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Re: Files get dull

Michael Aufderheide
 

Tom,

Tell me what your laminate file looks like. It sounds useful. A google search turned up filing cabinets!

Mike

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...> wrote: This is not news and will no doubt provide no revalations to most
STMFC members, but files are among the tools we tend to to ignore as
they age. I do more filing of resin castings than most people and keep
my files scrupulously clean. Even so, I recently replaced my laminate
file, my mainstay tool for filing the backs of castings to remove
flash, and the improvement in material removal rate was amazing. Yeah,
I know, files are cutting tools and eventually become dull and should
be replaced like saw, knife or razor blades. But they're like a car's
shock absorbers, degrading so slowly that you don't really notice how
bad they've gotten until they're replaced.

Tom Madden





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C&EI and IC hoppers and another question

asychis@...
 

Thanks for the help on the hoppers guys. I appreciate it.

On another subject, how do you folks who seem to have so much data readily at
your fingertips organize your "stuff?" Do you use some sort of indexing
process, just remember things (which I don't do as well as I used to),
electronically, written?

Jerry Michels


Files get dull

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

This is not news and will no doubt provide no revalations to most
STMFC members, but files are among the tools we tend to to ignore as
they age. I do more filing of resin castings than most people and keep
my files scrupulously clean. Even so, I recently replaced my laminate
file, my mainstay tool for filing the backs of castings to remove
flash, and the improvement in material removal rate was amazing. Yeah,
I know, files are cutting tools and eventually become dull and should
be replaced like saw, knife or razor blades. But they're like a car's
shock absorbers, degrading so slowly that you don't really notice how
bad they've gotten until they're replaced.

Tom Madden


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

ed_mines
 

http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/cedco_sb_55_cars.jpg
Thanks for the reference Tim.

2 of those SFRD reefers look to be school bus yellow, i.e.
significantly faded from "Daylight" orange.

There's a 50 ft. SFRD reefer in one of John Long's photos of an Erie
car float in New York harbor. These prints come from the Dan Biernacki
collection. I think the photo appears in the PFE book, but I could be
wrong.

Ed


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 3, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Miller, Andrew S. wrote:

You should archive picture this on the photo site. It has numerous
interesting cars in addition to the 50' SFRD refer (lettered "Grand
Canyon Line"). Notice the CN Howe truss box car, the 6k gal tank, the
NYC 40' double door box car, and the UP hoppers in two colors!
A couple of minor corrections, Andy. The tank car was a 7K gal. General Chemical acid car. And the UP hoppers weren't painted two colors; the two on the left had just been repainted in standard UP oxide red with yellow lettering, while the car that's partly visible to the right was an identical Hart ballast hopper painted in the same oxide red but its paint job was at least eight years old (white lettering was replaced by yellow in 1947) and, from the looks of it, probably much older than that. Many years of weathering and accumulated grime (as with many UP ballast hoppers, it probably had spent much of its life in Utah coal service) made it appear to be a different color, but under all that grunge was the same oxide red paint as on the other hoppers. Note also the string of five Santa Fe covered hoppers behind the cabooses which appear at first glance to have been gray, but were actually painted mineral brown under the heavy deposits of cement - which is why many RRs gave up and painted their cement hoppers gray in the first place.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Dan Stinson asked for the location of the Hungerford photo. That's San
Bernardino, Calif., on the Santa Fe. The photo looks northwest across the A
Yard toward the San Gabriel Mountains.

