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Re: Paint First--Assembe Later Sunshine Kits

Paul Lyons
 

"Paint first--assemble later" are the instructions for perhaps 50 or 60 Sunshine kits! What are you looking for?

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

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Dear Dr Denny and Dr Mith and other listers:

Can you supply me with the Sunshine model # for this kit?

Thanks in advance,

Rich Nunn

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Re: Paint First--Assembe Later Sunshine Kits

RICH NUNN <flyingtigers_nunn@...>
 

Dear Dr Denny and Dr Mith and other listers:

Can you supply me with the Sunshine model # for this kit?

Thanks in advance,

Rich Nunn


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Re: ART Reefers Arrive

Doug Brown <g.brown1@...>
 

They still had 35 when the auction ended Saturday. Order through their
website specifying the pre-numbered kits @ $15.95.



Doug Brown

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mcindoefalls
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:33 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: ART Reefers Arrive



--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> com, "gary
laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

I received my 3 reefer "mistake" kits today and they are really well
done!

I take it the ebay auction is over? I'm a day late and a dollar short,
as usual.

Walt Lankenau


Re: ART Reefers Arrive

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

I take it the ebay auction is over? I'm a day late and a dollar
short, as usual.

Walt Lankenau
The auction has been run twice in the past week, in each case it was
ended early after only a couple of days. The first time there were
over 90 available and they sold 19 or 20, the second time there were
70 or so available and half were sold. Don't know why the listings
were pulled, unless there were lots of sales that didn't go through
eBay, but it looks like there may be some left. Perhaps Jerry M. will
jump in here and give an update.

Tom Madden, expecting his two kits to arrive this afternoon.


Re: ART Reefers Arrive

Don Worthy
 

Same here, Gary. I got 4 kits today and I'm really happy with them. They'll look really good in a fast freight.
Great Job to the men that were involved with the project. I know the other cars will be dead-on.
Don Worthy

gary laakso <vasa0vasa@earthlink.net> wrote:
I received my 3 reefer "mistake" kits today and they are really well done! The die work is outstanding and the paint work and lettering are really well done. Congratulations to all concerned for a job well done. Since the tabs that need to be blackened from the yellow are a separate part, the correction painting will be easy.

gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@earthlink.net
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Re: ART Reefers Arrive

mcindoefalls
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:

I received my 3 reefer "mistake" kits today and they are really well
done!

I take it the ebay auction is over? I'm a day late and a dollar short,
as usual.

Walt Lankenau


Code 88 Intermountain semi-scale wheelsets

Andy Carlson
 

With a lot of interest lately on Semi-scale wheelsets, I have restocked some semi-scale sets:
I have received a special purchase of Intermountain 33' semi-scale wheelsets. Normally priced at $10.00/12 axles, I am offering these for $6.50/ package.

Branchline 36" semi-scale wheelsets specially priced at $5.00/set of 12 axles.

Shipping will be added to the total.

I also have HO Branchline 8 rung ladder sets (for a 10-6 car) for $0.85/set. I also have Intermountain HO 8 rung ladders for (for a 10-0 car) for $0.65 ea.

Recent arrivals include Branchline HO 50' diagonal panel (non-overhanging) stanray roofs at $0.50 each.

Contact me off-list (PLEASE) if interested at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net>

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


ART Reefers Arrive

gary laakso
 

I received my 3 reefer "mistake" kits today and they are really well done! The die work is outstanding and the paint work and lettering are really well done. Congratulations to all concerned for a job well done. Since the tabs that need to be blackened from the yellow are a separate part, the correction painting will be easy.


gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
vasa0vasa@earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.


WTB RPC 2

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

Hi,



Does anyone have an RPC volume 2 that they are willing to sell?



If so, please contact me off list at:



allencain@comcast.net



Thanks,



Allen Cain


Re: Paint First--Assembe Later Sunshine Kits

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

The estimable Dr. Mith writes-

I note though that my new Sunshine GN plywood sided boxcar kit points out that the end colors were oversprayed onto the sides - so perfect paint isn't the goal in every case<VBG>.
Now Bruce, you just replicate that overspray on your model, and then see how many critics will still gush over your craftsmanship!

