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Intermountain Santa Fe Stockcars
Andy Carlson
Offering to this group a pair (Two) of IM Santa Fe
Stockcar kits with (our own) Ted Culotta's Speedwitch Decals (sheet does 2 cars). Retail priced at $43.40. I am offering these for $37.00, plus $4.00 priority or $2.00 first class shipping. Offered: 2 IM ATSF K Brake Stockcars & one Speedwitch decal set 2 IM ATSF A Brake Stockcars & one Speedwitch decal set Priced per set $37.00 plus shipping I can be contacted at midcentury@sbcglobal.net off-list (please) Thanks, -Andy
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Re: TC RPM
leakinmywaders
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Clark Propst" <cepropst@...> wrote:
already posted a link to photos of some of the models displayed... Clark I was having a gander at those fine shots, and am still looking for the "wenches" on your M&StL TOFC flat...must the retiring kind seldom seen outside of the midwest ;-) j/k--really nice modeling, I always come away inspired when I get a good look at your work. Chris Frissell Polson, MT
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Re: New York Central stock car question
Westerfield <westerfield@...>
I used Bob's Photos's softcovers and the Sirman photos, Rich Burg collection photos, ACF Industies collection and the NYCHS builders photo collection to help prepare the patterns. - Al Westerfield
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From: benjaminfrank_hom To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: New York Central stock car question Bill Welch asked: "Does anyone on the list know of other photos of these early cars?" Two from the Sirman Collection on Terry Link's CASO website: http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-22069.jpg http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-22352.jpg Jeff English replied: "Bob's Photos has several photos of the NYC 22000- and 23000-series stock cars, IIRC." Two are in his softcover "Freight Equipment of the New York Central, Volume 1: Box, Stock & Refrigerator Cars", page 43: NYC 23358 (Silver City, NC, January 28, 1952) and NYC 23334 (Silver City, NC, January 28, 1952). Ben Hom SPONSORED LINKS Train travel Freight car Canada train travel Train travel in italy North american ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "STMFC" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: New York Central stock car question
benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Bill Welch asked:
"Does anyone on the list know of other photos of these early cars?" Two from the Sirman Collection on Terry Link's CASO website: http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-22069.jpg http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-22352.jpg Jeff English replied: "Bob's Photos has several photos of the NYC 22000- and 23000-series stock cars, IIRC." Two are in his softcover "Freight Equipment of the New York Central, Volume 1: Box, Stock & Refrigerator Cars", page 43: NYC 23358 (Silver City, NC, January 28, 1952) and NYC 23334 (Silver City, NC, January 28, 1952). Ben Hom
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Speaking of Decals
golden1014
Brothers,
I'm doing some cleanup and have a few extra HO Champ decals here--free for the taking. They're not more than one year old. Here's the list: HB-7 SAL Box Car, Robert E. Lee HB-8 SAL Box Car, Courteous Service NH-21 ACL Lettering Set, White HB-321 NYC Box Car (mid-1950s style) HN-62 MP White Lettering Set No charge--just drop me a note off-line if you'd like one or all at Golden1014@yahoo.com. John John Golden O'Fallon, IL http://www.pbase.com/golden1014 Hosting the St. Louis RPM Meet 25-26 Aug 2006 9AM to 9PM Gateway Convention Center One Gateway Center Dr. Collinsville, IL, 62234
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Re: New York Central stock car question
Jeff English
Bob's Photos has several photos of the NYC 22000- and 23000-series
stock cars, IIRC Jeff English Troy, New York where the song "Aura Lee" was written (better known in modern times as performed by Elvis as "Love Me Tender") --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "lnbill" <bwelch@...> wrote: as I was doing so I decided I wanted to try to find more photos thanthe one I have. THe one photo I have is from my friend, John King, and Iam not where he got the negative. It is NYC 22080, which was built in1921 from Lot 421 with a reweigh of BG 1-47. The car in the photo has awood roof and DS ends.I am building an example of a car with SS ends. The kit I have has aMurphy roof but I am thinking, after reading a history of the cars, I maytry to get a wood roof from Al.
