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Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I attended the Twin Cities Prototype modelers meet yesterday. I already posted a link to photos of some of the models displayed. What was the most amazing display to me was from "Rail Yard" models. Bob Rivard displayed some completed models, but the kits were unbelievable. I thought they were plastic models I would have never guessed they were resin castings. There's is no way, any of the resin kits I have seen even come close to the quality of "Rail Yard" . Too bad he only makes modern stuff...maybe not?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Sinclair Refining Tank Cars

Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

Bob Lucas wrote:

Note that tank car car counts for several large independent refiners
dropped off significantly in the post-war years. Curious, though,
about Sinclair Refining, which still owned 4,964 cars in 1954. Working with Al Westerfield's ORER on CD, I can only track down 336
ARA-II and ARA-III cars with FMTX (Sinclair Cuba Refining) reporting
marks. What happened to the (SDRX, UNPX, PARX) others? Were these
sold by Sinclair to one of the leasing firms?
UTLX bought the fleet from Sinclair.

Tim Gilbert


Sinclair Refining Tank Cars

Bob Lucas
 

Note that tank car car counts for several large independent refiners
dropped off significantly in the post-war years. Curious, though,
about Sinclair Refining, which still owned 4,964 cars in 1954.
Working with Al Westerfield's ORER on CD, I can only track down 336
ARA-II and ARA-III cars with FMTX (Sinclair Cuba Refining) reporting
marks. What happened to the (SDRX, UNPX, PARX) others? Were these
sold by Sinclair to one of the leasing firms? Bob Lucas


Re: delray connecting railroad

Bob Lucas
 

Bill, a short history of the Delray Connecting appeared some years ago
in the NMRA Division 4 (North Central Region) magazine. From what I
recall, the DCRR mostly performed industrial switching in the
downriver area of Detroit. There was a concentration of heavy
industry on Zug Island including Semet-Solvey Div. Allied Chemical
(who, I believe owned the DCRR for many years), Great Lakes Steel,
Detroit Edison and the U.S. Army's Fort Wayne depot. The Delray ran a
daily turn from Zug Island, the "stone run", until 1953 over the DT&I
to a nearby limestone quarry at Sibley. Presumably, that's how the
hoppers you mention were utilized. The DCRR is still around, though
the "rust belt" industry it served has pretty evaporated. Bob


Re: 2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos

Tim O'Connor
 

nice photography Erik! Canon digital slr?

Tim O'Connor

At 05:11 PM 2/12/2006, you wrote:
I've got all my photos online at,
http://www.pbase.com/ehyjek/rosemount_prototype_modelers_meet_2006
Erik Hyjek


2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 


Re: UTLX.

Bruce Smith
 

On Sun, February 12, 2006 2:28 pm, Arnold wrote:
I'm sorry.....my mistake.
I do mean the 2 revited types, 8.000 & 10.000 gallons.
Arnold,

Yes, sort of, to your original question. As we have noted here to you
previously, UTLX had their own design, the X-3, for riveted tank cars, and
a wonderful series of kit is available in resin from Sunshine, inlcuding
short and long 8K gallon and a 10k Gallon riveted tank. For the majority
of your UTLX cars, these would be most appropriate. However, UTLX did own
a variety of other cars. The cars sold by IM are XC&F type 27 designs.
IRRC (and Richard I'm sure will feel free to correct me), UTLX did have
both 8K and 10K type 27s although not that many (they would have had more
Type 21s, as done by Lifelike). Also be careful as the IM kit I have has
white lettering and UTLX cars all had yellow lettering!! So you'll either
end up wheathing the heck out of it (appropriately) or redoing the
lettering anyway.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

Andy Carlson
 

Intermountain RR Co., according to Terry Wegmann, had
accidently run a batch of RTR R-40-23's with the DP
roof from the Amarillo club's R-40-25. Since removing
the roof would have brought certain destruction to his
Reefer, Terry removed the lettering and numbers (he
used CA debonder on a Q-Tip), painted some appliances
Orange (over black)and relettered it as a R-40-25.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



--- jaley <jaley@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM
R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal
panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put
the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top
rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/
diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones'
book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM
to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

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Re: UTLX.

Arnold van Heyst
 

I'm sorry.....my mistake.
I do mean the 2 revited types, 8.000 & 10.000 gallons.

Arnold van Heyst.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Arnold, do you have Intermountain and Red Caboose mixed up?
IM does make make a welded 10k tank car, but RC does.

Tim O.


Another question about the UTLX cars.
Intermountain has released a 10.000 gallon UTLX welded type.
But they also have a 8.000 gallon welded version of that type.
Did the UTLX also owned 8.000 gallon welded versions of that type?
Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.


Re: wanted: APM Flxible Cl;ipper Bus Model

Victor Rance
 

FWIW there is a large window Flexible Clipper available in cast white metal
available from Australian company Weico Models at
http://www.users.bigpond.com/weicomodels/

Victor Rance, Adelaide, South Australia

Modeling the Santa Fe Howard, KS, Branch

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I know bus is a four letter word on a lot of layouts but I'm looking
for a

American Precision Model HO Flxible Clipper bus for a railcar load.


