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Replacing Leaf Springs

Justin Kahn <jacekahn@...>
 

Although I have been out of HO for nearly twenty-five years, I would guess the "Walthers" leaf springs were part of the Silver Streak line from when Walthers bought it. They always worked well and looked convincing (at least in that simpler time). I would not be surprised if PSC didn't have some, too.
I am a bit puzzled by Norm's saying that EACH side of EACH truck required two leaf springs, as I don't recall ever seeing any like that, not even in O scale.
Jace Kahn



Back in pre-history, Walthers had replacement leaf
springs. However they have not be offered for a decade or
so. I understand Precision Scale has replacement leaf
springs as part of their product line.
Mike Carson
: Going through my hell-box I came across a pair of tender
trucks which had
: been put out to pasture because a leaf-spring broke and
another is on
: permanent vacation in a dense pile carpet.
:
: I can (and have) replaced coil springs for
freight/passenger car trucks,
: but where can I get or how can I make replacement leaf
springs that at
: least look plausible. >: uniformity. FWIW, each truck uses 4 leaf springs, two on
each side, that
: are about .060"/1.5mm wide and it looks like it would be a
small major
: project to convert them to coil springs.
:
: Norm
:

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Re: Shell Tank Cars

Bruce F. Smith V.M.D., Ph.D. <smithbf@...>
 

(Shell of Calif. did put Shell logos above
the reporting marks on some cars in the 1950s, as correctly represented by
Life-Like's 8K gal. AC&F Type 21 models.)
The 50s! Oh poop another car into the trash can.

Ned
Not so fast Ned, I think the car is OK if you remove the logo (please
correct me if I'm wrong!), and it isn't that hard to do! (and then you have
different car from the "masses" <G>). First try solvaset (or other decal
solution) with a pencil eraser, and move on to grit blasting if that
doesn't work.

Happy Rails
Bruce

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Re: Shell Tank Cars

Charles Morrill <badlands@...>
 

Did the aluminum paint with black lettering schemes on Shell tank cars as
pictured in the RP Cyc last through the '40s?
Charlie

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To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Shell Tank Cars


Off hand I remember a yellow Shell tank car...
Doesn't our guru Hendrickson state that there was no such paint scheme?
I've never said that. There is documentary evidence that some cars were
delivered in the 1920s to SEPX (Shell Eastern Products) and RPX (Roxana
Petroleum) with yellow tanks and red billboard lettering. What I HAVE
said
is that those paint schemes didn't last long, the photographic evidence
showing that all of the Shell affiliates went to a more practical black
with white stenciling in the 1930s, and that numerous models with yellow
tanks and red lettering purporting to represent cars in service in the
1940s and later are all bogus. (Shell of Calif. did put Shell logos above
the reporting marks on some cars in the 1950s, as correctly represented by
Life-Like's 8K gal. AC&F Type 21 models.)

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520




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Re: Replacing Leaf Springs

BillD53A@...
 

I'm Bill Donahue, have to startsigning my name to my posts...sorry for any
confusion. Bill Donahue


Re: Replacing Leaf Springs

BillD53A@...
 

I dont know of anyone who makes leaf springs anymore. BC Models makes arch
bar trucks with leaf springs; I believe these are cast metal. Tichy Train
Group makes plastic bettendorf trucks; one type has one leaf/onecoil spring
per side; another type has two leaf springs per side. Bill


Re: RY Proto CYC

mbcarson2002
 

Ed,

Thank you for the information. I believe you had
posted information about the content of next Volume earlier,
but missing bit was when we might expect the next issue.

As my earlier posting stated you and all those associated
with RPC have done an excellent job of publishing a world
class serial. Personally, I understand that work of the
caliber of RPC requires a lot of time to accomplish and
implies the interval between volumes is numbered in months
rather than weeks.

Thank you,

Mike Carson

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To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 25 January, 2002 00:03
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RY Proto CYC