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: RPM meets

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Tom is right. I haven't always been perfect in this regard, but I do try to
edit my presentations so I can do them in one hour. I wish more presenters
paid attention to Martin's instructions. - Andy

Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
262-796-8776, ext. 461


Re: RPM meets

pullmanboss <tgmadden@...>
 

Tom Olsen wrote:
...the seminars are supposed to be one hour with the additional
half hour added to keep from stabbing the next persons seminar
and still give guys a chance to do whatever is necessary in
between the seminars, like go to the john, or to one's room or get
to the next seminar on time. Unfortunately, Martin did not
separate the seminars time schedule to show the 30 minute down
time and some people took advantage of the extra time to stretch
through their hour allotment of time.
It seemed pretty clear (to me, at least) from Martin's instructions to
presenters that the extra half hour was for the audience's benefit,
not the clinician's. Yet one presenter, at the 75-minute mark, glanced
at his watch in response to an increasingly restless audience and
said "Looks like I have another ten minutes". Few of us (maybe none of
us) is so gifted that we can enthrall a room full of people for over
an hour. When people start leaving, or those waiting for the next
presentation start filtering in, it's time to say "thank you" and ask
for questions.

Tom Madden


Re: Handbrake; brakewheel questions

Gatwood, Elden J SAD <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
 

Hi all;



Hope you all had a contemplative and meaningful Veteran's Day
observance/weekend!



I was hoping that some of you might answer a few questions for me on
handbrakes/wheels/housings, with an eye toward knowing what we have available
to us in HO.



1) Is there a model of a "power" Klasing handbrake wheel and/or housing
other than the odd one furnished with the Mather cars, in HO?

2) Is there a model of a post-war Klasing pump brake? And, does the
Klasing housing have the "vanes" on the outside (left) edge evident in some
photos?

3) Ditto for an Equipco pump brake?

4) Ditto for a Universal pump brake?

5) What model does the odd pump brake in some Tichy brake sets
represent?



I do have vol 10 of the RPC, so I have been educated as far as my personal
limitations can accommodate, but I am finding few options for modeling many
of the handbrakes evident...



Thanks for your advice!



Elden Gatwood


Re: RED not BLACK, not Brown, was Re: Tichy NC&StL Flat Car

Rob Adams
 

Bruce;

Mea culpa! Before responding last night, I searched my STMFC archive, quickly saw Mont Switzer's message that started out "don't make the same mistake I did", and went on to confirm that they should be black (which incidentally, also validated what I'd been told several years ago in a message forwarded to me by Jim Six, originating from a supposed expert on the NC&StL). I failed to dig further into the STMFC thread, and apologize for further confusing the issue.

This lingering confusion must serendipitously account for why my long built-up Tichy flat remains unpainted. (and may well remain so for a while)

Kind regards,

Rob Adams (now waiting for that COLOR builders photo of a the 1923 or 1926-built NC&StL flat) ;-)

Bruce Smith wrote:



On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Rob Adams wrote:

John;

Paul is correct about the discussion in the archives, but they were
painted black, not freight car red/brown.

Kind regards, Rob Adams
Rob,

Au contraire! Garrett Rea tried to clear up this mess back on
October 24, 2005 on this list with the following statement:
"I spoke with Steve Johnson at length about these and other cars this
past April before James Bilbrey and I put together our NC&StL freight
car modelling clinc and thick booklet this past May. Steve's
comments than and again this weekend along with builder and in-
service photo review still steer us to oxide red for the cars."

The RPI site notes the controversy and attributes boxcar red to
Richard Hendrickson and black to the same Steve Johnson, but based on
this discussion last year (which I precipitated), my Tichy NC&StL
flat is oxide red. Now to swap out those ECW Dalman trucks for the
Tahoe ones!

Regards
Bruce

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GN Plywood sided boxcars - Was "Paint First, Assemble Later Sunshine Kits"

Robert D. Heninger <heninger@...>
 

Bruce,
I hope that you are not thinking this is sloppy overspray, as was common
later on boxcars with galvanized roofs that were oversprayed with the side
color. The sides on the 1944 boxcars were orange, with black ends. To increase
your painting/masking enjoyment, GN was thoughtful enough to add a strip of
pullman green separating the orange and black, with a very sharp demarcation. I
believe the 1945-46 built cars were painted similarly. GN built a series of
automobile cars in 1947 with plywood sides that lacked the green trim, and also
had differently colored heralds. There were a couple of GNRHS reference sheets
on these cars, which included good photos and a painting diagram. I will double
check tonight when I have time, and let you know for sure.

