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UP box cars summary

ed_mines
 

Could someone describe UP's box car fleet circa 1946?

I know they had some double sheathed box cars like the ones
Westerfield offers and "standard" 1937 10' IH box cars like Red
Caboose offers.

The ORERs show they have a lot of cars with in IH (inner height) of
about 9 ft. Were these double sheathed or steel cars? What kinds of
ends and roofs did they have?

There's a photo a a UP double sheathed in the 1931 CBC reprint which
shows a herald like the ones on PFE reefers. How long did that last?

What % of box cars were marked for subsidiaries like OSL?

Ed


Re: Article On Santa Fe's Rebuilt Reefers

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Ted Culotta wrote:

Also, it's hard to say it in the
article, but I LOVE these new Sunshine kits. Sometimes a model just
strikes one's fancy and these hit me from the moment I saw the
castings. Charlie Slater is really to be commended for his efforts.
Well, gee, Ted - thanks a lot! That pretty well assures they'll all be
gone by the time I arrive at the Amarillo convention Friday morning!

Tom Madden


early C. C. & O. boxcar kit/ Concor?

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, david sutherland <trainbrain2@...> wrote:
A number of years ago, back in the 70's I believe, there was a company
that came out with a 2 car, wood sheathed boxcar craftsman kit which
included a C. C. & O. 36 foot wood sheathed boxcar and I think the
other was a 34 foot Ann Arbor wood sheathed boxcar.

My recollection is that Concor came out with a few kits including one
for double sheathed box cars with silk screened sides.

I had an Airslide covered hopper kit from them. I'm not surprised that
there weren't too many additional kits.

Ed


Re: Article On Santa Fe's Rebuilt Reefers

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

There is an error in the text of the captions on page 95. It should be "Rr-43" not "Rr-45" as stated. Also, it's hard to say it in the article, but I LOVE these new Sunshine kits. Sometimes a model just strikes one's fancy and these hit me from the moment I saw the castings. Charlie Slater is really to be commended for his efforts.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Great Movie

JEFFREY LEAMAN
 

I know this is kind of late, but I wanted to get the word out about a great old movie that will be shown tomorrow morning from 7:45 a to 9 am on Turner Classic Movies (Channel 73 on Comcast) It's called "Other Men's Women" and it was made in 1931. The plot has to do with an engineer and his fireman and the engineer's wife. It was filmed on live steam freight trains and includes an actual staged sideswipe collision between two trains. It also seems that this might be one of James Gagney's first movie roles as he is definitely in the picture but give little in any credit.

This is must watch on the order of some earlier railroad movies; lame plots but real action among real working trains.

Hope you see this before it's two late.

Jeff Leaman


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Re: early C. C. & O. boxcar

CJ Riley
 

David,

If you find the manufacturuer, check the NMRA library as they have a pretty
good collection of kit instructions. It worked for me.

CJ Riley

--- david sutherland <trainbrain2@juno.com> wrote:

Hi to all,

I am new to the list a short time ago, but have been silent. Just
setting back and getting the feel for the list. I both model and
research the history of the Clinchfield, or if you prefer, the Carolina,
Clinchfield & Ohio. I belong to the Carolina-Clinchfield chapter of the
N. R. H. S., and have written an article the history of Clinchfield
passenger cars for its quarterly newsletter(9-05).

A number of years ago, back in the 70's I believe, there was a company
that came out with a 2 car, wood sheathed boxcar craftsman kit which
included a C. C. & O. 36 foot wood sheathed boxcar and I think the other
was a 34 foot Ann Arbor wood sheathed boxcar. I eventually built up the
Clinchfield one, and then sold the other one at a swap. I have several
questions on this kit and the Clinchfield cars themselves. They were
numbered 3300-4024 and had steel underframes. Now, first off, does
anyone remember who built this 2 car kit, and would anyone who might have
also bought this kit still have the instruction sheet for it, that they
might be kind enough to scan the Clinchfield side of it and send it to me
offlist. Plus would any of you happen to have any info as to building
dates and builder, that would also be much appreciated.

I have uploaded two pictures of my model, which had dry transfer
lettering, numbering it # 3340, into the photo area of the list under
Clinchfield cars. I have always thought that I did a terrible job on the
weathering of the car, but have been told by others that it was well
done. As you can see in the two pictures, that over the years in
storage, it has had a lot of damage done to it. Pieces of the roof and
underside are missing, broken off and ending up who knows where. And for
a time, one of the doors came off and was misplaced. But I eventually
found it, but have left it off, so I can get some measurements so I can
make up a few more of them. I model the transition time period from
steam to diesel, 1948 thru 1952, and during that time period, according
to the ORER's, they still have at least 17 of them listed as in service.
Also, if anyone by chance have any pictures of one of these boxcars I
would like to see them also.

I thank you all in advance for any help with my quest for the info on
this boxcar.