So long,

Andy


Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@...
262-796-8776, ext. 461
FAX 262-796-11142


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

 

Jim Lancaster posted this shot from a Cedco calendar and
lookie here -- a 50 ft SFRD reefer! Clean, too. Jim didn't give
a date for the photo.
Tim -
Do you know where this is?
Dan Stinson
Helena, Montana


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
 

Tim,

You should archive picture this on the photo site. It has numerous
interesting cars in addition to the 50' SFRD refer (lettered "Grand
Canyon Line"). Notice the CN Howe truss box car, the 6k gal tank, the
NYC 40' double door box car, and the UP hoppers in two colors!


regards,

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
timboconnor@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 8:54 PM
To: stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] Santa Fe 50' reefer

Jim Lancaster posted this shot from a Cedco calendar and
lookie here -- a 50 ft SFRD reefer! Clean, too. Jim didn't give
a date for the photo.

http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/cedco_sb_55_cars.jpg

Tim O'Connor



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Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

This is no doubt the time of the 3759's "Farewell to Steam" excursion ­
notice the silver ATS shoe on the engine's trailing truck, specially added
for that trip ­ so the date of John Hungerford's photo is 1955 ­ February, I
think.

So long,

Andy


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Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
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FAX 262-796-11142


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Tim O'Connor
 

Richard Hendrickson wrote

...though all of those SFRD cars were originally the same color,
there are no two alike in color in this photo. The same may be
said about the cabooses
This is the full panorama shot -- you can even see more cabooses,
no two exactly the same color.

http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/cedco_sb_55_full.jpg

Tim O.


Re: PRRT&HS

tcschc <tculotta@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

I didn't announce this until I was sure I would have them at the meeting -
one piece car body kits for the G22A gondola.
Al:

A one piece G22 - that's getting awfully close to ready-to-run. :-)

Regards,
Ted Culotta


Re: Moderate Jail and the Midland Valley

Barry Bennett <Barrybennetttoo@...>
 

Hi Brad

There is a photo of these cars in Lloyd E Stagners 'Midland Valley'
book, on page 21.

It is a 36ft, 30 ton double sheath with wood floor, four truss rods,
arch bar trucks, and two fairly heavy vertical timbers on the end.
Ladders are all grabs. The photo is of car no 20004 with 'Arkansas
River Route' slogan. The car is one of 308 cars owned at the end of
1922. Photo credited to Three Rivers Museum.

Cheers

Barry Bennett
Coventry, England


In STMFC@..., Brad Bourbina <bbbourb@...> wrote:

So I bought these decals off e-bay that are for an old-time Midland
Valley boxcar, but I don't know enough about the car type to say what
the decals are for. It looks like a 36' wood double-sheathed car or
reefer. Anyone have a clue? I sure don't...


Re: Underframes 101

 

Hey Guys, Maybe I missed a post on this, but page 16 is
missing from the download. Does anyone have a page
16 they can share with me.
You're right, Paul. Good catch. I'm sure all the documents are the same,
because they're the same file. It looks like page 16 with Figures 33 and 34
somehow got left out of the file.

Dan Stinson
Helena, Montana


Re: Santa Fe 50' reefer

Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 2, 2006, at 5:54 PM, timboconnor@... wrote:

Jim Lancaster posted this shot from a Cedco calendar and
lookie here -- a 50 ft SFRD reefer! Clean, too. Jim didn't give
a date for the photo.
1955. And, yes, that's a freshly painted 50' SFRD reefer in the background, complete with "Grand Canyon Line" slogan. Note that, though all of those SFRD cars were originally the same color, there are no two alike in color in this photo. The same may be said about the cabooses, all originally the same shade of mineral brown (and a couple had black roofs, but not all of them). The cement hoppers in the background are interesting, as well, since all of them are painted mineral brown under all that gray cement. And note that the two freshly painted UP ballast cars in the foreground, loaded with Utah coal for Kaiser's Fontana steel mill, contrast dramatically in color with the adjacent car, which was the same color of oxide red under all that coal dust and dirt. All in all, a textbook example of steam era freight car weathering and grime. In fact, I'm going to add it to my Power Point clinic on the Vintage Dating of freight cars.

Richard Hendrickson


PRRT&HS

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

I didn't announce this until I was sure I would have them at the meeting - one piece car body kits for the G22A gondola. Pictures now on our web site www.westerfield.biz. - Al Westerfield


Thanks to Jeff Aley/Scope notes

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

A special thanks to Jeff Aley for taking care of things while I was gone.

