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Re: Ebay Auction of Richfield Tank Car Slide

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tom Olsen wrote:
Can anyone identify this car
:http://cgi.ebay.com/RICHFIELD-TANK-CAR-ROX-670-COLOR-SLIDE -1972_W0QQitemZ6616232352QQcategoryZ71011QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem
As Tom Madden correctly identified, the car is at Travel Town in Los Angeles. The paint scheme is bogus, as Richfield did not put their emblem on the tank car fleet. I have heard previously that the car number is bogus but don't know that for a fact. The lettering style, at least, looks right.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: Ebay Auction of Richfield Tank Car Slide

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Can anyone identify this car

:http://cgi.ebay.com/RICHFIELD-TANK-CAR-ROX-670-COLOR-SLIDE-
1972_W0QQitemZ6616232352QQcategoryZ71011QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi
ewItem

Car is on display at Travel Town in Griffith Park, Los Angeles last I
checked. Don't know the provenance, but you can still take that photo
(and lots of better ones).

Tom Madden


Re: Ebay Auction of Richfield Tank Car Slide

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 


Re: Railroad Prototype Modeler's meeting - Malvern PA

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bill Lane wrote:
Here are some photos I took last night at the Railroad Prototype
Modeler's meeting in Malvern PA.
I like the idea of the exploded donkey engine (I suppose those are flues sticking out), though it verges on the kind of "cute" thing that always wins popular vote contests. It does seem credible as to appearance.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: Railroad Prototype Modeler's meeting - Malvern PA

al_brown03
 

Neat pictures! Two of the flatcar loads are fascinating:

(1) What's that on/in the well-hole car?

(2) In the load with two stationary boilers, what's the third large
doohickey with what look like tentacles sticking out the top?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Lane" <billlane@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Here are some photos I took last night at the Railroad Prototype
Modeler's meeting in Malvern PA. The meet continues into tonight
and
tomorrow morning with layout tours tomorrow afternoon. If you have
not
been to one of these meets I would highly recommend it. There are
some
really awesome models here, and it is very low key without
contests.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_1.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_2.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_3.jpg

Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Over 100 new photos recently added
Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26
http://www.pennsysmodels.com
<http://www.pennsysmodels.com/>
ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05
Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05
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Re: Boraxo Covered Hopper

Scott Pitzer
 

IIRC one of the displays at that little museum in the town of Boron concerns a publicity event where the company got the mule team and wagons out to celebrate the opening of a rocket fuel plant... circa 1959? But my memory is hazy on that.
I recall asking one of the elderly docents about some of the hand-made models of the wagons on display. Why was one set green with yellow wheels, instead of the familiar light blue with red wheels? She said she didn't know... and she had never noticed that the back wheels were bigger than the front wheels!
I have one of those model kits, once assembled but now mostly fallen apart (and warped) that I'd like to fix up someday. I wonder if any "Plastic Modeler" web sites have a well-finished example? But that's out of scope here. (But notice I'm not backing up and deleting the statement!)
Scott Pitzer

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Sent: Mar 25, 2006 7:42 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Boraxo Covered Hopper

Jim Gerstley wrote:

One of the reasons it may not be listed in Moody's in the 1950's
is that its predecessor was Pacific Coast Borax, wholly owned I
believe by Borax Consolidated Ltd in England. The mines used
to be underground, prior to the open pit. CHAMP used to make
a great decal for the covered hopper--both BORAXO and
POLYBORCHLORATE, tho haven't seen the latter in decades.
Some of the uses included boric acid, weed killer, soap,
spangles [for dance floors], glass and ceramics. And now its
also used in control rods for nuclear reactors. At one time
boron fuels were also considered.
Two oil companies (DX and Richfield) advertised boron as an additive
in their gasolines back in the '50s, and Sohio went even further with
its Boron brand gas stations.

Tom Madden, recalling that old teenage knee-slapper about the sow who
walked into the gas station and said "I'll take your boar on".