:
: In a message dated 1/24/02 9:45:51 PM,
mbcarson@together.net writes:
:
: >October 2001, IIRC. I guess we could quibble if
: >October is more than a couple months ago. The older I
get
: >the faster time seems to go, but Volume 6 came out after
the
: >warm weather left Vermont. After I replied to your
question,
: >I checked the RPC website and it was silent about the
next
: >issue/volume.
:
: Mike,
:
: Volume 7 is in work and anticipated for release this
spring (perhaps April).
: It will contain a relatively long article on express
refrigerator cars, EMD
: F3 Phase III locomotives, and one freight car article that
for now will be a
: surprise. The text for articles is essentially complete
and we've been
: working on scanning photos. The page layout phase will
begin very soon. We
: will update the web site when we have a known target date
for Vol. 7
: completion.
:
: Regarding difficulties reported earlier today encountered
with accessing the
: RP CYC web site, I too had problems today and contacted
the AOL technical
: support staff for an explanation. No reply at this time.
As of 11:00 pm CST,
: it is still not functioning properly. We have made no
changes lately so it
: must be a system problem.
:
: Regards,
: Ed Hawkins
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Re: Back Issues

schroederbears <schroeder.bears@...>
 

--- In STMFC@y..., "schroederbears" <schroeder.bears@g...> wrote:

oops, sorry for that one...


Re: Back Issues

schroederbears <schroeder.bears@...>
 

--- In STMFC@y..., Earl Tuson <etuson@y...> wrote:
Well, I doubt I have as many back issues as Paul Gibson or these
other folks,
but my wife and I have peddling the late Harry Frye's magazine
collection at
local train shows here in NH. It is beginning to get somewhat
picked over,
with most of the higher value mags gone, but I might as well get
the word out
here. It has been our intent to "finish" with this endeavor this
April, as we
don't feel we can continue to cover table costs after that point.
If you need
something, send a message to trainmags@y... .

As for the ARA steel boxcar article in the 6/98 RMJ, that one got
cut out and
placed into my binder...
Earl,

do you have Model Railroading 1996 June available ?



thanks

Bernd Schroeder

Earl Tuson

From: "Michael Carson" <mbcarson@t...>

I don't know of another back issue source with a web
presence. The classified ads in the February 2002 Model
Railroader list two other sources; the San Diego Model
Railroad Museum and Wesley Wolf of Kent, OH. Mr. Wolf, I
think, just recently bought out a long time east coast back
issue dealer.

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Re: Other freight car modeling inspirations

Schuyler G Larrabee <SGL2@...>
 

One more here . . .

SGL

Same book, same experience! I just bought copy on
ebay a few years ago to relive it.

Ted Culotta

--- scott459 <scott459@msn.com> wrote:
Perhaps my first exposure to "the world of freight
cars" was, (drumroll please...) "The Big Book of
Real Trains."
It had cutaway views and explanations of how steam
and diesel locomotives work, and diagrams showing
what train crew members do. Then there were at
least a dozen large illustrations (color paintings
or pencil sketches) of various freight car types.
Off hand I remember a yellow Shell tank car (yes, I
know plain schemes were much more common) and an NKP
gon being loaded with pipe.
I still have the book and I've always intended to
look up the car numbers in the ORER as a starting
point for modeling at least one of the cars-- as it
really was, not relying on the book.
Anyone else already gone this route?

Scott Pitzer



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Re: Shell Tank Cars

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

I got a couple of those (P2K) also, anyone for a trade--50's tanks for 30's
tanks.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Shell Tank Cars

thompson@...
 

Richard replies:
I've never said that...What I HAVE said
is that numerous models with yellow
tanks and red lettering purporting to represent cars in service in the
1940s and later are all bogus.
Thanks for clearing this up.

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Re: Shell Tank Cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Off hand I remember a yellow Shell tank car...
Doesn't our guru Hendrickson state that there was no such paint scheme?
I've never said that. There is documentary evidence that some cars were
delivered in the 1920s to SEPX (Shell Eastern Products) and RPX (Roxana
Petroleum) with yellow tanks and red billboard lettering. What I HAVE said
is that those paint schemes didn't last long, the photographic evidence
showing that all of the Shell affiliates went to a more practical black
with white stenciling in the 1930s, and that numerous models with yellow
tanks and red lettering purporting to represent cars in service in the
1940s and later are all bogus. (Shell of Calif. did put Shell logos above
the reporting marks on some cars in the 1950s, as correctly represented by
Life-Like's 8K gal. AC&F Type 21 models.)

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: Shell Tank Cars

Ned Carey <westernmd@...>
 

(Shell of Calif. did put Shell logos above
the reporting marks on some cars in the 1950s, as correctly represented by
Life-Like's 8K gal. AC&F Type 21 models.)
The 50s! Oh poop another car into the trash can.

Ned


Back Issues

Earl Tuson
 

Well, I doubt I have as many back issues as Paul Gibson or these other folks,
but my wife and I have peddling the late Harry Frye's magazine collection at
local train shows here in NH. It is beginning to get somewhat picked over,
with most of the higher value mags gone, but I might as well get the word out
here. It has been our intent to "finish" with this endeavor this April, as we
don't feel we can continue to cover table costs after that point. If you need
something, send a message to trainmags@yahoo.com .

