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Re: Mike Del Vecchio

MDelvec952
 


Re: Intro and P&N question

destron@...
 

Martin,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm already a member of that group.

Generally to the list, could anyone tell me how I might contact whomever
is arranging "Bob's Photo"?

Frank Valoczy
Modelling the Piedmont & Northern in TT.

You could try the P&N Yahoo group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/piedmontandnorthernrr/

Martin

--- In STMFC@..., "Ferko" <destron@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just joined the group, thought I'd give a little bit of intro
before
getting to a question.

Though born and raised in North America, I've only recently taken
up a
serious interest in our railroads, and have been learning all I
can,
having taken a special interest in electric operations, the
railways
of British Columbia (where I live), and especially, railroading in
the
Piedmont Carolinas, and even more specifically, the Piedmont &
Northern (and the railways with which it interchanged). And this
all
in 1950 or so, because that way I can accurately model electric,
diesel and steam in the Piedmont.

I have a friend locally who introduced me to the STMFC website and
has
been teaching me about all manner of detail of North American
railroading. Freight-specifically, I've been discovering my
interests
to be especially centred on boxcars. Still learning a lot, but I've
already found a few early favourites.

Modelling-wise, I work in TT scale - that was my scale when
modelling
European prototypes, and since my interests on this side of the
ocean
are mainly those that would require scratchbuilding in any scale,
staying with TT doesn't make things any more difficult (an aside on
scratchbuilding: I like it, because that way I can do things
exactly
to the standards that I want!)

As a first question, I would ask whether anyone might be able to
point
me in the direction of photos of Piedmont & Northern freight cars -
specifically the 1100-series boxcars, as well as photos of freight
cars taken in Greenville, Greenwood and Spartanburg, SC, taken in
1950.

Cheers,
Frank Valoczy
Modelling the Piedmont & Northern in TT.




Yahoo! Groups Links





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Re: Intro and P&N question

mwbpequod
 

You could try the P&N Yahoo group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/piedmontandnorthernrr/

Martin

--- In STMFC@..., "Ferko" <destron@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just joined the group, thought I'd give a little bit of intro
before
getting to a question.

Though born and raised in North America, I've only recently taken
up a
serious interest in our railroads, and have been learning all I
can,
having taken a special interest in electric operations, the
railways
of British Columbia (where I live), and especially, railroading in
the
Piedmont Carolinas, and even more specifically, the Piedmont &
Northern (and the railways with which it interchanged). And this
all
in 1950 or so, because that way I can accurately model electric,
diesel and steam in the Piedmont.

I have a friend locally who introduced me to the STMFC website and
has
been teaching me about all manner of detail of North American
railroading. Freight-specifically, I've been discovering my
interests
to be especially centred on boxcars. Still learning a lot, but I've
already found a few early favourites.

Modelling-wise, I work in TT scale - that was my scale when
modelling
European prototypes, and since my interests on this side of the
ocean
are mainly those that would require scratchbuilding in any scale,
staying with TT doesn't make things any more difficult (an aside on
scratchbuilding: I like it, because that way I can do things
exactly
to the standards that I want!)

As a first question, I would ask whether anyone might be able to
point
me in the direction of photos of Piedmont & Northern freight cars -
specifically the 1100-series boxcars, as well as photos of freight
cars taken in Greenville, Greenwood and Spartanburg, SC, taken in
1950.

Cheers,
Frank Valoczy
Modelling the Piedmont & Northern in TT.


Mike Del Vecchio

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Does anyone on the list have an e-mail for Mike Del Vecchio? I've lost the one I had.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Very Special CLOSE-OUT prices for Dalman 2 level trucks

Andy Carlson
 

I am no longer going to sell code 110 wheelset equipped Tahoe Model Works Dalmann and Archbar trucks. To clear these out, I am offering them at a very good price of $4.00 each when purchased in multiples of 5 pairs.

Dalman 2-level with plain bolsters (list $6.25)
Dalman 2-level w/ lateral motion (list $6.25)
Arch Bar trucks (list $6.25)

Shipping will require an additional $4.00 for Priority mail



Please contact me off-list at <midcentury@...>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: HO Brass air hoses. Was: Air hose bracket and air hose part

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Current brass air hose products:
Cal Scale #190-277 4/$2.95
PSC #3150 6/$2.25

I have been attempting to get some "bulk" quotes in an effort to make these more affordable.

From Bowser I have been able to get an approximate quote of about $0.25/air hose/angle cock in a batch of 200 minimum ($50). This would be their Cal Scale #190-277. The pricing is predicated on it being a "coat tail" order for other castings, and in this regard, the delivery time would be about anywhere up to several months.

BTW, the casting would be done in China, hence the long timetable.

I have made similar inquiry to PSC re: their #3150 air hoses, but although promised a reply, I have yet to receive one.

Stay tuned.

