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Sunshine Mini-kits at Amarillo

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

In addition to his stock of regular kits, Martin had quite a few mini-
kits available. Many of his Santa Fe Rr-19 kits, of course, but I also
found a couple of the MoP 1942 box car mini-kits that were handed out
at Naperville last year ($10, you need an InterMountain 10'6" IH
boxcar kit plus an IMWX/RC roof), a Wabash 82000-series auto parts
steel rebuilt boxcar ($12 plus Tichy USRA SS steel side rebuilt boxcar
kit), Santa Fe Fe-21 boxcar($12 plus Proto 2000 50' single door
boxcar, no end door), and Santa Fe Fe-22/23 boxcar ($10 plus Proto
2000 50' double door boxcar with end door).

Tom Madden, safely home


Re: Decaling issues

Paul Lyons
 

Can someone expand on this technique. I understand decaling over dry Future Floor Wax, but I have never heard of floating the decal down into it.

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: hummerdaves@yahoo.com
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Decaling issues


Have you tried Future Floor wax ?
The decal will float right down in it and look like pad print lettering.
When dry you can add what ever decal solvent you like.
Regards Hummer


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Re: WS Kits

James Fellows
 

Justin,

You are correct, West Shore not West Side. I am mixing my NYC lines with my musicals. It is a flat injection molded kit, not resin.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Kahn" <harumd@hotmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] WS Kits


Perhaps West SHORE? I think these were produced for CHS by F&C.

Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


I have two limited run West side Models made for Cental Hobby supply. I
prchased them in the mid to late 1980's. They are steel sided reffers with
dreadnot ends and bowtie roofs. Only the sides are paited, the rest of the
kit is unpainted. Are thes cars very accurate?
Jim Fellows
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SAL Turtle-Back (Round Roof) Box Car Project UPDATE!!!

John Degnan <RailScaler@...>
 

MIRACLES NEVER CEASE!!!

Forthcoming in
S Scale
Seaboard Air Line 19000-19499 Series, Class B-7
40', Single Door, Turtle-Back (Round-Roof) Box Car

THIS PROJECT IS A GO!!!


Yes, folks... it appears that my persistence has finally paid off!!! New negotiations with
Mr. Jim King of Smoky Mountain Model Works has paid off, and he has agreed to do the kit for me!

( http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com )

I have authorized Jim to offer this kit in his forthcoming line of S scale kits, and all advance reserve orders
for the kit need to go directly to him. I still have the names of those who have contacted me and the
number of kits you spoke for, but everyone will need to contact Jim and verify your continued interest
in this kit, and do so as soon as possible.

jimking3@earthlink.net

Thanks to all who helped in any and every way... especially those of
you with nothing more invested than an interest in buying a kit!


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Announcing : Seaboard Air Line's B-7 Box Cars In S Scale!
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FINALLY!!!


WS Kits

Justin Kahn
 

Perhaps West SHORE? I think these were produced for CHS by F&C.

Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


I have two limited run West side Models made for Cental Hobby supply. I prchased them in the mid to late 1980's. They are steel sided reffers with dreadnot ends and bowtie roofs. Only the sides are paited, the rest of the kit is unpainted. Are thes cars very accurate?
Jim Fellows
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Attn: Jim Brewer Re: DT&I HS or other Org?

Rob Adams
 

I apologize to the Steam Freight Cars group for the bandwidth. I attempted to reply to Jim directly, but for some reason, his ISP is blocking messages from my own. (probably one or more spammers using the domain)

Hello Jim;

I would contact Jim Hediger (of Kalmbach Publishing/Model Railroader). He is a long-time DT&I scholar and would undoubtedly be able to help.

Here's the contact info I have:

Jim Hediger, senior editor
MODEL RAILROADER Magazine
P. O. Box 1612, Waukesha, WI 53187-1612
262-796-8776, ext. 452
jhediger@mrmag.com

Another individual who might be able to help is Brian McQuitty, who is an active HO DT&I modeler. We corresponded quite a bit many years ago when I edited publications for the Ann Arbor RR group. I don't seem to have his e-mail address on my new computer, but I believe he's presenting for John Golden's modeling seminar next month and John could undoubtedy get contact info for you.

Good luck.

Best regards, Rob Adams




James F. Brewer wrote:

All,

As you may recall, Pocahontas Models LLC produced HO scale resin kits of the N&W B-4a boxcar, as well as the B-4 boxcar. The B-4a group was leased to DT&I in the early 1950s. Until now, I had not been able to locate a photo of one of the leased cars to know how it was painted and stenciled.

Through the efforts of Jim Kinkaid, I now have a nice broadside photo of the car, which was repainted into DT&I livery. I'd like to get more information on DT&I stenciling practices, e.g. the diameter of the monogram, etc., but have not been able to locate any historical society; the one web page I have found about modeling DT&I has not been updated since 2004. Any suggestions?

