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Re: Atlas Trainman hopper

Andy Carlson
 

Yes, my understanding was that their earliest artwork ATLAS sent to China had a 2 page drawing crossing over the binding, and in China, the pasted together print yielded the "Extra Wide" rib, which was dutifully reproduced for us North Americans. They sold that way for some time, and I don't know if it was ever corrected, since as a Westerner, I get to ignore coal Hoppers.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
http://www.atlastrainman.com/HOFreight/tmho2bay.htm

It's a bit disconcerting to see that their paint and lettering layout
drawings still have that goofy center side stake of the original run
of this model.


Re: Atlas Trainman hopper

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"Is Atlas demoting some of their old models to "Trainman" status or is
this a new model?"

http://www.atlastrainman.com/HOFreight/tmho2bay.htm

It's a bit disconcerting to see that their paint and lettering layout
drawings still have that goofy center side stake of the original run
of this model.


Ben Hom


Re: Atlas Trainman hopper

Greg Bartek
 

Tim,

AFAIK, the 2 bay offset hopper and the PS-2 are now part of the
Trainman line. Demoting?....nah. Same model, different box.

Greg Bartek

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Is Atlas demoting some of their old models to "Trainman"
status or is this a new model?

http://www.atlastrainman.com/HOFreight/tmho2bay.htm

Tim O'Connor


Given recent grumbling about inadequate instructions....

leakinmywaders
 

Given recent grumbling about inadequate instructions in many resin
freigh car kits--which I agree with--I thought it might be appropriate
to post a really big attaboy to Mr. Culotta for his extremely lucid,
carefully-written, and beautifully illustrated instruction sheet in
the new Speedwitch SP/T&NO B-50-25 boxcar kit. I just received mine
today and I am very impressed. I'd say Ted is doing a great service to
all of us by taking the time to prepare directions that are friendly
to resin kit novices. And yet they are chock full of good ideas for
everybody else too. Thanks!

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT


Re: F&C X28A

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Rob Daniels asked:
"Can anyone comment as to the accuracy of the new Funaro and
Camerlengo X28A?"

I've uploaded a side-by-side comparison titled "Funaro & Camerlengo
PRR Class X28A Boxcar.pdf" in the STMFC Files section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files

The prototype photo is a detail from the April 2002 "Shot of the
Month" from the Steam Era Freight Cars website:
http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%
20mo/shotofmoapr02.html

(If the side by side offends anyone else, I'll pull it from the files
section.)

The most noticable flaw is highlighed on the slide - aside from its
greater height, the spotting feature distinguishing the X28A from the
X29 is a narrow panel, second to the left of the door. This is a
vestige of the cars' previous life as atuomobile boxcars. The Funaro
model lacks this detail. I haven't built this kit yet; looking in the
box, the other thing I'd do is replace the kit ladders with Red
Caboose X29 ladders.

That being said, the Funaro model is the best readily available HO
scale option available today. This model saves you the trouble of
kitbashing the X28A by splicing together two Red Caboose X29 kits for
the added height (which will also share the same side sheathing
discrepancy as the Funaro model). Sunshine 26.14 and 26.15 are highly
accurate kits of the X28A, but they are no longer in production.
Overland did a run of brass models some time back.

More prototype information can be found in my article in the June 2005
TKM (for which I did obtain permission to reproduce the photos in the
article):
http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler.htm

Download it now as it'll be dropped from the website as soon as the
June 2006 issue hits the streets!


Ben Hom


Re: Atlas Trainman hopper

SUVCWORR@...
 

According to the discussion in Atlas' forum this is the same offset 2 bay
hopper Atlas has offered in the past in new paint schemes and/or new road
numbers.

Rich Orr


Re: Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Ed Hawkins
 

On Saturday, June 3, 2006, at 09:52 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:

One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement and
plastic."

It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.

Can anyone confirm this?
Bob,
In my articles in the September and November 2005 Railmodel Journal there are several photos of cars having a line on the exterior of the car and stencils stating that cement shall not be loaded higher than 3'-5" from the top of the hatch.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Atlas Trainman hopper

Tim O'Connor
 

Is Atlas demoting some of their old models to "Trainman"
status or is this a new model?

http://www.atlastrainman.com/HOFreight/tmho2bay.htm

Tim O'Connor


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

A word of warning; this causes my Safari browser to crash. I'm going to try
going directly to the file instead.
--

Brian Ehni

From: <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: 3 Jun 2006 18:38:28 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] New file uploaded to STMFC


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
group.

File : /Funaro & Camerlengo PRR Class X28A Boxcar.pdf
Uploaded by : benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Description : Prototype - Model Comparison of F&C HO scale PRR X28A boxcar
kit

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Funaro%20%26%20Camerlengo%20PRR%20Cl
ass%20X28A%20Boxcar.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>










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Re: Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

Brian-

I'm aware of painted lines being used on open hoppers, but wouldn't
that be a problem with covered hoppers? It certainly would be an
interesting detail to model. Does anyone have iamges?

Bob Chaparro

--- In STMFC@..., Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...> wrote:

It would never be fully loaded with cement. Back in the day,
hopper cars
used to have painted lines indicating the level of various
commodities.