Sincerely,
Robert D. Heninger, MD

Mountrail County Medical Center
P.O. Box 399
Stanley, ND 58784
phone: (701) 628-2505
email: heninger@medicine.nodak.edu


Southeastern Road Engine Closet Clearing Fire Sale

Allen Cain <allencain@...>
 

Folks,



Thanks to many of the folks on this list, I was able to sell a little over
half of the engines that I had to sell to clear out the closet.



I have now listed the remaining ones on Ebay at bargain prices which will
look great pulling cars in the steam era. These include Southern, Seaboard,
Atlantic Coast Line, Gulf Mobile and Ohio and Undecorated diesel and steam
produced by Proto2000, Athearn Genesis, Kato and, yes, one Rivarossi. All
are New In The Box having never been on a layout.



Please, if you are looking for something check out my auctions which are
listed under the Ebay user ID of:



shark*bait



You will not be disappointed!



Thanks,



Allen Cain


Re: RED not BLACK, not Brown, was Re: Tichy NC&StL Flat Car

Bruce Smith
 

On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:04 PM, Rob Adams wrote:

John;

Paul is correct about the discussion in the archives, but they were
painted black, not freight car red/brown.

Kind regards, Rob Adams
Rob,

Au contraire! Garrett Rea tried to clear up this mess back on October 24, 2005 on this list with the following statement:
"I spoke with Steve Johnson at length about these and other cars this
past April before James Bilbrey and I put together our NC&StL freight
car modelling clinc and thick booklet this past May. Steve's
comments than and again this weekend along with builder and in-
service photo review still steer us to oxide red for the cars."

The RPI site notes the controversy and attributes boxcar red to Richard Hendrickson and black to the same Steve Johnson, but based on this discussion last year (which I precipitated), my Tichy NC&StL flat is oxide red. Now to swap out those ECW Dalman trucks for the Tahoe ones!

Regards
Bruce

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Re: Pickle Cars

earlyrail
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Jim Betz <jimbetz@...> wrote:

What was the reason for the existence of the
big-wooden-vat-on-a-flat-car
pickle cars? What time frame were they in use? Were they localized
to a
particular part of the country? Were specific cars (from specific
sources)
localized? Was this an early form of captive service where the cars
were
returned to the originating location after being unloaded? How were
they
loaded and unloaded (hose/pipe?)?

Were they using the shipping time to be part of the 'cure' time of
the
pickles? Did these cars go out of use when pickles stopped being
sold out
of a barrel in the store and began to be packed into glass jars at the
factory? When they were in use were they only used to ship pickles to
bulk consumers such as a food processing plant that used pickles as a
'raw material' to produce some other product such as relish or
whatever?

Are/were pickles shipped in some other kind of car such as a car
similar to a corn syrup tank after the wooden vat cars went out of
favor?
- Jim In a Pickle in San Jose
"Pickle Cars" never had a pickle in them at all.
Cucumbers were received from the growers at a "brinery". This is that
collection of tanks most would call a pickle works. The brine
presearves the cucumber until it is sent to the real pickle works in
the 'pickle car'. At the pickle factory the cucumber was then turned
into a pickle by being placed in the vinigar solution along with
various spices.

I stopped by a brinery in North Carolina several years ago, the old
photos/drawings show them using a net to dip the cucumbers out of the
vats.

Howard Garner


Re: RPM meets

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Joe and List,

Actually, the seminars are supposed to be one hour with the additional half hour added to keep from stabbing the next persons seminar and still give guys a chance to do whatever is necessary in between the seminars, like go to the john, or to one's room or get to the next seminar on time. Unfortunately, Martin did not separate the seminars time schedule to show the 30 minute down time and some people took advantage of the extratime to stretch through their hour allotment of time.