Just a quick note or two. One of the few...in fact, the only one I can think of...perk that the owner and his helpers has is the privilege of being out of scope...generally to make a point regarding the group's rules or culture or to make announcements to the group.

Anyhow...I think we'll terminate the thread on narrow gauge stuff even in the form of a cargo. The point has been made that NG equipment was transported on standard gauge frt cars.

Second, some members may consider that people "play" with trains when they deal with a model of a real train and/or a model of a fictitious one. Others might consider that they are "playing" when they deal with a real train and not a model. In fact, however, all of that is irrelevant as far as the STMFC is concerned. By definition, the STMFC is associated ONLY with real steam era, standard gauge frt cars and the models of them. This association includes operations of those frt cars and, by definition, only includes operation of real railroads...not those that might have existed...however plausible. The subject of speculation about railroads and cars that did not exist is not to be considered as unworthy, it is simply not within scope of the STMFC.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Santa Fe 50' reefer

Tim O'Connor
 

Jim Lancaster posted this shot from a Cedco calendar and
lookie here -- a 50 ft SFRD reefer! Clean, too. Jim didn't give
a date for the photo.

http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/cedco_sb_55_cars.jpg

Tim O'Connor


Re: "Old Reliable" to "Dixie Line", was RE: Paint scheme index

Lee B Singletary <LBSingletary@...>
 

The "Old Reliable" slogan was applied to frieght cars beginning late 1951
until late 1957 when it was switched to "Dixie Line".

Lee Singletary
Alabaster, Alabama
http://lee.rrpicturearchives.net/


On Mon, 1 May 2006 21:59:06 -0700 "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton"
<smokeandsteam@...> writes:


Me, I would like to know when the L&N switched from "Old Reliable"
to
"Dixie Line", helps keep the modeling in my respective era of 1953.
Since I
am not expert on every RR, a simple list would be worthy candidate
to
purchase for the backshop. <<

Fred

The Dixie Line was the old NC&StL slogan which the L&N appropriated
when
they took over the NC in 1958 so your 1953 cars should still carry
"The Old
Reliable".

I don't exactly know when they started using "The Old Reliable" on
freight
cars, but I think it was in the late forties; certainly war time
and
thirties photos don't show the slogan - at least not the few that I
have.

Aidrian


Re: Underframes 101

Paul Lyons
 

Hey Guys, Maybe I missed a post on this, but page 16 is missing from the download. Does anyone have a page 16 they can share with me.

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Harding <d.harding@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:46:19 -0500
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Underframes 101


Tony Thompson asked me to report how many downloaded the large file for Gene
Green's Freight Car Underbody document. To date the file has been downloaded
160 times, most of that activity occurred during the first few days the file
was available.

If you did not yet download, you can do so by going to:
http://rapidshare.de/files/16945521/Freight_car_Underbody.pdf.html

Scroll past all the ads and follow the links. Click on the "free" to get the
file.

Doug Harding
Iowa Central Railroad
http://d.harding.home.mchsi.com





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Moderate Jail and the Midland Valley

Brad Bourbina <bbbourb@...>
 

So, uh, Dan, does that mean you don't feel the moderator or the original poster can "Walk the Line"?
So I bought these decals off e-bay that are for an old-time Midland Valley boxcar, but I don't know enough about the car type to say what the decals are for. It looks like a 36' wood double-sheathed car or reefer. Anyone have a clue? I sure don't...

Brad Bourbina
---- DR Stinson <dano@...> wrote:

It amazes me even more that a moderator would continue this foolishness on
the list instead of taking it directly to the person in question. Were I the
list head janitor, I'd give you a time-out as well.

By the way, "Folsom Prison Blues" IS about trains. Remember the line, "I
hear the traiin a comin'. It's comin' around the bend. ... ?

Dan Stinson
Helena, Montana

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