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Re: Forwarded message

RichBeau <RichBeau@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Mike Brock" <brockm@...> wrote:

Rich sent his message to me by mistake.

Mike Brock
Ya wooda thunk I new b'ter :-D

--Rich


Re: Modeler's Guide to Steel Boxcars (or "Boxcars for Dummies")

Roger Parry <uncleroger@...>
 

Yes, I would like a copy too!

On Apr 14, 2006, at 8:31 PM, RichBeau wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Roger Parry <uncleroger@...> wrote:

I believe I was present at Naperville that year and was very
impressed. The NMRA has this available??
On Apr 13, 2006, at 9:19 AM, lnbill wrote:

The NMRA sells a video they shot of a convention
presentation I did one year entitled something
like "A History of the Forty Foot Boxcar as Told
Through Models" that was originally developed for
presentation at Sunshine Models Naperville
gathering around 1995-96. It started about 1910 I
think with a Harriman design and goes through 1955
with an AAR welded steel design. I think you can
check it out through the library there.

Many of the folks on this list have seen this
presentation, and from the feedback I received at
the time, there were no major errors, or even
minor ones.

Bill Welch


Bill

I'm wondering if I can get my hands on my very own copy of this
somewhere? Would you have any leads?

Thanks for the tip.
--Rich







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Re: Assembling Resin Stock Cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Sandifer wrote:
As for the UP stock cars, the new Red Caboose model is very close I believe. Wait a month or two and see if it is an option for you.
No surprise: the SP class modeled was chosen because UP had them too.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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Re: Assembling Resin Stock Cars

Steve Sandifer <jssand@...>
 

My first resin kit was a Westerfield ATSF Sk-2 stock car. It too, 8 hours to completion, paint, decals, and weather. Intermountain ATSF reefers took 4 hours. I carefully!! used a 1/4 sheet electric sander in a stand to remove the flashing. the sander was secure and I held the side in my hand to control pressure. Worked fine for me.

As for the UP stock cars, the new Red Caboose model is very close I believe. Wait a month or two and see if it is an option for you.
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Subject: [STMFC] Assembling Resin Stock Cars


In a message dated 4/11/2006 10:39:28 PM Central Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes:
Speaking of Westerfield Models. I have been thinking about getting
some of their Union Pacific Stock Cars. I need around 12 of them.
How hard are they to assemble? I have assembled Intermountain and Red
Caboose but never a resin kit before. Any thoughts or tips on these
stock cars?

Resin stock cars are probably the most time consuming, but no more difficult
that any other resin kit. The time factor is due to the fact that you have to
sand the sides to remove flash from between the individual boards. That
takes a lot of time and you have to be careful not to sand too much. Twelve stock
cars is going to be a big task, but if you do it in an assembly line fashion,
it would be tolerable. Just don't expect to turn out a car an evening.

Jerry Michels






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Forwarded message

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Rich sent his message to me by mistake.

Mike Brock


Re: Modeler's Guide to Steel Boxcars (or "Boxcars for Dummies")

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "stefanelaine" <stefanelaine@...> wrote:

Rich,
The latest issue of Model Railroader has just such an article by
Tony
Koester. I would also advise joining the Renselaer Model RR Society
(nominal charge for access to their website) and perusing John
Nehrich's freight car info on the site, which gives good details
about
many available boxcar kits, some history and photos as well.
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/
Hope that helps
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC Canada

Stefan

I have also heard from a number of other mebers about the Renselaer Model RR Society. I had always wondered about it's depth of information but since hearing from so many other members of it's utility I have purchased a membership.

BTW The thread started with me asking about the usefulness and accuracy of the MR article.

--Rich


Re: Prototype for Front Range 50' Steel boxcar IDE, 8'Ygstn door,diagonal pnl roof

Greg Martin
 

Stefan,

You didn't tell us if the car was a single door or a double door, however it makes no difference, but the best thing I would suggest in either case is to strip the car, remove the rivest to simulate a welded car and look for a prototype along those lines, for if it is a single door car you are locked into a very limited range of prototypes all beyond your era.

