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Re: Enough about the New Kadee car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Dream on, Andy, dream on . . .

SGL

I almost hate to mention it to this group, but no one has
considered the possibility that Kadee is joining the ranks of
passenger car
builders! Branchline, Walthers, and now BLI have all been successful
in that market. It can not have escaped Kadee's notice.


regards,

Andy Miller


Re: NP flat kit

Tim O'Connor
 

Chris

I'll bet there is another drawing out there... somewhere.. This is just
a "general plan" drawing. There may be a "bill of materials" or other
auxiliary drawings for every freight car. (He said, hopefully.)

Tim

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
information on brake appliances--e.g.,

http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Flat%20Cars/52%20Ft.%20Flat%20Cars%2064000-195.jpg

So we pretty much are stuck with photo sources (although there could
be relevant data stashed in the NPRHA archives in MN, should anyone
have time to dig for it).


Re: NP flat kit

leakinmywaders
 

Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
information on brake appliances--e.g.,

http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Flat%20Cars/52%20Ft.%20Flat%20Cars%2064000-195.jpg

So we pretty much are stuck with photo sources (although there could
be relevant data stashed in the NPRHA archives in MN, should anyone
have time to dig for it).

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

-- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:
....
Appliances like brake wheels might
change from order to order, or even car to car, so it's best to get the
information from an equipment diagram...

Tim O.


Re: NP flat kit

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Jeff Pape asked:

Can some one provide contact information to enable getting in touch
with Northern Specific?
From Aaron's web site (www.northernspecificmodels.com):

Npin53 (at) northernspecificmodels (dot) com

Tom Madden


Re: NP flat decals and others

leakinmywaders
 

Tim: May have been my own problem somehow. The new pages wouldn't
load until I cleared my Firefox cache--reload button had no effect.
This is not a problem I have had at other sites. Sorry for the fuss.
Thnx,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:

chris, i'm using firefox 1.5.0.1 -- no problem at all


Re: Mystery Freight Yard

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

I don't have my copy of Petty and Mullaly's "The SP in LA" here with me, but
my guess is that "mystery freight yard" isn't Taylor but the older River
Station Yard. That ladder of double slip switches cutting across the middle
of the yard was a feature of River Station Yard, dividing the section known
as the Cornfield from the other end, known as the Bull Ring. But my LA
geography isn't up to identifying which end is which in this photo.

So long,

Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-11142


Re: NP flat kit

Tim O'Connor
 

The W&R brass cars have an elaborate brake wheel, with a fairly
flat profile. I will look at some references tonight and try to figure out
what it is supposed to represent. Appliances like brake wheels might
change from order to order, or even car to car, so it's best to get the
information from an equipment diagram...

Tim O.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Anybody have a a brake wheel recommendation for Northern Specific's
resin NP flat car? The kit instructions are silent on this subject.
Looks like Aaron maybe used the straight-spoked wheel from the Tichy


Mystery Freight Yard

Shawn Beckert
 

Guys,

Every once in awhile the Los Angeles Public Library will post on
their web page a photo that's of interest to this list. This one is a
doozy:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054503.jpg


There is no date given, the caption is simply "Los Angeles Freight
Yard". Because of the large number of SP boxcars in view, I'll take
a guess that it's the original Taylor Yard sometime in the 1920's.
Note the line of cabooses to the left, and the coach yard on the right.

Anybody care to speculate further on the date or location?

Shawn Beckert


Re: NP flat decals and others

leakinmywaders
 

Apologies l:ist and Ted....and i did it twice in row, sheesh.

Fortunately curses against Microsoft are socially acceptable in all
circles (even in the steam era).

Chris Frissell
Polson


Re: NP flat decals and others

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

BTW, it works just fine in Safari and Firefox on my Mac.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni

From: leakinmywaders <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:17:31 -0000
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: NP flat decals and others

Ted: Yup, the new decal page loads in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox. The Speedwitch home page loads different too--an older
version loads in Firefox. You might want to mention that on STMFC.

Now if I can figure out how to get effing Explorer to let me un-block
pop-ups so I can place an order...!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ted Culotta <tculotta@...> wrote:

I just uploaded the new Decals page on the Speedwitch site. Click on
the Decals link from the home page (www.speedwitch.com) Among other
things....


Re: NP flat decals and others

Tim O'Connor
 

chris, i'm using firefox 1.5.0.1 -- no problem at all

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Ted: Yup, the new decal page loads in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox. The Speedwitch home page loads different too--an older
version loads in Firefox. You might want to mention that on STMFC.

Now if I can figure out how to get effing Explorer to let me un-block
pop-ups so I can place an order...!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ted Culotta <tculotta@...> wrote:

I just uploaded the new Decals page on the Speedwitch site. Click on
the Decals link from the home page (www.speedwitch.com) Among other
things....


Re: NP flat decals and others

leakinmywaders
 

Ted: Yup, the new decal page loads in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox. The Speedwitch home page loads different too--an older
version loads in Firefox. You might want to mention that on STMFC.