I'd like to develop a set of decals and offer this version.

Many thanks

Jim Brewer
www.pocahontasmodels.com


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the Wabash Bluffs, IL to Keokuk branch, and the CB&Q's Keokuk & Western branch, circa 1938
<http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>


DT&I HS or other Org?

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

All,

As you may recall, Pocahontas Models LLC produced HO scale resin kits of the N&W B-4a boxcar, as well as the B-4 boxcar. The B-4a group was leased to DT&I in the early 1950s. Until now, I had not been able to locate a photo of one of the leased cars to know how it was painted and stenciled.

Through the efforts of Jim Kinkaid, I now have a nice broadside photo of the car, which was repainted into DT&I livery. I'd like to get more information on DT&I stenciling practices, e.g. the diameter of the monogram, etc., but have not been able to locate any historical society; the one web page I have found about modeling DT&I has not been updated since 2004. Any suggestions?

I'd like to develop a set of decals and offer this version.

Many thanks

Jim Brewer
www.pocahontasmodels.com


Re: Westerfield Data CD

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

My instructions and history sheets are in a mix of media. If they haven't been revised the originals are still type written. Some computerized ones are "lost" on formats that are no longer readable. Many are pasted up after output from several different programs. In other words, getting them all into a single format on CD would be a time-consuming task which I'm not willing to undertake at present. - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Kahn" <harumd@hotmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield Data CD


I, er, fifth (?) the motion. Another O scaler heard from.

Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.


6c. Re: Westerfield data sheets
Posted by: "Arthur Marr" ab2lm@earthlink.net abmarr2
Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:12 am (PDT)


[Original Message]
From: Charles Morrill <badlands@nts-online.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 7/20/2006 11:02:47 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] re: Westerfield data sheets

Add one more of the "other scale" guys who would buy a CD or other
publication of your data sheet collection ---with or without prototype
photos. I do have a couple data sheets begged from a friend in HO, but
that
source is no longer available to me.
Charlie
Ditto Here. I have a few that I gleaned off an HO'er. I would buy either
CD or Publication as to have all in one location.

Art Marr
Reno, NV
Posted by: "David Powell" daveydiesel@netamumail.com daveydiesel50511
Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:34 am (PDT)

Al,

Me too, me too; I would purchase a CDor hardcopy of your DATA SHEETS.
Davey

Add one more of the "other scale" guys who would buy a CD or other
publication of your data sheet collection ---with or without prototype
photos. I do have a couple data sheets begged from a friend in HO, but that
source is no longer available to me.
Charlie
From: "mhrreast" <HYPERLINK
"mailto:mhrreast%40yahoo.com"mhrreast@yahoo.-com>

I'm one of those "other scale" guys. Thanks very much for the
information that we can buy your sheets for reference in
scratchbuilding. I looked at your website and see 80+ kits. YAH fer
sure, I'd buy the whole collection at a bulk price as a piece of
reference literature (with or without photos) vs buying individual
sheets as I need them for modeling. Linking up with Cullotta or
Hendrickson on the project is a great idea.


6e. Re: Westerfield data sheets
Posted by: "woodyp48" woodyp48@hotmail.com woodyp48

hi al, as a p48er, me too.
woody





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Duckworth Freight Cars

Charlie Duckworth <trduck@...>
 

Put some freight cars models in a photo album yesterday but am not to
pleased with the quality of the shots. Will reshoot them and repost
over the next week. I haven't been building freight cars too much as
we were moved to Omaha two years ago and the old layout in St. Louis
was dismantled and all I saved was the turnouts, track and buildings.
The new layout is based on the Mopac branch from Jefferson City to
Eldon, Missouri circa 1954. The local takes about 2 hours to run.
Lessons learned from the move - the new layout is on 2 inch styrofoam
and designed to be semi-portable. Meaning I can take out 2' x 8'
sections at a time. I'm a scenery junkie so I hate to loose all that
work.

One of the stations on the layout is Olean here the original 1881
depots still stands. The locals (all 157 of them) repainted it in
Colonial Yellow and brown trim, new glazing and new roof.

Charlie


Re: Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Charlie Duckworth <trduck@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

Charlie - I have the general arrangements for RI stock cars rebuilt
from B4 box cars and hope to do them within the next year. - Al

Al:
Great news for the 'real' RI modelers and us Mopac guys that model the
RI on the side.
8^)


Re: Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Most of the Rock Island stock cars that were rebuilt from "Fowler Clone" boxcars were single deck cars. I imagine that Al will do the most common cars, but both would be nice.....

Steve Hile

----- Original Message -----
From: Jared Harper

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:
>
> Charlie - I have the general arrangements for RI stock cars rebuilt
from B4 box cars and hope to do them within the next year. - Al

So, are these the cars Richard H. is talking about? I can use a couple
of single deck R.I. cars, but not double deckers.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

Charlie - I have the general arrangements for RI stock cars rebuilt
from B4 box cars and hope to do them within the next year. - Al


So, are these the cars Richard H. is talking about? I can use a couple
of single deck R.I. cars, but not double deckers.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Charlie - I have the general arrangements for RI stock cars rebuilt from B4 box cars and hope to do them within the next year. - Al

----- Original Message -----
From: Charlie Duckworth
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?