I kick myself for not buying some of these models when they were

introduced, especially the transit version. As a result I've resorted

to ebay and see them occasionally. But be prepared to shell out

upwards of $45 or more. Its a shame that after APM went out of

business noone else picked up their molds as these are nice models. I

could use a few more myself.



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Re: UTLX.

Tim O'Connor
 

Arnold, do you have Intermountain and Red Caboose mixed up?
IM does make make a welded 10k tank car, but RC does.

Tim O.

Another question about the UTLX cars.
Intermountain has released a 10.000 gallon UTLX welded type.
But they also have a 8.000 gallon welded version of that type.
Did the UTLX also owned 8.000 gallon welded versions of that type?
Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.


Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

Tim O'Connor
 

Jeff, all R-40-23's had rectangular panel roofs.

Here are some other R-40-23 specs:

Running Boards & Brake Steps -

4000 - Morton, car numbers: 6001-8000, 46703-48702
1000 - Gypsum, car numbers: 5001-6000

Hand Brakes -

1250 - Ajax, car numbers: 5001-5250, 7501-8000, 48203-48702
1250 - Equipco, car numbers: 6001-6500, 6751-7000, 46703-47202
1250 - Universal, car numbers: 5751-6000, 7001-7500, 47703-48202
750 - Miner, car numbers: 5251-5750, 47203-47452
500 - Superior, car numbers: 6501-6750, 47453-47702

Air Brakes -

3500 - New York, car numbers: 5500-5999, 6001-7500, 46703-48202
1500 - Westinghouse, car numbers: 5001-5499, 6000, 7501-8000, 48203-48702

Door Fasteners -

2500 - Miner, car numbers: 5001-7000, 46703-47202
2500 - Universal, car numbers: 7001-8000, 47203-48702

Tim O'Connor


Re: ICC-103 vs. ICC-104 Tankcars for Gasoline

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Bob Lucas wrote:

Several sources state that casinghead gasoline (liquid hydrocarbons
extracted from natural gas) had to be shipped only in class ICC-104
insulated tank cars during the steam era.  Was this true for refined
gasoline or were standard ICC-103 general purpose (non-insulated) tank
cars used?
ARA-III/ICC-103 tank cars, both insulated and non-insulated, were
widely used to ship gasoline. For example, in the forties the U. S.
Army purchased a large number of non-insulated ICC-103s from both AC&F
and GATC to transport aviation fuel. And the tank car fleets of many
petroleum companies consisted entirely, or almost entirely, of
non-insulated ARA-III/ICC-103 cars.

Richard Hendrickson


R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

jaley <jaley@...>
 

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones' book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

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Decal Alignment - Prototype

Doug Brown <g.brown1@...>
 

I saw this on Rob Shoenberg's site:



http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_171906_H35.jpg
<http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_171906_H35.jpg&
fr> &fr=



Even the railroads sometimes had problems lettering between the ribs.



Doug Brown


UTLX.

Arnold van Heyst
 

Another question about the UTLX cars.

Intermountain has released a 10.000 gallon UTLX welded type.
But they also have a 8.000 gallon welded version of that type.
Did the UTLX also owned 8.000 gallon welded versions of that type?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.


Re: wanted: APM Flexible Clippers Bus Model

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

At the risk of wandering off topic for this list, I am responding to the
comments regarding the availability of APM models.



I recently contacted Classic Metal Works to express my interest in bus
models for the steam era. They were rather cryptic in their comments but
left me with the feeling that this may very well be a future model offering.
No specific model of bus was discussed but I did reference the APM buses in
my original email.



They did indicate that they would pass my email along to their marketing
product research group. Perhaps if others on this group sent them more
emails on this subject it might move this up their priority list. Here is
the email address"



cmwsales@classicmetalworks.com



Be sure to mention the scale and time period that you are interested in
buying. I was looking for early 1950's buses (transit/highway/school) in HO
Scale.



Allen Cain


Re: Decals.

jaley <jaley@...>
 

On Feb 12, 3:13pm, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Decals.
Arnold van Heyst asked:
"I know there are some solvents available that will fix a decal to
its surface. But what was it?"

There are three products widely used by both scale modelers and
model railroaders:

Walthers Solvaset
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/904-470

Champ Decal-Set
http://www.minot.com/~champ/other.htm

Microscale Micro-Sol and Micro-Set
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-105
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/460-104
Polly-Scale also makes a pair of decal solutions that I've used
successfully over Polly-Scale (water-based) paint with Microscale decals.

Regards,

-Jeff

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Re: Decals.

jerryglow2
 

http://www.carstens-publications.com/backiss/rm_0603.html

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Arnold" <mrdata1968@...> wrote:

Someone willing to make scans of this artikel?

Arnold van Heyst.

I recommend keeping a supply of Solvaset or Decal Set and the
Microscale products on hand if you're serious about decalling
models. See Ted Culotta's Essential Freight Cars sidebar "Applying
Decals" in the June 2003 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman for
more
information.


Re: Decals.

Arnold van Heyst
 

Someone willing to make scans of this artikel?

Arnold van Heyst.

I recommend keeping a supply of Solvaset or Decal Set and the
Microscale products on hand if you're serious about decalling
models. See Ted Culotta's Essential Freight Cars sidebar "Applying
Decals" in the June 2003 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman for more
information.

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