{Oops, just mis-posted this to the list, so that part is done for you...
my apologies!]

Now if I can figure out how to get effing Explorer to let me un-block
pop-ups so I can place an order...!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: NP flat decals and others

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

Tools:Popup Blocker then select on or off.

Or install OS 10 8^)
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni

From: leakinmywaders <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:17:31 -0000
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: NP flat decals and others

Ted: Yup, the new decal page loads in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox. The Speedwitch home page loads different too--an older
version loads in Firefox. You might want to mention that on STMFC.

Now if I can figure out how to get effing Explorer to let me un-block
pop-ups so I can place an order...!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ted Culotta <tculotta@...> wrote:

I just uploaded the new Decals page on the Speedwitch site. Click on
the Decals link from the home page (www.speedwitch.com) Among other
things....


Re: NP flat decals and others

leakinmywaders
 

Ted: Yup, the new decal page loads in Internet Explorer, but not in
Firefox. The Speedwitch home page loads different too--an older
version loads in Firefox. You might want to mention that on STMFC.

Now if I can figure out how to get effing Explorer to let me un-block
pop-ups so I can place an order...!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Ted Culotta <tculotta@...> wrote:

I just uploaded the new Decals page on the Speedwitch site. Click on
the Decals link from the home page (www.speedwitch.com) Among other
things....


Re: MKT Triples

proto48er
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Kahn" <harumd@...> wrote:

Thanks, Tom
I had hopes of pairing a KTM triple offset with the set of Champ
MKT decals
I had on hand, but I guess it is not to be... I can live better
than some
members of the list with minor discrepancies, but not putting
lettering on a
car that never existed.
Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


Jace,
The Katy had three different groups of triple hoppers. All
the cars had
vertical exterior posts. None were AAR triple offsets. Underneath
ACF
builders photos on the Fallen Flag website there are two builders
shots of
the 40101-40300 cars built in 1948. The 35001-35500 cars were
built in 1949
at Mt. Vernon and the 35501-36000 cars came from Mt. Vernon in
1953. The
ACF cars are the only cars with peaked ends. They were used
primarily for
coal service for the mines in Oklahoma.
Tom Palmer

Jace - M-K-T #40101-40300 can be modeled almost exactly by putting
them on the USH (KTM) #704 triple hopper. The C&O and M-K-T were
the only roads using this prototype in the pre-1960 time period.
That is probably what those Champ decals were made for. A.T. Kott


Re: NP flat kit

leakinmywaders
 

Anybody have a a brake wheel recommendation for Northern Specific's
resin NP flat car? The kit instructions are silent on this subject.
Looks like Aaron maybe used the straight-spoked wheel from the Tichy
kit, but it is flat in cross section, and the prototype wheels, as
best as I can tell, appear to have had spokes descending 2 or 3 inches
concentrically toward the hub.

Also, has anyone checked the deck height on a completed model against
prototype dimensions? I'm wondering if they ride a little high on the
bolsters--if so that could possibly be cured with some simple
modifications. The ORER-listed height to top of sides or platform for
the relevant NP car series is 3ft 11in from rail.

Thanks for getting the decals online, Ted. Best,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: Enough about the New Kadee car

Tim O'Connor
 

I didn't think the AAR alt std hopper came with Andrews trucks. :-)

It's gotta be the hopper.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "S. Busch" <SCSBusch@Worldnet.ATT.Net>

Just so long as it has USRA style [[ real springs ]] Andrews trucks -


Enough about the New Kadee car

S. Busch <SCSBusch@...>
 

Sam Clarke from Kadee says:

Hello Group,
Isn't this fun...guessing, wishing, speculating, hoping, dreaming?
- Just so long as it has USRA style [[ real springs ]] Andrews trucks -

Hah!

- Steve Busch, starting that controversy again
Duncan, SC


Re: Athearn Gondola News

Tim O'Connor
 

Shawn

I'm guessing those C&O cars will be a quick sell out... just like when
Athearn revised the MDC GONX tooling -- the bogus paint jobs moved
slowly but the GONX cars evaporated before they hit the shelves.

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Beckert, Shawn" <shawn.beckert@disney.com>

If I remember rightly from past threads, this car is fairly close to the
prototype for the C&O cars with rounded "heap shields".
Shawn Beckert


Re: Athearn Gondola News

Tim O'Connor
 

You are exactly right Richard. Even Athearn's 'sales' people know
the difference between prototype and fantasy, but it's the sales to
the "I buy what I like" customers that is subsidizing the new tooling
and allowing Athearn to sell excellent models at the lowest prices
of the major vendors.

The announcement doesn't say if the 40 foot gondolas will have wire
grab irons. It just says "ex-MDC tooling". Anyone know if they shaved
off the plastic grabs, as they did with a number of older cars already?

Tim O'Connor

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@opendoor.com>

At least we're getting at least a couple of prototypical models in
each production run, which is better than zero for six.
Richard Hendrickson

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