On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Bob Lucas wrote:

Several sources state that casinghead gasoline (liquid hydrocarbons
extracted from natural gas) had to be shipped only in class ICC-104
insulated tank cars during the steam era.  Was this true for refined
gasoline or were standard ICC-103 general purpose (non-insulated) tank
cars used?

ARA-III/ICC-103 tank cars, both insulated and non-insulated, were
widely used to ship gasoline. For example, in the forties the U. S.
Army purchased a large number of non-insulated ICC-103s from both AC&F
and GATC to transport aviation fuel. And the tank car fleets of many
petroleum companies consisted entirely, or almost entirely, of
non-insulated ARA-III/ICC-103 cars.

Richard Hendrickson

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones' book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

--
Jeff Aley jaley@...
DPG Chipsets Product Engineering
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533

I saw this on Rob Shoenberg's site:



http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_171906_H35.jpg
<http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_171906_H35.jpg&
fr> &fr=



Even the railroads sometimes had problems lettering between the ribs.



Doug Brown

Another question about the UTLX cars.

Intermountain has released a 10.000 gallon UTLX welded type.
But they also have a 8.000 gallon welded version of that type.
Did the UTLX also owned 8.000 gallon welded versions of that type?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.

At the risk of wandering off topic for this list, I am responding to the
comments regarding the availability of APM models.



I recently contacted Classic Metal Works to express my interest in bus
models for the steam era. They were rather cryptic in their comments but
left me with the feeling that this may very well be a future model offering.
No specific model of bus was discussed but I did reference the APM buses in
my original email.



They did indicate that they would pass my email along to their marketing
product research group. Perhaps if others on this group sent them more
emails on this subject it might move this up their priority list. Here is
the email address"



cmwsales@...



Be sure to mention the scale and time period that you are interested in
buying. I was looking for early 1950's buses (transit/highway/school) in HO
Scale.



Allen Cain

On Feb 12, 3:13pm, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Decals.
Arnold van Heyst asked:
"I know there are some solvents available that will fix a decal to
its surface. But what was it?"

There are three products widely used by both scale modelers and
model railroaders:

Walthers Solvaset
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/904-470

Champ Decal-Set
http://www.minot.com/~champ/other.htm

Microscale Micro-Sol and Micro-Set
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-105
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-104

Polly-Scale also makes a pair of decal solutions that I've used
successfully over Polly-Scale (water-based) paint with Microscale decals.

Regards,

-Jeff

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Jeff Aley jaley@...
DPG Chipsets Product Engineering
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533

http://www.carstens-publications.com/backiss/rm_0603.html

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Arnold" <mrdata1968@...> wrote:

Someone willing to make scans of this artikel?

Arnold van Heyst.

I recommend keeping a supply of Solvaset or Decal Set and the
Microscale products on hand if you're serious about decalling
models. See Ted Culotta's Essential Freight Cars sidebar "Applying
Decals" in the June 2003 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman for

more

information.

Someone willing to make scans of this artikel?

Arnold van Heyst.

List: A good source of resharpened carbide bits can be found at
www.store.yahoo.com/drillcity/ . The bits can be purchased in 10 packs for $0.90 ea. They
have 0.125 inch shanks, plastic ID size collars and a neat plastic case. Sizes
are available in wire gage, micro wire gage and metric and can be had in
assortments and single sizes. I use them in a Brazelton drill press refitted with
an Albrecht 0 - 0.125 chuck. The 0.125 shank on the bit makes it easy to chuck
the bit up. I find that the carbide bits do not "walk" or wonder, they just
drill where they are pointed. I also use the Brazelton motor/grearhead as a
drilling hand piece, but you have to be careful of bit breakage. However I have
found that carbide bits broken in half still drill like new. I also have two
sets of one size Starrett knurled metal pin vises for hand drilling and hole
cleaning. Each one has a dedicated drill and labeled so my 64 year old eyes can
find them easily. Cheap Enco TiN coated wire drill sets work fine in the pin
vises for plastic and resin. An Enco #61-80 set is $9.55. For you "old eye
folks," you may also want to check out a vision aid by Edroy Products called
Opticaid. It comes in diopters from +2D to +10D and clips on eye glass frames, very
helpful. Regards: Jerry Albin Homer Glen, IL

Greetings,

Another possible source of your problem might just be a dirty
nozzle on the spray can, causing a bit of spitting. A cure for
this is to buy a spray can of carburetor cleaner. Spray the
cleaner through the dullcoat nozzle after each use. This will
also work with most spray paints.

