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Re: Dullcote problem/gun blush

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg Mahlkov" <mahlkov@...> wrote:

Jared,

The cause is quite simple, it is the humidity in the air. As you
spray the
Dullcote, its temperature drops because the pressure in the can is
dropping.
This causes tiny droplets of moisture in the air to cling to the
droplets of
Dullcote, causing the "blushing" or "milky" spots.

I used to spray in a "Florida room" at the back to the house I
rented and
had to wait for an exceptionally dry day to spray Dullcote. Since
I built my
house, my spray painting is done in a heated and air conditioned
room above
the garage and I have had no further troubles with Dullcote from
a "spray
bomb"
Greg is exactly right. Spray painters call the defect he describes
gun blush. It happens when it's very humid. Droplets of moisture
condense on the cold, still wet paint. If the aerosol can of paint
chills down a lot that could make the problem worse.(Cans of air
brush propellant always did that for me).

Ed Mines


Re: Marklin/Trix R-40-14's

mopacfirst
 

Has anyone tried using the IM R-40-10 with Detail Associates white
plastic ends? These are the ends that were originally designed for
the Athearn car, and I know they're two or three scale inches too
narrow for the IM R-40-23 (I once thought about this conversion too,
but didn't do it).
The IM kit has the beveled corners to work with the square corner
ends, but the Detail Associates W-section end has its own rivets so
it might be possible to trim the sides back just a bit.
Or is this nuts?

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:

David Ball asked:
"What is the quality/accuracy of the Marklin/Trix R-40-14's like?"

The running board discrepancy is minor compared to the ice hatches,
which are grossly undersized. <snip>

Ben Hom


Re: Intersting photos on ebay

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, cascaderail <cascaderail@...> wrote:

Check this out for some Sinclair tank cars and a NYC cars shops photo
(scan down to see these items)

<http://cgi.ebay.com/RAILROAD-TRAINS-C-1922-16x22-Photos-Collection-
of-
7_W0QQitemZ6604938387QQcategoryZ35975QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI
tem>
A few very nice pics!!!!!!!!!!

Ed


Re: Dullcote blushing

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

I don't use Dullcote any more because I've switched to acrylic paints, and
Polly Scale Clear Flat is a good flat finish I can thin with distilled
water. When I did use Dullcote, though, I NEVER used a spray can (not since
about 1965, anyway). I bought my Dullcote in a bottle, thinned it with
ordinary (meaning dangerous!) lacquer thinner, and sprayed it with an
airbrush. That completely eliminated blushing problems. Well, there was that
time I tried weathering a Dullcote-sprayed car with turpentine and oil paint
washes, but that's another story.

So long,

Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-11142


Welded tanks and knuckle radius

mopacfirst
 

Pat Wider posted a builders photo of UTLX 39150 in December. Now
I've looked at this thing more closely, versus all the ACF shots in
the Kaminski tank car book, and one more thing that I see is that the
knuckle radius on the heads is much larger on this car than on most
of the other welded tanks built during the late 40s - early 50s when
the welded tanks were first built. (Knuckle radius is a pressure
equipment term, the "knuckle" on a tank head being that part between
the tangent and the main semi-spherical portion of the head, you
might say the "corner".) The dome head on the other hand has a very
tight knuckle radius.
Question is, first, am I seeing this right? The apparent contour of
the tank handrail seems to bear it out. Second, is it a fair
conclusion that most of the early welded tanks had a really tight
knuckle radius like most riveted tanks did, and this is an anomaly or
an experiment? The heads on this car look to me like normal
ellipsoidal heads, which I should be able to get from Plastruct or
similar. By the way, the Red Caboose model has the really tight
radius heads and dome head.
It looks like by the mid-fifties, when the Kaminski tank car book
ends, the ellipsoidal head had become the normal choice. This makes
sense since the larger radii are better for resisting pressure and it
may be easier to press a head with the larger radius.

Comments?

Ron Merrick


Re: 2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

my camera is a Canon 20D.

Erik Hyjek

nice photography Erik! Canon digital slr?

Tim O'Connor


Dullcote blushing

Doug Polinder
 

Mike Rose's article on using Dullcote and alcohol for blushing effects appeared in the July 2003 RMC.

Doug Polinder
Lowell MI


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Grand Rapids MI

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Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

jaley <jaley@...>
 

Thanks to Charles, Tony, Tim, and Andy for responding to my message. All
have said that there is no such animal as an R-40-23 with a dp roof.

Because this is a factory-assembled model, I will contact IM and see if
they will exchange it.

Regards,

-Jeff

On Feb 12, 7:15pm, Mr Charles burns wrote:
Subject: Re: [STMFC] R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?
Hello Jeff,All
I made some R-40-25s in N by kitbashing a diagonal
panel roof. The ends on the 25's have an extra small
rib at the top, and the dropsteps are a different
style, without the sidesill tab.
The Thompson PFE book {Bible on the cars!} shows all
of these features.
Charlie Burns
ESPEE coastline '64 in N.

--- jaley <jaley@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM
R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal
panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put
the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top
rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/
diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones'
book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM
to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

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Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

Mr Charles burns
 

Hello Jeff,All
I made some R-40-25s in N by kitbashing a diagonal
panel roof. The ends on the 25's have an extra small
rib at the top, and the dropsteps are a different
style, without the sidesill tab.
The Thompson PFE book {Bible on the cars!} shows all
of these features.
Charlie Burns
ESPEE coastline '64 in N.