Best Regards,

Dave Sutherland
trainbrain--Troy, MI.
Elkhorn, Dante & Southern
SERVING VIRGINIA'S BILLION DOLLAR COAL FIELDS
member, Carolina Clinchfield chapter, NRHS--#215

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railroad film

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Tomorrow morning on Turner Classic Movies at 8:45 EDT is what I consider the best railroad film ever made - Other Men's Women. Lots of steam and freight car shots plus excellent model work. Don't let the title fool you. And watch for James Cagney in a role that earned him The Public Enemy. - Al


Re: BLI HO B&O Hopper Cars FOR SALE

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Thanks Ben!

benjaminfrank_hom wrote:

Tom Olsen asked:
"...when did the B&O buy H2a clones or N&W H2a cast-offs?"

B&O leased approximately 1,880 N&W Class H-3 hopper cars between 1944 and 1948. The BLI Class H-2A cars are similar but will need some detail modifications, most notably the ends. See Bob Chapman's article in the December 2005 issue of Mainline Modeler for more information on the differences between the H-2A and H-3.


Ben Hom






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early C. C. & O. boxcar

david sutherland <trainbrain2@...>
 

Hi to all,

I am new to the list a short time ago, but have been silent. Just
setting back and getting the feel for the list. I both model and
research the history of the Clinchfield, or if you prefer, the Carolina,
Clinchfield & Ohio. I belong to the Carolina-Clinchfield chapter of the
N. R. H. S., and have written an article the history of Clinchfield
passenger cars for its quarterly newsletter(9-05).

A number of years ago, back in the 70's I believe, there was a company
that came out with a 2 car, wood sheathed boxcar craftsman kit which
included a C. C. & O. 36 foot wood sheathed boxcar and I think the other
was a 34 foot Ann Arbor wood sheathed boxcar. I eventually built up the
Clinchfield one, and then sold the other one at a swap. I have several
questions on this kit and the Clinchfield cars themselves. They were
numbered 3300-4024 and had steel underframes. Now, first off, does
anyone remember who built this 2 car kit, and would anyone who might have
also bought this kit still have the instruction sheet for it, that they
might be kind enough to scan the Clinchfield side of it and send it to me
offlist. Plus would any of you happen to have any info as to building
dates and builder, that would also be much appreciated.

I have uploaded two pictures of my model, which had dry transfer
lettering, numbering it # 3340, into the photo area of the list under
Clinchfield cars. I have always thought that I did a terrible job on the
weathering of the car, but have been told by others that it was well
done. As you can see in the two pictures, that over the years in
storage, it has had a lot of damage done to it. Pieces of the roof and
underside are missing, broken off and ending up who knows where. And for
a time, one of the doors came off and was misplaced. But I eventually
found it, but have left it off, so I can get some measurements so I can
make up a few more of them. I model the transition time period from
steam to diesel, 1948 thru 1952, and during that time period, according
to the ORER's, they still have at least 17 of them listed as in service.
Also, if anyone by chance have any pictures of one of these boxcars I
would like to see them also.

I thank you all in advance for any help with my quest for the info on
this boxcar.

Best Regards,

Dave Sutherland
trainbrain--Troy, MI.
Elkhorn, Dante & Southern
SERVING VIRGINIA'S BILLION DOLLAR COAL FIELDS
member, Carolina Clinchfield chapter, NRHS--#215


Re: BLI HO B&O Hopper Cars FOR SALE

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Tom Olsen asked:
"...when did the B&O buy H2a clones or N&W H2a cast-offs?"

B&O leased approximately 1,880 N&W Class H-3 hopper cars between 1944
and 1948. The BLI Class H-2A cars are similar but will need some
detail modifications, most notably the ends. See Bob Chapman's
article in the December 2005 issue of Mainline Modeler for more
information on the differences between the H-2A and H-3.


Ben Hom


Re: BLI HO B&O Hopper Cars FOR SALE

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Dave & List,

These B&O H2a's are listed in the "N" Scale side of the Precision Craft
catalog and in the Broadway HO Catalog. So, maybe I should have asked:
when did the B&O buy H2a clones or N&W H2a cast-off's?

Tom Olsen

Thomas M. Olsen wrote:

Dave,

Did you mean to say: Broadway Limited Imports H2A N&W 3 Bay Hopper Cars,
not B&O?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch,
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmoilsen@udel.edu

Dave Powell wrote:



Have 2, 6 packs of Broadway Limited Imports H2-A,B&O, 3 bay Hopper Cars
FOR SALE. Set A & D. All different numbers. New in the box. $150.00
for all 12 cars. These usually retail for $149.99 a set(6 cars) and can
be found for around $100.00 a set so this is an exceptionally good buy.
If interested please contact me off list at daveydiesel@netamumail.com
Thanks, Davey







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Re: BLI HO B&O Hopper Cars FOR SALE

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Dave,

Did you mean to say: Broadway Limited Imports H2A N&W 3 Bay Hopper Cars,
not B&O?