Cement, being more dense, would not literally fill the cubic space
of the
car. Other commodities certainly could (and did).
--

Brian Ehni


From: Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:52:52 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Just a few months ago Athearn released an HO-scale PS2 three-bay
covered hopper (Stock # 2893). The prototype for the model was
the
covered hopper Pullman-Standard began producing beginning in the
1950s.

One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these
hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement
and
plastic."

It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been
incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro
Mission Viejo, Ca


Re: New file uploaded to STMFC

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

That worked.
--

Brian Ehni

From: <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: 3 Jun 2006 18:38:28 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] New file uploaded to STMFC


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
group.

File : /Funaro & Camerlengo PRR Class X28A Boxcar.pdf
Uploaded by : benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Description : Prototype - Model Comparison of F&C HO scale PRR X28A boxcar
kit

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Funaro%20%26%20Camerlengo%20PRR%20Cl
ass%20X28A%20Boxcar.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>


Andrews-Dalman truck

Dennis Storzek <dstorzek@...>
 

I got tired of waiting for the photo police to approve the photo I uploaded to the Photos section, so I uploaded the image to the Files section of this list at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Andrews-Dalman_truck.jpg

Apparently copyright violations are OK in the Files but not in Photos.


Dennis Storzek
Big Rock, IL


New file uploaded to STMFC

STMFC@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC
group.

File : /Funaro & Camerlengo PRR Class X28A Boxcar.pdf
Uploaded by : benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
Description : Prototype - Model Comparison of F&C HO scale PRR X28A boxcar kit

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Funaro%20%26%20Camerlengo%20PRR%20Class%20X28A%20Boxcar.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>


Re: Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

charles slater
 

We used to handle them when I was a switchman in LA, and they would only load the two end compartments and leave the center one empty.
We also had a custimer who recieved 3-bay hoppers of Ajax clenser and they would have the center compartment empty also, but because their unloading spot was up against a bumping post, they could only unload one end of the car and then we would need to take the car and turn it on the wye and re spot it so they could unload the other end of the car. Their unloading spot was made for two bay cars.
That could make for more operation on a model railroad.
Charlie Slater
Bakersfield, Ca.

From: Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
Reply-To: STMFC@...
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:02:49 -0500

It would never be fully loaded with cement. Back in the day, hopper cars
used to have painted lines indicating the level of various commodities.

Cement, being more dense, would not literally fill the cubic space of the
car. Other commodities certainly could (and did).
--

Brian Ehni


From: Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:52:52 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Just a few months ago Athearn released an HO-scale PS2 three-bay
covered hopper (Stock # 2893). The prototype for the model was the
covered hopper Pullman-Standard began producing beginning in the 1950s.

One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement and
plastic."

It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro
Mission Viejo, Ca


Re: Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:
One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement and
plastic."
It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.
Can anyone confirm this?
You are right. It is confirmed in Kaminski's book on AC&F history, in which he describes the relation of cargo density to covered hopper volume.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

It would never be fully loaded with cement. Back in the day, hopper cars
used to have painted lines indicating the level of various commodities.

Cement, being more dense, would not literally fill the cubic space of the
car. Other commodities certainly could (and did).
--

Brian Ehni

From: Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 16:52:52 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Just a few months ago Athearn released an HO-scale PS2 three-bay
covered hopper (Stock # 2893). The prototype for the model was the
covered hopper Pullman-Standard began producing beginning in the 1950s.

One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement and
plastic."

It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro
Mission Viejo, Ca


Athearn's New HO Three-Bay Covered Hoppers

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

Just a few months ago Athearn released an HO-scale PS2 three-bay
covered hopper (Stock # 2893). The prototype for the model was the
covered hopper Pullman-Standard began producing beginning in the 1950s.

One of the statements on the Athearn website says that these hoppers
were "Designed to carry bulk commodities, such as grain, cement and
plastic."

It seems to me that this car, fully loaded, would have been incapable
of handling the weight of such a dense commodity as cement.

Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro
Mission Viejo, Ca


F&C X28A

Robert Daniels
 

Hello group,

Can anyone comment as to the accuracy of the new Funaro and Camerlengo X28A?

Thanks in advance.

Rob Daniels
New York, NY

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MP N scale & HO Special Price items

Andy Carlson
 

I have the following MP N & HO Models for sell. All are brand new, in original packaging, and have no price or dealer stickers (unless otherwise noted).

Intermountain Powered HO MP F7A #622 List Price $99.95
$50.00
Intermountain Powered HO MP F7B #620B
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LifeLike P2K HO HiSide Covered Hopper Assembled List $28.00
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LifeLike N SCALE FA-1/FB-1 both powered split frame #321, 321B
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ERIE N scale & HO Special Price items

Andy Carlson
 

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Intermountain Powered HO ERIE F7A have 4#'s List Price $99.95
$50.00 ea.
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Intermountain ERIE 50' DD PS-1 Kit 67584 blt '59
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LifeLike EL11489 52' Gon Kit
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ERIE *N SCALE* KATO Covered Hoppers AC&F 2 pack List $28.00
$16.00 per pair of 2 cars

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