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Railroad Prototype Modeler's meeting - Malvern PA

Bill Lane <billlane@...>
 

Hi All,

Here are some photos I took last night at the Railroad Prototype
Modeler's meeting in Malvern PA. The meet continues into tonight and
tomorrow morning with layout tours tomorrow afternoon. If you have not
been to one of these meets I would highly recommend it. There are some
really awesome models here, and it is very low key without contests.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_1.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_2.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/RPM_3.jpg

Thank You,
Bill Lane
Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957
See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Over 100 new photos recently added
Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26 http://www.pennsysmodels.com
<http://www.pennsysmodels.com/>
ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05
Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05
***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com


Re: Boraxo Covered Hopper

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Jim Gerstley wrote:

One of the reasons it may not be listed in Moody's in the 1950's
is that its predecessor was Pacific Coast Borax, wholly owned I
believe by Borax Consolidated Ltd in England. The mines used
to be underground, prior to the open pit. CHAMP used to make
a great decal for the covered hopper--both BORAXO and
POLYBORCHLORATE, tho haven't seen the latter in decades.
Some of the uses included boric acid, weed killer, soap,
spangles [for dance floors], glass and ceramics. And now its
also used in control rods for nuclear reactors. At one time
boron fuels were also considered.
Two oil companies (DX and Richfield) advertised boron as an additive
in their gasolines back in the '50s, and Sohio went even further with
its Boron brand gas stations.

Tom Madden, recalling that old teenage knee-slapper about the sow who
walked into the gas station and said "I'll take your boar on".


Re: Railroad Prototype Modeler's meeting - Malvern PA

artrich999@...
 

Al;
It looks to me like a donkey engine boiler that has exploded!

---
Art Richardson
Clinton, MS


Re: Boraxo Covered Hopper

jim gerstley
 

One of the reasons it may not be listed in Moody's in the 1950's
is that its predecessor was Pacific Coast Borax, wholly owned I
believe by Borax Consolidated Ltd in England. The mines used
to be underground, prior to the open pit. CHAMP used to make
a great decal for the covered hopper--both BORAXO and
POLYBORCHLORATE, tho haven't seen the latter in decades.
Some of the uses included boric acid, weed killer, soap,
spangles [for dance floors], glass and ceramics. And now its
also used in control rods for nuclear reactors. At one time
boron fuels were also considered.
Jim Gerstley

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Garth Groff <ggg9y@...> wrote:

John,

Borax is a useful mineral, and is an ingredient in many
manufactured
products, including steel, glass, and yes, soap. U.S. Borax &
Chemical
has for years operated a large open pit mine at Boron,
California, in
the Mojave Desert. By a tedious web search I was only able to
find that
they have a refinery at Wilmington, California, as well as at
Boron
itself. For some reason, this company was not listed in the
1950s
MOODY'S INDUSTRIALS I consulted (normally a great source
of information
on industrial plant locations). This doesn't help much, but my
best
guess is that most of the Boraxo cars shuttled between Boron
and
Wilmington.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

John Teeple wrote:

Now that my question about the Linde box car has been
answered here is
another. I recently purchased an Atlas covered hopper with
Boraxo Soap
logo etc. I bought it because I liked the lettering. Admit it you
all
have done this. Problem is that I do not know what would
have been
hauled in this car. I assume it would have come for California
but what
were they hauling and where would it be going. Was it literally
a car
full of Boraxo soap?


Re: Mystery Freight Yard

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Beckert, Shawn wrote:
Every once in awhile the Los Angeles Public Library will post on
their web page a photo that's of interest to this list. This one is a
doozy:
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics40/00054503.jpg
There is no date given, the caption is simply "Los Angeles Freight
Yard". Because of the large number of SP boxcars in view, I'll take
a guess that it's the original Taylor Yard sometime in the 1920's.
Note the line of cabooses to the left, and the coach yard on the right.
Andy Sperandeo is right: this is River Station yard. The same photo is in my SP Freight Cars Volume 1 in the stock car section. As I noted there, I cannot find a car in this photo which I know to have been built later than 1901, so I think the 1920s estimate is way late. I see none of the "medallion-less" paint schemes adopted by SP and UP in 1909, so it may well be earlier than that.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: 1/4" scale CV/GTW boxcar

Martin McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...>
 

Ted,

Thanks for reminding me. Now that you mention it, I remember it.

CDS makes the best set of lettering for the car (in HO) -- I'm not
sure, but I believe they made lettering for the car in O as well.

I'm working up some artwork for a complete set of CV decals -- I'm
planning to send it to Ted Culotta if he wants to add it to his line.
I'll be happy to provide you with the artwork to have O scale decals
made.

I don't suppose you have any of the kits left, do you ?

Marty

On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Ted Schnepf wrote:

Hi Marty,

My company, Rails Unlimited offered the car in resin several years
ago, in two versions, with or without end door. Do you know of a
source of O scale GTW/ CV decals for the car? I will hope to offer
the car again if lettering can be found or developed.