As for the ARA steel boxcar article in the 6/98 RMJ, that one got cut out and
placed into my binder...

Earl Tuson

From: "Michael Carson" <mbcarson@together.net>

I don't know of another back issue source with a web
presence. The classified ads in the February 2002 Model
Railroader list two other sources; the San Diego Model
Railroad Museum and Wesley Wolf of Kent, OH. Mr. Wolf, I
think, just recently bought out a long time east coast back
issue dealer.

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Re: RY Proto CYC

mbcarson2002
 

October 2001, IIRC. I guess we could quibble if
October is more than a couple months ago. The older I get
the faster time seems to go, but Volume 6 came out after the
warm weather left Vermont. After I replied to your question,
I checked the RPC website and it was silent about the next
issue/volume.

Mike Carson

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Sent: Thursday, 24 January, 2002 22:14
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RY Proto CYC


: Was it only a couple of months ago?
: WOW
: Thank you
: Larry Jackman
:
: Michael Carson wrote:
: >
: > Larry,
: >
: > Don't think so. Volume 6 "just" hit the streets
a
: > couple of months ago. And my appreciation is there is a
: > hell of a lot of work that goes into each volume.
: > Personally I would rather have them come with the usual
: > preparation and maintain the quality rather than hurry
and
: > have the quality suffer.
: >
: > Regards,
: >
: >
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Re: RY Proto CYC

ljack70117@...
 

Was it only a couple of months ago?
WOW
Thank you
Larry Jackman

Michael Carson wrote:


Larry,

Don't think so. Volume 6 "just" hit the streets a
couple of months ago. And my appreciation is there is a
hell of a lot of work that goes into each volume.
Personally I would rather have them come with the usual
preparation and maintain the quality rather than hurry and
have the quality suffer.

Regards,


Re: Other freight car modeling inspirations

mbcarson2002
 

But then again children's books aren't noted as
reliable prototype reference material. First the interest,
then later (in certain cases, infinitely later) the
discipline of prototype fidelity.

Mike Carson

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Sent: Thursday, 24 January, 2002 20:51
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Other freight car modeling inspirations


: >> Off hand I remember a yellow Shell tank car...
:
: Doesn't our guru Hendrickson state that there was no
such paint scheme?
:
: Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley,
CA
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Re: Replacing Leaf Springs

mbcarson2002
 

Norm,

Back in pre-history, Walthers had replacement leaf
springs. However they have not be offered for a decade or
so. I understand Precision Scale has replacement leaf
springs as part of their product line.

Hope it helps,

Mike Carson

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From: "Norm Dresner" <ndrez@att.net>
To: "steamfreight" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 24 January, 2002 21:01
Subject: [STMFC] Replacing Leaf Springs


: Going through my hell-box I came across a pair of tender
trucks which had
: been put out to pasture because a leaf-spring broke and
another is on
: permanent vacation in a dense pile carpet.
:
: I can (and have) replaced coil springs for
freight/passenger car trucks,
: but where can I get or how can I make replacement leaf
springs that at
: least look plausible. I'm willing to replace every one if
necessary to get
: uniformity. FWIW, each truck uses 4 leaf springs, two on
each side, that
: are about .060"/1.5mm wide and it looks like it would be a
small major
: project to convert them to coil springs.
:
: Thanks
: Norm
:
:
: (Humble apologies if this is a duplicate posting; my
reader/e-mail program
: occasionally does some undecipherable things).
:
:
:
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Replacing Leaf Springs

Norm Dresner <ndrez@...>
 

Going through my hell-box I came across a pair of tender trucks which had
been put out to pasture because a leaf-spring broke and another is on
permanent vacation in a dense pile carpet.

I can (and have) replaced coil springs for freight/passenger car trucks,
but where can I get or how can I make replacement leaf springs that at
least look plausible. I'm willing to replace every one if necessary to get
uniformity. FWIW, each truck uses 4 leaf springs, two on each side, that
are about .060"/1.5mm wide and it looks like it would be a small major
project to convert them to coil springs.

Thanks
Norm


(Humble apologies if this is a duplicate posting; my reader/e-mail program
occasionally does some undecipherable things).


Re: Other freight car modeling inspirations

thompson@...
 

Off hand I remember a yellow Shell tank car...
Doesn't our guru Hendrickson state that there was no such paint scheme?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history

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