I'm wanting to build a couple of RI stock cars for the layout. Is
there anything out that's close to the prototype. Been looking at Al
Westerfield's kits but I really don't have enough information to know
if any of them are close to the prototype. If there's nothing close
did the RI use the Mather stockcars online?

Thanks - Charlie


Re: Help w/FGE/WFE/BRE truss rod article

Rupert and Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

Thanks

Rupert

----- Original Message -----
From: "lnbill" <bwelch@uucf.org>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:45 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Help w/FGE/WFE/BRE truss rod article


I don't know for sure but I think they did not.
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert and Maureen" <gamlenz@...> wrote:

Bill
Did the management of the FGX/WFX/BRX allocate class numbers to the
BREX
cars?
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


other uses for stock cars

cj riley <cjriley42@...>
 

I have sen photos of C&O stock cars being loaded with coke in the 1890s. You
would thinks that the not-always-completely-quenched coke could cause
problems, and sometimes did set wooden cars on fire.

Despite this problem, C&O converted 36' wooden double sheathed box cars from
1911 (Standard Steel Car) into coke cars by removing the roofs in 1937. These
were retired by 1940, but another batch of similar conversions was done
beginning in '39.

Since coke is light, the larger volume of house cars was useful, despite the
threat of fire.

CJ Riley

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C&S 14690

Richard Townsend
 

The Colorado & Southern had a one-car class of standard gauge box cars, for car number 14690. I'm trying to track down its source. This car was purchased second hand in July 1921. I am assuming that it was written off in a wreck of some kind and repaired. The top-hung sliding doors opened to the left. The roof was a "Queenan Murphy." It had a fishbelly frame. The key dimensions are as follows:
IL 34' 9 1/4"
IW 8' 2"
IH 7' 3"
Cu. Cap. 2059 cu ft
Exterior L 36' 7 1/4" over running board
Truck centers 25'
Length over end sills 36' 4 3/4"
Door opening 7' 2" high, 5' 7" wide
Height to running board 12' 8"
Height to eaves 11' 10 1/8"
Width at eaves 9' 7 1/2"
Width over side sills 8' 9 3/4"

Any suggestions as to the origin of this car?
--
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


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Re: Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jul 22, 2006, at 7:10 AM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:

I'm wanting to build a couple of RI stock cars for the layout. Is
there anything out that's close to the prototype. Been looking at Al
Westerfield's kits but I really don't have enough information to know
if any of them are close to the prototype. If there's nothing close
did the RI use the Mather stockcars online?
Charlie, I'm not aware of any HO scale models of RI stock cars (or of cars that are reasonably close), and the RIU didin't lease Mather cars. However, the RI rebuilt some of its 40' Fowler-clone box cars into double-deck stock cars after WW II, and Westerfield has a kit for the box cars. Converting the kit would require new sides and doors; the rest of the cars were unchanged. Better yet, you could make patterns for one side and one set of doors and get Al to produce a complete stock car kit.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Sunshine Models at Santa Fe meet

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, blair kooistra <bkooistra@...> wrote:

Hey Tom,

did you happen to notice if Martin had the new PFE plug-door
reefer R-40-26 (I think it is) available in Amarillo?

Yes, he has them in abundance and should be able to fill mail orders
for them and the Santa Fe cars fairly quickly.


blair kooistra
fort worth, tx
(just a quick hop down the road--270 miles--from Amarillo)
Either your odometer is off by 70 miles or you're measuring as the
crow flies. It's around 330 driving miles from here to our
daughter's place south of Denton.

Tom Madden


Is there an accurate RI stockcar available?

Charlie Duckworth <trduck@...>
 

I'm wanting to build a couple of RI stock cars for the layout. Is
there anything out that's close to the prototype. Been looking at Al
Westerfield's kits but I really don't have enough information to know
if any of them are close to the prototype. If there's nothing close
did the RI use the Mather stockcars online?

Thanks - Charlie


Re: Help w/FGE/WFE/BRE truss rod article

lnbill <bwelch@...>
 

I don't know for sure but I think they did not.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert and Maureen" <gamlenz@...>
wrote:

Bill

Did the management of the FGX/WFX/BRX allocate class numbers to the
BREX
cars?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "lnbill" <bwelch@...>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:15 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Help w/FGE/WFE/BRE truss rod article


I am in the process of writing an article for "Railroad Prototype
Modeling" on the truss rod refrigerator cars owned by Fruit
Growers
Express, Western Fruit Express and Burlington Refrigerator Express
and have brought together an amazing number of photographs from an
equally amazing number of diverse sources.

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