I had talked with Tricia Lofton after the 2005 Naperville and passed on the complaints about the insufficient time to get from one seminar to the next one and still have time to do personal business in-between. She said at that time, they would look into it and try to modify the scheduling. I see that they did add the time, but will have to delineate the 1 Hour time frame for the seminars with the separate 30 minute grace period in between. If I get to talk with them soon, I will pass the information on regarding this.

Regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@udel.edu

Joseph Binish wrote:

Clark et all,
Being restricted to only one RPM per year(my time will come, but we have 4 urchins that demand time and $-poor planning on my part!) I attend Naperville. While I thought the 1 1/2 hour time between seminars would work well, I was having a hard time staying "awake" in the last 1/2 hour of the ones I attended. Trips to Des Palines and Zentex(sp?) hobbies also interfered with seminar time.

I would like to see the seminars held to 1 hour, with 15 min between time for the room shuffle, and someone to help with the computer setup for those that need it. My two cents,
Joe Binish
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From: rockroll50401 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: [STMFC] RPM meets


I was fortunate enough to be able to attend four RPM meets this year. I heard rumors of a Milwaukee meet this coming April, so thought I'd offer my thoughts on the meets I attended. Hopefully Mr. B will be tolerant beings he is involved with an event.

Stan Rydarowicz has been after Mike Moore and me to go to Cocoa Beach for a couple years. This past January we made the trip. Aside from being in Florida in January the big plus was the meet's relaxed atmosphere. Being held in a hotel has the plus of having your living quarters close to the action, but the big minus of having to leave to eat. Hotel food is overpriced and usually not that good. I come to spend my money on the hobby not food. The clinics were only on once, so you were forced to choose between them. Was a real good time, we have our plane tickets for the upcoming meet. Rated #2, but very close to #1 needs more venders and clinics held twice.

Next was the Dakota County meet in the Twin Cities. The one day meet was held in a SE suburb community center in February. Big plus here was the auditorium seating for the seminars, huge screen, PA system, comfortable seats. Down side was by having the meet in Feb the meet depended on local support. As an `out of towner' I was surprise to see all the locals pack up and leave by 5:00 pm! This happen all three years. The other big minus was no venders were allowed, only display models. Although there were over 100 paid attendees all three years (almost 200 the second year) I don't think there will be another meet next year. Rated #4

St Louis in August for me is like the Twin Cities in Feb. to others. This year the RPM went for one day to two. This brought in more `out of towners' and venders. This meet was also in a community center with hotels and restaurants within walking distance. One large room for venders and displays, this relaxed atmosphere made for a very good time. Only down side was they held the seminars in a draped off portion of the large room. I would like to see more seminars held in separate rooms. Rated #3

Naperville is the Daddy meet. This year there was a half hour between presentations and a much larger sales room. Big pluses. Again the meet is in a hotel so you have to leave for food. There are several places to eat close by. Many folks take advantage of what the large city has to offer modelers by visiting hobby shops and local layouts and Polish buffets. This show is always a good time. Rated #1

You gain friendships by attending these shows on a regular basis. They are as much a social event as an informational meet to me anymore and I appreciate all the work it takes to put something like this together. Thanks to all

Clark Propst








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BLACK, not Brown, was Re: Tichy NC&StL Flat Car - Brown or Black?

Rob Adams
 

John;

Paul is correct about the discussion in the archives, but they were painted black, not freight car red/brown.

Kind regards, Rob Adams

cobrapsl@aol.com wrote:


John, A detailed answer is in the archives. If I remember correctly, by 1950 they were BCR or freight car brown.

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA


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From: golden1014@yahoo.com <mailto:golden1014%40yahoo.com>
To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com <mailto:stmfc%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 7:38 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Tichy NC&StL Flat Car - Brown or Black?

Gentlemen,

I'm refinishing a couple of the Tichy HO 40', 50 ton
flat cars (not the ACL prototype, but rather the
NC&St.L prototype). I'm wondering if you guys knew if
the NC&St.L cars were painted freight car brown or
black. The prototypes appear in the '31 CBC but
there's no mention of car color, and the references in
the instructions are ambiguous. I'm modeling c. 1950
if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance for the
help!

John

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

Hosting the 4th Annual St. Louis RPM Meet
24 - 25 Aug, 2007
Gateway Convention Center, Collinsville, IL

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