Ted

At 08:50 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

Does anyone recall if someone, somewhere along the line, has made a
resin kit for a CV/GTW
1-1/2 door boxcar (the CV's 41000-series with the auto end doors).

I'm trying to complete a list of commercial CV products -- I thought
I remembered this car
being available in O scale, but can't recall from whom or if it's
still available.

Thanks,

Marty McGuirk
Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
railsunl@foxvalley.net
847-697-5353 or 5366
126 Will Scarlet
Elgin, Ill. 60120
http://users.foxvalley.net/~railsunl/

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Re: 1/4" scale CV/GTW boxcar

Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...>
 

Hi Marty,

My company, Rails Unlimited offered the car in resin several years ago, in two versions, with or without end door. Do you know of a source of O scale GTW/ CV decals for the car? I will hope to offer the car again if lettering can be found or developed.

Ted

At 08:50 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

Does anyone recall if someone, somewhere along the line, has made a resin kit for a CV/GTW
1-1/2 door boxcar (the CV's 41000-series with the auto end doors).

I'm trying to complete a list of commercial CV products -- I thought I remembered this car
being available in O scale, but can't recall from whom or if it's still available.

Thanks,

Marty McGuirk
Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
railsunl@foxvalley.net
847-697-5353 or 5366
126 Will Scarlet
Elgin, Ill. 60120
http://users.foxvalley.net/~railsunl/

Model Railroad Sales and Service with
a personal touch.
Books new and used. HO and O scales.
DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars.
Photos and darkroom services.
Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 3% added).


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FW&D flats

Rupert and Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

I'm trying to identify when the Fort Worth & Denver purchased 36 x FM-14/14A flat cars (89100-89599 series) from CB&Q, renumbered them to 641-676. The first six were shown on the roster by October 1951, with bulkheads for plaster board loading and there were 30 listed by October 1955

Can anyone identify more accurately when any of these were transferred to FW&D?

Any suggestions or leads to other FW&D information sources would be appreciated.


Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


Re: new Kadee car

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

I've been gone for a week and thought I'd stop by the site to see
what's cooking.
I mentioned before I spotted the new car in a video Kadee had
running in their booth at a train show in St Paul. When I mention to
freinds I know what the new model is they get all excited, until I
tell them, then it's "oh well..."
Some of you guys are real close, one even nailed it.
April's coming, See ya,
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Enough about the New Kadee car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Dream on, Andy, dream on . . .

SGL

I almost hate to mention it to this group, but no one has
considered the possibility that Kadee is joining the ranks of
passenger car
builders! Branchline, Walthers, and now BLI have all been successful
in that market. It can not have escaped Kadee's notice.


regards,

Andy Miller


Re: NP flat kit

Tim O'Connor
 

Chris

I'll bet there is another drawing out there... somewhere.. This is just
a "general plan" drawing. There may be a "bill of materials" or other
auxiliary drawings for every freight car. (He said, hopefully.)

Tim

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "leakinmywaders" <leakinmywaders@yahoo.com>
Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
information on brake appliances--e.g.,

http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Flat%20Cars/52%20Ft.%20Flat%20Cars%2064000-195.jpg

So we pretty much are stuck with photo sources (although there could
be relevant data stashed in the NPRHA archives in MN, should anyone
have time to dig for it).


Re: NP flat kit

leakinmywaders
 

Tim: As you might have noticed, NP diagrams seldom offer useful
information on brake appliances--e.g.,

http://research.nprha.org/NP%20Flat%20Cars/52%20Ft.%20Flat%20Cars%2064000-195.jpg

So we pretty much are stuck with photo sources (although there could
be relevant data stashed in the NPRHA archives in MN, should anyone
have time to dig for it).

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

-- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:
....
Appliances like brake wheels might
change from order to order, or even car to car, so it's best to get the
information from an equipment diagram...

Tim O.


Re: NP flat kit

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Jeff Pape asked:

Can some one provide contact information to enable getting in touch
with Northern Specific?
From Aaron's web site (www.northernspecificmodels.com):

Npin53 (at) northernspecificmodels (dot) com

Tom Madden


Re: NP flat decals and others

leakinmywaders
 

Tim: May have been my own problem somehow. The new pages wouldn't
load until I cleared my Firefox cache--reload button had no effect.
This is not a problem I have had at other sites. Sorry for the fuss.
Thnx,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, timboconnor@... wrote:

chris, i'm using firefox 1.5.0.1 -- no problem at all

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