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch,
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmoilsen@udel.edu

Dave Powell wrote:

Have 2, 6 packs of Broadway Limited Imports H2-A,B&O, 3 bay Hopper Cars
FOR SALE. Set A & D. All different numbers. New in the box. $150.00
for all 12 cars. These usually retail for $149.99 a set(6 cars) and can
be found for around $100.00 a set so this is an exceptionally good buy.
If interested please contact me off list at daveydiesel@netamumail.com
Thanks, Davey







Yahoo! Groups Links








BLI HO B&O Hopper Cars FOR SALE

Dave Powell <daveydiesel@...>
 

Have 2, 6 packs of Broadway Limited Imports H2-A,B&O, 3 bay Hopper Cars
FOR SALE. Set A & D. All different numbers. New in the box. $150.00
for all 12 cars. These usually retail for $149.99 a set(6 cars) and can
be found for around $100.00 a set so this is an exceptionally good buy.
If interested please contact me off list at daveydiesel@netamumail.com
Thanks, Davey


Early Heads Up for the Deland Train Show Next Saturday

brasshat99
 

This an early heads up for the Deland Train Show Next Saturday.

Date: Sat, 7/22/2006

Categories: Model Railroad, Railroad Memorabilia, Toy Train /
Collectible Show, Train Show and Sale

Location: Volusia County Fairgrounds (Bill Hester Exibit Hall)
3150 East New York Ave
Deland, FL 32724

Times: 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.

Admission Fees: $6 Adults; Children under 12 free.

Description: Model trains(N to G Gauge)Railroad Memorabilia

FREE PARKING!

Additional Information: Wheelchair Accessible - Yes

Directions: State Route 44 (Exit 118 off Intersate 4)

Contact Info
Phil Cross
407-656-5056


Re: REP Morris Rifkin & Son refrigerator cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:21 AM, Thomas Baker wrote:

About two months ago two people were kind enough to send me JPEGS of a URTX Morris Rifkin & Son refrigerator car. The two photos bring up some questions.

One car, number 5100, is clearly a 36 or 37-foot car. The JPEG of the other car, also in the 5100-series [I cannot locate the photo at the moment.] was photographed in the consist of a train. It appears to be a 40-foot car.
This is probably a Chet McCoid photo of URTX 5162 at Plymouth, IN in October of 1952. That car in 5120-5175 series was a 36' car built in the 1930s by General American with a Duryea cushion underframe; overall length is shown in the ORERs as 39'6", but that's because the draft gear extended well beyond the end sills.

Is it possible that some URTX cars leased to Morris Rifkin & Son were 40-foot cars and not the expected 36 or 37-foot cars that meat reefers often were?
In the absence of photographic evidence, I can't say for sure, but it's certainly the case that URT leased some 40' reefers to other meat packing houses, as I have photos of such cars.

Years ago a friend of mine photographed and modeled a Morris Rifkin car, number 5112. His model was a 40-foot car. This was probably not a kit or possibly an adapted kit. In any case, he was usually quite accurate in his work.
URTX 5100-5119 are shown in the 1/53 ORER as 40' cars.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Article On Santa Fe's Rebuilt Reefers

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

The article mentions that the new Sunshine reefer kits will be launched at
the ATSF convention, which means Sunshine will have a presence there. If
anyone is going to the convention and is willing to do me a small favor,
please contact me off line at jimandlisa97225@Verizon.net



Thanks



Jim Hayes

Portland Oregon



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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Chaparro
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:34 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Article On Santa Fe's Rebuilt Reefers



The current issue of Railroad Model Craftsman (August 2006) has an
excellent eight-page article by Ted Culotta on Santa Fe's rebuilt USRA-
design reefers, starting on Page 92. There are many prototype and
model images accompanying this article as well as a wealth of car
detail information. Also mentioned are some new Santa Fe reefer kits
based on later USRA design rebuilds about to be released by Sunshine
Models.

Bob Chaparro
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
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Article On Santa Fe’s Rebuilt Reefers

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

The current issue of Railroad Model Craftsman (August 2006) has an
excellent eight-page article by Ted Culotta on Santa Fe's rebuilt USRA-
design reefers, starting on Page 92. There are many prototype and
model images accompanying this article as well as a wealth of car
detail information. Also mentioned are some new Santa Fe reefer kits
based on later USRA design rebuilds about to be released by Sunshine
Models.

Bob Chaparro
Citrus Industry Modeling Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/


Commonwealth Flats

Ted Larson
 

My Dec. '92 RMJ has a "Partial Roster" of 53'6" Commonwealth flats, by
Jim Eager. How "partial" is this? Is there an updated version? Thanks

Ted Larson

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Re: Bead/grit blasting

Jerry Jackson <centralfloridashops@...>
 

For those interested, I posted pictures of the simple container I use
for media blasting. The nice thing about the Rubbermaid container I
found at Wally*World is that it has an inside lip and locks relatively
tight so the media is contained.

I had no luck finding the booth from Micro-Mark, but I would guess
that the cost of this simple alternative would be about half the cost
of just shipping one from them.

Regards,
Jerry Jackson

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