--- jaley <jaley@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM
R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal
panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put
the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top
rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/
diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones'
book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM
to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

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DPG Chipsets Product Engineering
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533

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Re: 1943 Tank Car Ownerships

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Al Brown wrote:
Columbia Southern Chemical (SACX, PPGX)
No such company. SACX was Southern Alkali (50 cars), PPGX was
Pittsburgh Plate Glass, Columbia Chemical Div (PPGX and CACX 119
cars together). Did these maybe merge later to form Columbia
Southern?
Yes.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: UTLX.

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Arnold wrote:

I'm sorry.....my mistake.
I do mean the 2 revited types, 8.000 & 10.000 gallons.
To the best of my knowledge, UTLX did not own either 8K or 10K Type
27s. Certainly they didn't buy any new from AC&F, and I have never
seen photos of any UTLX Type 27s acquired 2nd hand.

Richard Hendrickson


KCS 15500-155599

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Greg's handout from Cocoa Beach says "freight car Red" for the body color.
Can anyone supply a good match for this car in Pollyscale, or other
waterbase paint.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


TC RPM

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I attended the Twin Cities Prototype modelers meet yesterday. I already posted a link to photos of some of the models displayed. What was the most amazing display to me was from "Rail Yard" models. Bob Rivard displayed some completed models, but the kits were unbelievable. I thought they were plastic models I would have never guessed they were resin castings. There's is no way, any of the resin kits I have seen even come close to the quality of "Rail Yard" . Too bad he only makes modern stuff...maybe not?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Sinclair Refining Tank Cars

Tim Gilbert <tgilbert@...>
 

Bob Lucas wrote:

Note that tank car car counts for several large independent refiners
dropped off significantly in the post-war years. Curious, though,
about Sinclair Refining, which still owned 4,964 cars in 1954. Working with Al Westerfield's ORER on CD, I can only track down 336
ARA-II and ARA-III cars with FMTX (Sinclair Cuba Refining) reporting
marks. What happened to the (SDRX, UNPX, PARX) others? Were these
sold by Sinclair to one of the leasing firms?
UTLX bought the fleet from Sinclair.

Tim Gilbert


Sinclair Refining Tank Cars

Bob Lucas
 

Note that tank car car counts for several large independent refiners
dropped off significantly in the post-war years. Curious, though,
about Sinclair Refining, which still owned 4,964 cars in 1954.
Working with Al Westerfield's ORER on CD, I can only track down 336
ARA-II and ARA-III cars with FMTX (Sinclair Cuba Refining) reporting
marks. What happened to the (SDRX, UNPX, PARX) others? Were these
sold by Sinclair to one of the leasing firms? Bob Lucas


Re: delray connecting railroad

Bob Lucas
 

Bill, a short history of the Delray Connecting appeared some years ago
in the NMRA Division 4 (North Central Region) magazine. From what I
recall, the DCRR mostly performed industrial switching in the
downriver area of Detroit. There was a concentration of heavy
industry on Zug Island including Semet-Solvey Div. Allied Chemical
(who, I believe owned the DCRR for many years), Great Lakes Steel,
Detroit Edison and the U.S. Army's Fort Wayne depot. The Delray ran a
daily turn from Zug Island, the "stone run", until 1953 over the DT&I
to a nearby limestone quarry at Sibley. Presumably, that's how the
hoppers you mention were utilized. The DCRR is still around, though
the "rust belt" industry it served has pretty evaporated. Bob


Re: 2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos

Tim O'Connor
 

nice photography Erik! Canon digital slr?

Tim O'Connor

At 05:11 PM 2/12/2006, you wrote:
I've got all my photos online at,
http://www.pbase.com/ehyjek/rosemount_prototype_modelers_meet_2006
Erik Hyjek


2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 


Re: UTLX.

Bruce Smith
 

On Sun, February 12, 2006 2:28 pm, Arnold wrote:
I'm sorry.....my mistake.
I do mean the 2 revited types, 8.000 & 10.000 gallons.
Arnold,

Yes, sort of, to your original question. As we have noted here to you
previously, UTLX had their own design, the X-3, for riveted tank cars, and
a wonderful series of kit is available in resin from Sunshine, inlcuding
short and long 8K gallon and a 10k Gallon riveted tank. For the majority
of your UTLX cars, these would be most appropriate. However, UTLX did own
a variety of other cars. The cars sold by IM are XC&F type 27 designs.
IRRC (and Richard I'm sure will feel free to correct me), UTLX did have
both 8K and 10K type 27s although not that many (they would have had more
Type 21s, as done by Lifelike). Also be careful as the IM kit I have has
white lettering and UTLX cars all had yellow lettering!! So you'll either
end up wheathing the heck out of it (appropriately) or redoing the
lettering anyway.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?

Andy Carlson
 

Intermountain RR Co., according to Terry Wegmann, had
accidently run a batch of RTR R-40-23's with the DP
roof from the Amarillo club's R-40-25. Since removing
the roof would have brought certain destruction to his
Reefer, Terry removed the lettering and numbers (he
used CA debonder on a Q-Tip), painted some appliances
Orange (over black)and relettered it as a R-40-25.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



--- jaley <jaley@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:

I recently purchased a factory assembled HO scale IM
R-40-23.

I immediately noticed that the car has a diagonal
panel roof. The car is
lettered as an R-40-23.

My first thought was that IM had accidentally put
the wrong paint scheme
on an R-40-25 body, but the ends lack the extra top
rib of the R-40-25.

My question: was there any such car (R-40-23 w/
diagonal panel roof)? I
could not find one in Thompson, Church & Jones'
book.

I thought I'd double-check here before I contact IM
to see if I can get a
replacement.

Thanks,

-Jeff

--
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DPG Chipsets Product Engineering
Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
(916) 356-3533



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