dodge by companies with cross border traffic?

2) if these are probably relfective of CC&F actually commissioning AC&F to build and send tank cars north, presumeably it was for resale in Canada. ie CC&F would not have maintained a rost of freight cars as a lessor would it?

3) Does anyone happen to have an idea who (after CC&F) purchased lots 714 and 889, the two lots of Type 27 cars?

4) anyone know of Canadian owners of Type 27 cars? (obvious InterMountain model being the key issue here!)

Thanks in advance,

Rob Kirkham


Re: Tim's contact glue advice

oliver
 

I would concur with Andy carlson. My experience has been similar. It
is not always necessary to coat both sides unless you have a large
surface area to work with.
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:



Tim,
Though almost all contact cement manufacturers
(probably all, actually)direct the user to coat both
pieces to be joined, I frequently deviate from that
advice. I have had really good results in attaching
etched running boards to (plastic) roofs by simply
applying micro-amounts of Barge's cement solely to the
runningboard saddles placing the car up-side down
righted with a machinists square. The weight of the
car kept the runningboard in contact throughout the
curing process, and the glass table-top kept the
running board very straight. Bonds of 8 years ago are
still holding up quite well.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
--- Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Ed

This should be tattooed on the inside of model
railroader's
eyelids:

GOO is a CONTACT CEMENT. It must be applied to
both parts
to be joined and allowed to DRY (tacky) first,
before the
parts are joined.


KCS 15500-155599

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Greg's handout from Cocoa Beach says "freight car Red" for the body color.
Can anyone supply a good match for this car in Pollyscale, or other
waterbase paint.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Tim's contact glue advice

Andy Carlson
 

Tim,
Though almost all contact cement manufacturers
(probably all, actually)direct the user to coat both
pieces to be joined, I frequently deviate from that
advice. I have had really good results in attaching
etched running boards to (plastic) roofs by simply
applying micro-amounts of Barge's cement solely to the
runningboard saddles placing the car up-side down
righted with a machinists square. The weight of the
car kept the runningboard in contact throughout the
curing process, and the glass table-top kept the
running board very straight. Bonds of 8 years ago are
still holding up quite well.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
--- Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote:


Ed

This should be tattooed on the inside of model
railroader's
eyelids:

GOO is a CONTACT CEMENT. It must be applied to
both parts
to be joined and allowed to DRY (tacky) first,
before the
parts are joined.


Re: BREX beginnings

proto48er
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert and Maureen" <gamlenz@...> wrote:

Still on the subject of BREX, I'm compiling a full roster of CB&Q
reefers, including those that were leased to Burlington Refrigerator
Express Co. in June 1926.

I am aware of the intended number groups for the leased cars but
does anyone have a June 1926 ORER who can provide me with the actual
number groups that were listed for the new company.

Also, the first listing of the number of cars in each number group
was between November 1926 and May 1927. Does anyone have an ORER
between those dates who can assist with this.
Rupert - I have June, 1926 and March, 1927, ORER's. I think I still
have your email address in the computer. A.T. Kott


Re: Cyanopoxy

S. Busch <SCSBusch@...>
 

Max Robin asked:


Has anyone got an address/email/phone # for Mike Rose? I want to get some
additional cyanopoxy for a non-model railroad application.

Here is Mike's Web site:

www.mrhobby.com

(Mike Rose Hobbies)

- Steve Busch
Duncan, SC


Durkees Famous Food

lnnrr <lnnrr@...>
 

Hi Folks,
Could I please get suggestions as to where I might find images of
any DFFX tank cars? They would likely have handled vegetable oils and
such. Based in Louisville Ky. Had ARA type II, III, and IV cars.
I've tried Alta Vista and Google with no results except a history of
the reporting mark.
Thaks,
Charles Peck


Re: Cyanopoxy

Max Robin
 

Has anyone got an address/email/phone # for Mike Rose? I want to get some
additional cyanopoxy for a non-model railroad application.

Thanks,

Max
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Re: Gorilla Glue (was ACC)

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Will Gorilla Glue or other urethane glues bond to engineering plastic? Thanks.

Dave Pfeiffer


Re: moisture cure polyurethanes/Goo strings

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Years ago I built a nice interior for the MDC observation and glued it
into the car with Goo. The interior was almost 100% styrene and was
glued together with solvent type cement. Eventually the Goo caused
severe warping of both car body and interior. Since that time I have
not used Goo. And I haven't found any way to manage the "stringies."

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...> wrote:

The reason moisture curing polyurethanes expands is that they produce
carbon dioxide gas as a byproduct which often gets trapped as bubbles.

Someone mentioned they used Goo instead of ACC. I'm no fan of ACC -
parts popped off of kits (Qualitycraft kits) I built years ago.

How do you keep the Goo strings from getting all over everything?

Ed


Re: Marklin/Trix R-40-14's

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

David Ball asked:
"What is the quality/accuracy of the Marklin/Trix R-40-14's like?"

Arnold van Heyst answered:
"This reeferset is a nice one to have. Very good detail, although the
roofwalk is a bit shorter than it should be."

The running board discrepancy is minor compared to the ice hatches,
which are grossly undersized. This is inexcusable for a $32.00 model,
particularly when $5 Athearn reefers get the hatch size correct (if
not the hardware).


Ben Hom


Re: moisture cure polyurethanes/Goo strings

Tim O'Connor
 

Ed

This should be tattooed on the inside of model railroader's
eyelids:

GOO is a CONTACT CEMENT. It must be applied to both parts
to be joined and allowed to DRY (tacky) first, before the
parts are joined. It can be diluted with solvents; which
solvents depend on the brand.

Tim O.