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Re: wanted: APM Flxible Cl;ipper Bus Model
aaejj2j <tyrone.johnsen@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, PBowers <waiting@...> wrote:
for a American Precision Model HO Flxible Clipper bus for a railcar load.This is the one with the small side windows. A photo of this bus can befound at: <http://www.clic.net/~jacmatte/busfan/models_list/apm39001-3.jpg> > Peter Bowers I believe I have such a model unused. It is orange where your photo is green. I will try to remember to check for it tonight. E-mail if you are still interested. Tyrone Johnsen Rockford, IL
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TC RPM aftermath
rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
Erik, thanks a lot for posting the photos. I REEEAAALY appreciate
it. A few people have asked if last years photos are still posted, and Erik provided me with a link: http://www.pbase.com/ehyjek/2005_minnesota_prototype_modelers_meet Final attendance was down a bit from last year. Around 125 this year compared to almost 200 last year. I need to give thanks and a lot of the credit to all the people that helped with this years meet. Mark Klayum-check in Steve Kopacz Tin Vitelli, and Hudson Leighton for tech assistance in the auditorium. The presenters-Jim Platt, Les Breuer, Doug Hodgdon, Yvonne and Dennis from Loksound, Jim Lawson, Louis Claeson, Bob Ball and Dawn Holmberg, and Clark Propst for helping get the word out on all the groups. I also can't say enough about Maureen over at the community center. She has treated our get together with wonderful hospitality and a professional job very well done. A huge thank you to all the exhibitors for taking the time to pack up their models and share them with all of us. One other quick sidebar...we had groups travel in from Whitefish MT, Iowa, northern Minnesota, and Green Bay. Greg Smith / Apple Valley, MN
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Re: Marklin/Trix R-40-14's
Andy Carlson
David,
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I have a lot of spare parts for Terry's various reefers.If you want a pair of ends (or any other part), State-side modelers can get a pair of the ends for $3.00, postpaid. contact me at midcentury@sbcglobal.net off-list, please. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA --- David Ball <davidball@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Another option would be the Terry's ends from the
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Re: Marklin/Trix R-40-14's
David Ball
That was (broadly) the next question I was going to ask!
Another option would be the Terry's ends from the R-30-18, etc kits. I'm not at home at the moment, but I look at this briefly the other night. I can't remember the how the width compared to the IM R-40- 10, but I remember that they were a few scale inches too long. However from memory this seemed to be in the lower plate below the ribs, so with a bit of slicing and rejoining, they could work The big quest may be if they are available separately. If you need to sacrifice a whole kit, then there wouldn't be any cost advantages over the Trix price (assuming you can correct the discrepancies). Cheers David Ball --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mopacfirst" <ron.merrick@...> wrote: too, but didn't do it).
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New York Central stock car question
lnbill <bwelch@...>
I started working on cleaning up one Al W's NYC stock car kits and as I
was doing so I decided I wanted to try to find more photos than the one I have. THe one photo I have is from my friend, John King, and I am not where he got the negative. It is NYC 22080, which was built in 1921 from Lot 421 with a reweigh of BG 1-47. The car in the photo has a wood roof and DS ends. Does anyone on the list know of other photos of these early cars. I am building an example of a car with SS ends. The kit I have has a Murphy roof but I am thinking, after reading a history of the cars, I may try to get a wood roof from Al. Bill Welch
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Illinois Central GS gondolas questions
lnbill <bwelch@...>
I have a Detail Associates GS gon kit that I have for years planned
to build as an Illinois Central car, but until recently had no good photos to work from. Within the space of few months, all of a sudden I now have four: 94931 blt 8-53 with drop mechanisms in place-1955-Bob's Photo 96337 blt ? with drop mechanisms removed-1975-Bill Raia collection 98279 blt 4-52 with drop mechanisms removed-Nov. 1956-bob's Photo 99/// blt 2-40 with drop mechanisms removed-April 1959-bob' Photo All of these are stenciled with an IL of 41' O" and capacity of 1947 cubic feet. 1955 ORER reveals these cars had an IH of 5 feet. Except for the drop mechanisms being removed, all appear to be pretty much as built. 99/// (I forgot to write the last digits) does have retangular holes cut in the plate to which the sill steps are attached, which look like another place for a foot. It also clearly has the pre-war Dreadnaught ends, but I am not sure if the 1952 and after cars have the postwar Improved Dreadnaught end. BTW, these cars were classed "GB" by the IC. My intent is to build a model of a 1940 example with the drop mechanisms in place. My problem is that gons of the stenciled 1947 cu.ft. capacity do not show up in the ORER's I own until the 1950's. Here is a summary of what I have found. 1943 ORER 2 series a close match 82000-82719 IH & IL as above but w/1956 Cubic feet capacity 85000-85749 IH & IL as above but w/1956 Cubic feet capacity 1955 ORER 2 series an exact match 85000-85999 IH & IL as above w/1947 Cubic feet capacity 94000-95499 IH & IL as above w/1947 Cubic feet capacity My conjecture is that the 1943 ORER capacity is in error. Also it appears a renumbering occured. My questions are for one of these cars in 1953, what number series would the 1940 built cars be in? Out of curiosity I am also interested in who built these various series of cars for the IC? I am not interested in replys about why I am using the DA kit and not the Red Caboose kit. If folks want to dicuss the merits of the two kits, please change the subject line. Bill Welch