Greg Martin

-----Original Message-----
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To: STMFC@...
Sent: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:19:00 -0000
Subject: [STMFC] Prototype for Front Range 50' Steel boxcar IDE, 8'Ygstn door,diagonal pnl roof


Anotyher one I'm not sure about! I found this FR car in storgae painted
and lettered for ATSF 12369 BX70 with large DF logo and "Ship and
travel" slogan with 7-56 reweigh and built dates. Any accurate
prototypes for this one? (I model SP 1954-56)
Any help from listmembers appreciated as always!
Stefan Lerche'







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Re: Modeler's Guide to Steel Boxcars (or "Boxcars for Dummies")

RichBeau <RichBeau@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Roger Parry <uncleroger@...> wrote:

I believe I was present at Naperville that year and was very
impressed. The NMRA has this available??
On Apr 13, 2006, at 9:19 AM, lnbill wrote:

The NMRA sells a video they shot of a convention
presentation I did one year entitled something
like "A History of the Forty Foot Boxcar as Told
Through Models" that was originally developed for
presentation at Sunshine Models Naperville
gathering around 1995-96. It started about 1910 I
think with a Harriman design and goes through 1955
with an AAR welded steel design. I think you can
check it out through the library there.

Many of the folks on this list have seen this
presentation, and from the feedback I received at
the time, there were no major errors, or even
minor ones.

Bill Welch


Bill

I'm wondering if I can get my hands on my very own copy of this
somewhere? Would you have any leads?

Thanks for the tip.
--Rich


PRR Builders photos for sale

Bill Lane <billlane@...>
 

Hi All,

I had my darkroom up and running last year to print some of my Builders
Photos. I had a few extra copies that I am offering for sale in 1 lot for a
reasonable price. These are 8 x 10 B&W photos printed from 4 x 5 copy
negatives taken of first generation PRR Builders Photos. They are all in
good condition showing lots of details. The interesting car is the X23a,
which has no roof. It was intended to be used in Coke service.

Class Car# Photo# View
Gr 166176 E9818 Side
G23 306001 ME4757 Side
G26 439048 E8963 Side
F22 435337 E13595 Side
X23a 340031 E13039 Side
X23a 340031 E13040 3/4 View
X23a 340031 E13041 End
X23a 340031 E13042 Overhead End
G27 347000 E10448 B End (with end dropped
down)

Remember these are not first generation prints. I printed them last January.

The first paid offer of $35.00 gets them all, mailing included. I MUCH
prefer to use PayPal if your account is NOT linked to a credit card. My
PayPal ID is this email address billlane@... I will reply to the
first offer then make the payment arrangements. If you do not hear back from
me within 1 day the photos have been sold.

Thank You,
Bill Lane

Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957

See my finished models at:
http://www.lanestrains.com
Over 100 new photos recently added

Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26
http://www.pennsysmodels.com

ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05
Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05
The G26 is complete. The G26a is currently in production.

***Join the PRR T&HS***
The other members are not ALL like me!
http://www.prrths.com


Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door Boxcar [1955].

Arnold van Heyst
 

Mr. Groff,

Thanks for sort this out for us.
In that case any "50's truck" will do, i think.

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.

--- In STMFC@..., Garth Groff <ggg9y@...> wrote:

Arnold,

The car is sorta-kinda accurate. The sill is wrong (should arc-lip
type)
and it has a 9' door vs. 8' on the prototype. Otherwise, it is a
pretty
good stand-in for WP series 3011-3050. You should bookmark my WP
freight
car site: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/wp.html .


Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Arnold wrote:

Sirs,

Recently purchased by me is a Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door
Boxcar "new 1955".
http://www.yesteryearmodels.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=YM&Product_Code=YYM51401&Category_Code=YYfreig
htc
arsho
I've replaced the couplers with Kadee #78 types,
but i will like to know the truck type of this car.
Any idea?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.





Nomenclature (Was: Western Pacific 50' PS-1)

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Garth Groff wrote:
The car is sorta-kinda accurate.
I nominate Garth for the nomenclature award this month, for providing us a category between "Man, it's BAD" and "fairly close."

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door Boxcar [1955].

Garth Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Arnold,

The car is sorta-kinda accurate. The sill is wrong (should arc-lip type) and it has a 9' door vs. 8' on the prototype. Otherwise, it is a pretty good stand-in for WP series 3011-3050. You should bookmark my WP freight car site: http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ggg9y/wp.html .


Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Arnold wrote:

Sirs,

Recently purchased by me is a Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door Boxcar "new 1955".
http://www.yesteryearmodels.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=YM&Product_Code=YYM51401&Category_Code=YYfreightc
arsho
I've replaced the couplers with Kadee #78 types,
but i will like to know the truck type of this car.
Any idea?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.



Re: NYC 70-ton triple hoppers - USRA trucks??

David Smith <dsmith@...>
 

And I just love that nice smooth, uniform coal load, just like all the
cast ones ;-)

Dave Smith


Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door Boxcar [1955].