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Someone mentioned they used Goo instead of ACC. I'm no fan of ACC -
parts popped off of kits (Qualitycraft kits) I built years ago.
How do you keep the Goo strings from getting all over everything?
Ed


moisture cure polyurethanes/Goo strings

ed_mines
 

The reason moisture curing polyurethanes expands is that they produce
carbon dioxide gas as a byproduct which often gets trapped as bubbles.

Someone mentioned they used Goo instead of ACC. I'm no fan of ACC -
parts popped off of kits (Qualitycraft kits) I built years ago.

How do you keep the Goo strings from getting all over everything?

Ed


Bamberger

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
 

Thanks for that post. The bad news is my surmise was incorrect. The good news is that we now know more about the Bamberger Railroad. So I'll keep on guessing.

They must have had some good sales people and local connections to get those big grocery warehouses on their shortline. But then maybe the grocery chains located on Bamberger so they would be gauranteed a choice of SP, UP or WP.

From: "shaystark" <SHAYS@AQUAENG.COM>
Subject: Re: Banana Reefers & Routing

Malcolm wrote:
The Bamberger exception indicates that their freight trains did not have cabooses, but it's unlikely they ever would have handled bananas from Ogden to Salt Lake city.
According to information that I have gleaned from interviewing
Bamberger employees Strawberry and Banana movements were the only
commodities that took precedent over scheduled passenger trains.


Malcolm Laughlin, Editor 617-489-4383
New England Rail Shipper Directories
19 Holden Road, Belmont, MA 02478


Re: Super Glue as medical adhesive

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

The website you referenced in your previous post alludes to chemical
differences as well.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni

From: Denny Anspach <danspach@macnexus.org>
Reply-To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:49:22 -0800
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Super Glue as medical adhesive

The AC glue used for medical purposes is NOT the same as what one can
purchase at the LHS or office supply. The biggest difference (and the
most important) is that the medical grade is sterile, and the
commercial grade is not- pretty important. I would be very cautious
about using it in this regard.

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Super Glue as medical adhesive

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

The AC glue used for medical purposes is NOT the same as what one can purchase at the LHS or office supply. The biggest difference (and the most important) is that the medical grade is sterile, and the commercial grade is not- pretty important. I would be very cautious about using it in this regard.

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Super Glue

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

A very useful thread.

A brief Google review shows that the unopened shelf life of cyanoacrylate (ACC or CA) glues seems to be uniformly between 6-10 months for most, and 12 months if kept in the refrigerator. H-mmm. So, if the glue that you have just purchased at the LHS was made five months ago, was shipped out two weeks later, spent a month at the Distributor in un-airconditioned space, and has been sitting on the shelf locally for two months, not much useful life is likely to be left.

Does anyone know of AC glues that have dating?

The following URL may also be of interest- http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-cyanoacrylate-glue.htm

Noting Bill Darnaby's offhand comment that he finished 24 resin cars during his "resinating season", it is a sheer wonder that the glue supply can actually keep up with him. Also, friends, when you complain about where all the resin kits are going.....

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Banana Reefers & Routing

SHAY STARK
 

Malcolm wrote:
I imagine that the basic rule said that caretakers could recive
free transportation via the loaded route. The Bamberger exception
indicates that their freight trains did not have cabooses, but it's
unlikely they ever would have handled bananas from Ogden to Salt
Lake city.

According to information that I have gleaned from interviewing
Bamberger employees Strawberry and Banana movements were the only
commodities that took precedent over scheduled passenger trains.
From what I can find in photos the greatest number of cars I could
see was three but most the time only one car was involved. Bamberger
served the Safeway Warehouse, and Utah Wholesale Grocers Warehouse
which both received bananas and strawberries. The various produce
wholesalers located at the Salt Lake Fruit Growers Market also
received strawberries off the Bamberger. Bamberger was notified when
cars were arriving in Ogden and would have a crew waiting at the
interchange for the cars. The cars would usually be tacked on the
back of the nearest scheduled Bamberger passenger run or else in
between scheduled trains an available passenger motor would be
utilized. If on a scheduled train the cars would be switched out at
the Salt Lake Passenger Terminal where they would be immediately
forwarded on to their respective destinations. Cars heading to Salt
Lake City on unscheduled special movements would be taken directly
to the final destination. Carloads of watermelons were also treated
in a special manner but did not warrant special movements.

Shay Stark


Re: Banana Reefers & Routing

SHAY STARK
 

Malcolm wrote:
I imagine that the basic rule said that caretakers could recive
free transportation via the loaded route. The Bamberger exception
indicates that their freight trains did not have cabooses, but it's
unlikely they ever would have handled bananas from Ogden to Salt
Lake city.

According to information that I have gleaned from interviewing
Bamberger employees Strawberry and Banana movements were the only
commodities that took precedent over scheduled passenger trains.
From what I can find in photos the greatest number of cars I could
see was three but most the time only one car was involved. Bamberger
served the Safeway Warehouse, and Utah Wholesale Grocers Warehouse
which both received bananas and strawberries. The various produce
wholesalers located at the Salt Lake Fruit Growers Market also
received strawberries off the Bamberger. Bamberger was notified when
cars were arriving in Ogden and would have a crew waiting at the
interchange for the cars. The cars would usually be tacked on the
back of the nearest scheduled Bamberger passenger run or else in
between scheduled trains an available passenger motor would be
utilized. If on a scheduled train the cars would be switched out at
the Salt Lake Passenger Terminal where they would be immediately
forwarded on to their respective destinations. Cars heading to Salt
Lake City on unscheduled special movements would be taken directly
to the final destination. Carloads of watermelons were also treated
in a special manner but did not warrant special movements.

Shay Stark


Re: Super Glue

Michael Watnoski
 

Greetings,

You could also try the dollar stores in your area. I often find
a pack of three for a dollar. At this price, I don't worry too
much about it going bad.

Michael

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