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Re: Dullcote problem/gun blush
ed_mines
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg Mahlkov" <mahlkov@...> wrote:
spray the Dullcote, its temperature drops because the pressure in the can isdropping. This causes tiny droplets of moisture in the air to cling to thedroplets of Dullcote, causing the "blushing" or "milky" spots.rented and had to wait for an exceptionally dry day to spray Dullcote. SinceI built my house, my spray painting is done in a heated and air conditionedroom above the garage and I have had no further troubles with Dullcote froma "spray bomb"Greg is exactly right. Spray painters call the defect he describes gun blush. It happens when it's very humid. Droplets of moisture condense on the cold, still wet paint. If the aerosol can of paint chills down a lot that could make the problem worse.(Cans of air brush propellant always did that for me). Ed Mines
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Re: Marklin/Trix R-40-14's
mopacfirst
Has anyone tried using the IM R-40-10 with Detail Associates white
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plastic ends? These are the ends that were originally designed for the Athearn car, and I know they're two or three scale inches too narrow for the IM R-40-23 (I once thought about this conversion too, but didn't do it). The IM kit has the beveled corners to work with the square corner ends, but the Detail Associates W-section end has its own rivets so it might be possible to trim the sides back just a bit. Or is this nuts? Ron Merrick
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Re: Intersting photos on ebay
ed_mines
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, cascaderail <cascaderail@...> wrote:
of- 7_W0QQitemZ6604938387QQcategoryZ35975QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem> A few very nice pics!!!!!!!!!! Ed
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Re: Dullcote blushing
Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
I don't use Dullcote any more because I've switched to acrylic paints, and
Polly Scale Clear Flat is a good flat finish I can thin with distilled water. When I did use Dullcote, though, I NEVER used a spray can (not since about 1965, anyway). I bought my Dullcote in a bottle, thinned it with ordinary (meaning dangerous!) lacquer thinner, and sprayed it with an airbrush. That completely eliminated blushing problems. Well, there was that time I tried weathering a Dullcote-sprayed car with turpentine and oil paint washes, but that's another story. So long, Andy Andy Sperandeo Executive Editor Model Railroader magazine asperandeo@mrmag.com 262-796-8776, ext. 461 FAX 262-796-11142
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Welded tanks and knuckle radius
mopacfirst
Pat Wider posted a builders photo of UTLX 39150 in December. Now
I've looked at this thing more closely, versus all the ACF shots in the Kaminski tank car book, and one more thing that I see is that the knuckle radius on the heads is much larger on this car than on most of the other welded tanks built during the late 40s - early 50s when the welded tanks were first built. (Knuckle radius is a pressure equipment term, the "knuckle" on a tank head being that part between the tangent and the main semi-spherical portion of the head, you might say the "corner".) The dome head on the other hand has a very tight knuckle radius. Question is, first, am I seeing this right? The apparent contour of the tank handrail seems to bear it out. Second, is it a fair conclusion that most of the early welded tanks had a really tight knuckle radius like most riveted tanks did, and this is an anomaly or an experiment? The heads on this car look to me like normal ellipsoidal heads, which I should be able to get from Plastruct or similar. By the way, the Red Caboose model has the really tight radius heads and dome head. It looks like by the mid-fifties, when the Kaminski tank car book ends, the ellipsoidal head had become the normal choice. This makes sense since the larger radii are better for resisting pressure and it may be easier to press a head with the larger radius. Comments? Ron Merrick
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Re: 2006 Rosemount RPM meet photos
rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
my camera is a Canon 20D.
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Erik Hyjek
nice photography Erik! Canon digital slr?
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Dullcote blushing
Doug Polinder
Mike Rose's article on using Dullcote and alcohol for blushing effects appeared in the July 2003 RMC.
Doug Polinder Lowell MI Doug Polinder Grand Rapids MI --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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Re: R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof?
jaley <jaley@...>
Thanks to Charles, Tony, Tim, and Andy for responding to my message. All
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have said that there is no such animal as an R-40-23 with a dp roof. Because this is a factory-assembled model, I will contact IM and see if they will exchange it. Regards, -Jeff
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] R-40-23 w/ diagonal panel roof? --
Jeff Aley jaley@pcocd2.intel.com DPG Chipsets Product Engineering Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA (916) 356-3533
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