Michael

--- In STMFC@..., Ilcentral@... wrote:

Ben,
I have used Walthers setting solutions for years I cut it 50&#92;50 with
distilled water.
I have never had a problem using thin film decals.
You are right though if you use it full strength out of the bottle

you will

burn the decal.

John Pitts

Using distilled water is best for soaking decals, too, especially in
areas of very hard water. As distilled water evaporates it leaves
nothing behind while hard water such as we have here in El Paso leaves
a white crust behind. A gallon jug of distilled water costs 50 cents
to a dollar and lasts me for years.

Gene Green

Arnold van Heyst asked:
"I know there are some solvents available that will fix a decal to
its surface. But what was it?"

There are three products widely used by both scale modelers and
model railroaders:

Walthers Solvaset
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/904-470

Champ Decal-Set
http://www.minot.com/~champ/other.htm

Microscale Micro-Sol and Micro-Set
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-105
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-104

The Walthers and Champ setting solutions are formulated for older
decals with thicker film and are very strong. DO NOT USE THESE FOR
INITIAL APPLICATION OF THINFILM DECALS. However, they can be
carefully used for final working of thinfilm decals.

Micro-Sol and Micro-Set are designed specifically for Microscale's
decals and work very well with them and other thinfilm decals;
however, they don't touch thicker decals.

I recommend keeping a supply of Solvaset or Decal Set and the
Microscale products on hand if you're serious about decalling
models. See Ted Culotta's Essential Freight Cars sidebar "Applying
Decals" in the June 2003 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman for more
information.


Ben Hom

Jared,

The cause is quite simple, it is the humidity in the air. As you spray the Dullcote, its temperature drops because the pressure in the can is dropping. This causes tiny droplets of moisture in the air to cling to the droplets of Dullcote, causing the "blushing" or "milky" spots.

I used to spray in a "Florida room" at the back to the house I rented and had to wait for an exceptionally dry day to spray Dullcote. Since I built my house, my spray painting is done in a heated and air conditioned room above the garage and I have had no further troubles with Dullcote from a "spray bomb"

Both houses are within 1500 feet of the Gulf of Mexico, so humidity is a problem.

Gregg Mahlkov
Florida's Forgotten Coast

----------
Jared Harper asks:

Yes, I am using rattle can dullcote and have for years. I have never
had this problem before. I need to know the cause and how to fix it.

Sirs,

I know there are some solvents available that will fix a decal to it's
surface.
But what was it?
Who help me?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.

Jared,I tend to wait a day or so and try again.It has been my experience
that the dull coat is OK,but is reacting to too much moisture in the air at
the time you are spraying.To fix it try semi gloss and then another
overspray with dullcoat.It works for me.Good luck.Armand Premo

David, I would not say the model is "significantly wrong" except for the road
numbers. I have IM 47410-01, which is the only correct road number, #62537.
Paint the side ladders black and change the rebuild date to 4-44 and it is dead
on. Changing the road numbers to make them correct on the rest of the IM
series is probably more trouble than its worth.
Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

--- In STMFC@..., PBowers <waiting@...> wrote:

I know bus is a four letter word on a lot of layouts but I'm looking

for a

American Precision Model HO Flxible Clipper bus for a railcar load.

I kick myself for not buying some of these models when they were
introduced, especially the transit version. As a result I've resorted
to ebay and see them occasionally. But be prepared to shell out
upwards of $45 or more. Its a shame that after APM went out of
business noone else picked up their molds as these are nice models. I
could use a few more myself.

Rick Maxwell

Ben,
I have used Walthers setting solutions for years I cut it 50&#92;50 with
distilled water.
I have never had a problem using thin film decals.
You are right though if you use it full strength out of the bottle you will
burn the decal.

John Pitts

Thanks Paul

I thought that was the only meaningful difference, but I thought I would let
those who know more than me comment!

Anyway, the model is still significantly wrong, which is what I was trying
to ascertain.

Ta

David Ball


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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
cobrapsl@...
Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2006 5:39 p.m.
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] IM R-40-19's


No Andy, Intermountain has done what they call "R-40-19 Refrigerator Car"
and
it is carried as their product number 47410. It is Terry's R-30-18 kit with
an apex metal roofwalk and a little different paint scheme. A little
different
paint and a metal roof walk is essentilly the only difference betweem the
-18
and the -19, so I am not sure what Terry would be doing to "create" a new
-19
kit. Anyway they butcher this run with errors just like they did all the -18

models except for the one run they got right.
Paul Lyons
Laguna NIguel, CA







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Boy, Am I ever so wrong. I have been mixing class
designations up in my mind. YES, indeed, Intermountain
has done a R-40-19, which is basically a R-40-18 with
a metal runningboard. I will try not to make wrong
postings in the future!!!!
-Andy Carlson