Arnold van Heyst
 

Sirs,

Recently purchased by me is a Western Pacific 50' PS-1 Single Door
Boxcar "new 1955".
http://www.yesteryearmodels.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Store_Code=YM&Product_Code=YYM51401&Category_Code=YYfreightc
arsho
I've replaced the couplers with Kadee #78 types,
but i will like to know the truck type of this car.
Any idea?

Arnold van Heyst
Netherlands.


Prototype for Front Range 50' Steel boxcar IDE, 8'Ygstn door,diagonal pnl roof

oliver
 

Anotyher one I'm not sure about! I found this FR car in storgae painted
and lettered for ATSF 12369 BX70 with large DF logo and "Ship and
travel" slogan with 7-56 reweigh and built dates. Any accurate
prototypes for this one? (I model SP 1954-56)
Any help from listmembers appreciated as always!
Stefan Lerche'


Re: Modeler's Guide to Steel Boxcars (or "Boxcars for Dummies")

oliver
 

Rich,
The latest issue of Model Railroader has just such an article by Tony
Koester. I would also advise joining the Renselaer Model RR Society
(nominal charge for access to their website) and perusing John
Nehrich's freight car info on the site, which gives good details about
many available boxcar kits, some history and photos as well.
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/
Hope that helps
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC Canada

--- In STMFC@..., "RichBeau" <RichBeau@...> wrote:

As the resident newbie I've not found a solid "Boxcars for Dummies" (or
a Complete Idiot's Guide to Boxcars for that matter). It sure would be
nice to have a resource for this sort of info.

In fact there's only two choices; the Kalmbach Guiode to Freight Cars
or start pulling on the tail of the Ouroborous.

--Rich
who's really not a shill


central PA manufacturers

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Justin Kahn" <harumd@...> wrote:

I can't say I know, but it seems more than coincidence that the
late Ken
Tompkins of Keystone Locomotive Works located right up the street
from Bob
Weaver in Northumberland. I have always suspected that he did the
casting
for QC and Bob in turn cut the wood for KLW kits. I'd be
interested to
learn whether there is any substance to my suspicion.
I visited Qualitycraft in the early '80s and Bob showed me his
casting equipment. Bob had a lot of older ladies who worked for him
part time picking parts for kits. Bob had excellent models of almost
everything he made a kit for. Bob was a big, tall guy, about 60,
semiretired, and he told me that he'd sold insurance.
Interestingly, Bob was an O scale modeler, Union Pacific I think. He
told me his son in law built a couple of the models on display; I
guess the son in law runs the business now.
I asked Bob how he bent such perfect stirrup steps and he took out a
piece of flat wire and bent it for me perfectly.

Ed


Re: SP Stock Car

Peter J. McClosky <pmcclosky@...>
 

I thought I would share this neat image of a T&NO stock car I found at the Los Angeles Public Library web site.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics30/00049745.jpg

It ws taken at L.A. Union Stockyards in 1937.

Enjoy,

Peter

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Formerly of Los Angeles, CA
Now Living in Eugene, Oregon
http://home.earthlink.net/~pmcclosky
pmcclosky@...


Re: Triple Hoppers

armprem
 

Gentlemen,Are there any good models of a quad hopper other than Bowser's or Westerfield's( both Pennsy }? Armand Premo

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To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: Triple Hoppers


Justin Kahn wrote:
"Keystone?" Is it possible you meant "Crown" (which Rich did import
for his H21's)?
Did you look at the photo, Jace? It very clearly says
"Keystone" right on it. I associate the "Crown" trucks with the PRR,
though I'd be happy to be enlightened about broader use.

I take it Larry is using "USRA" in the sense of "USRA flatcar," which
is to say designs considered by the committee but never actually built
under the auspices of the USRA?
The committee didn't "consider" designs, it created/assembled
them, but you are right that none were ever ordered by USRA. That of
course didn't keep anyone else from liking or ordering from the
drawings. Carbuilder representatives were the core of the committee and
naturally they could market any of the designs they liked, to be built
by their own plant.

The "cast" trucks look (off the top of my head) very much like
Vulcans, so the San Juan D&RGW Vulcan set might serve.
Not like many Vulcans I know, other than the separate
journals. As we are all learning, sideframe shape did differ among
manufacturers, and we are far from being able to accurately model many
of the commercial castings which were in use.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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Re: Triple Hoppers

woodyp48
 

the san juan O scale vulcan is i believe a 40 ton truck circa 1915,
and would not be suitable for a 70 ton "USRA" never built hopper (
clones were built with mods from the original design), even tho it
might look similar tp a point, big point. so, this prototype truck is
another that has never been produced in O scale.

woody grosdoff

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