Denny


--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Mike Del Vecchio

Edward Dabler
 

Tony

Try _MDelvec952@... (mailto:MDelvec952@...) .

Ed Dabler


Intro and P&N question

Ferko <destron@...>
 

Hi everyone,

Just joined the group, thought I'd give a little bit of intro before
getting to a question.

Though born and raised in North America, I've only recently taken up a
serious interest in our railroads, and have been learning all I can,
having taken a special interest in electric operations, the railways
of British Columbia (where I live), and especially, railroading in the
Piedmont Carolinas, and even more specifically, the Piedmont &
Northern (and the railways with which it interchanged). And this all
in 1950 or so, because that way I can accurately model electric,
diesel and steam in the Piedmont.

I have a friend locally who introduced me to the STMFC website and has
been teaching me about all manner of detail of North American
railroading. Freight-specifically, I've been discovering my interests
to be especially centred on boxcars. Still learning a lot, but I've
already found a few early favourites.

Modelling-wise, I work in TT scale - that was my scale when modelling
European prototypes, and since my interests on this side of the ocean
are mainly those that would require scratchbuilding in any scale,
staying with TT doesn't make things any more difficult (an aside on
scratchbuilding: I like it, because that way I can do things exactly
to the standards that I want!)

As a first question, I would ask whether anyone might be able to point
me in the direction of photos of Piedmont & Northern freight cars -
specifically the 1100-series boxcars, as well as photos of freight
cars taken in Greenville, Greenwood and Spartanburg, SC, taken in 1950.

Cheers,
Frank Valoczy
Modelling the Piedmont & Northern in TT.


Pittsburgh Area RPM meet March 30-31, 2007

Larry Kline
 

Pittsburgh Area RPM meet
Dates: March 30-31, 2007
Location: Sheraton Four Points Hotel. Route 30 East, Greensburg, PA.
Room rate is $89.00 plus tax. Ph. (724) 836-6060 Mention "Prototype
Modelerĺs Meet."
More info on the hotel is available at:
http://www.greensburgpa4points.com/

More information on the meet and a registration form are available at:
http://www.keystonedivision.org/

Speakers: Paul Backentose, Ralph Barger, Ted Culotta, Jim Dalberg,
Gerard Fitzgerald, Dick Flock, Dick Foley, Tim Frederick, Steve
Funaro, Eric Hansmann, Ron Hoess, Ben Hom, Dennis Lippert, Lance
Mindheim, John Roberts, Jim Ruffing, Stan Rydarowicz, Bill Schaumburg,
Mike Schleigh, Gene Schaeffer, Todd Sullivan, Dave Wilson, Bill Welch

We will have a large display area, please bring your models.

Please pardon the cross posting

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

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Re: Decals for DL&W Steam Locomotives

John F. Cizmar
 

According to their website, DL&W steam locomotive decals are advertised to be available soon.
John Cizmar

Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
Check with Prime Mover Decals, and if they don't have it, plead with the owner (a Lackawanna fan) to
PLEEEEEEEASE make them. ERIE steam decals too.

http://primemoverdecals.com/

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On
Behalf Of Thomas M. Olsen
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:11 AM
To: Steam Freight Car List
Subject: [STMFC] Decals for DL&W Steam Locomotives

Good morning all,

I have a buddy that just purchased a Proto-2000 USRA 0-8-0
switcher that
apparently is a match for the 0-8-0's that the Lackawanna used. He is
asking if anyone knows who makes accurate DL&W decals for steam
locomotives. He advises that the Champ set lettering for the
tender is
too large and cannot be used.

If anyone has an idea of what would be correct to use, please advise.
Thanking you all in advance!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@... <mailto:tmolsen%40udel.edu>








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InterMountain ART Steel Reefers Photos Added to List

asychis <asychis@...>
 

I uploaded two photos to an album on the site entitled ART Steel
Reefers. It will require administrative approval before it can be
accessed.

The first photo shows all of the detail parts for the cars. The items
in question are parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is the ladder sprue which is
completely wrong for the car, and part 2 is the spure that is mis-
registered. Both parts will be replaced by InterMountain. I will be
sending them a list of customers this week. Once they get part 2
recast, and hopefully in register this time, they will do the mailing.

Please note, as far as we are able to determine, the parts for the
first run, with the incorrectly painted side sill and numbers applied
have the correct parts. So this applied only to those kits in the
second run which were painted correcctly and did not have numbers
applied.

Jerry Michels
Amarillo Railroad Museum
Very Frustrated Custom Car Coordinator


Customer Support was Re: Intermountain ART reefer

jerryglow2
 

As opposed to others who have excellent customer support, Branchline
being among the best I've dealt with.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "pierreoliver2003" <pierre.oliver@...>
wrote:

In fact, yes I did.
I expressed my disappointment in no uncertain terms and was left with
the distinct impression from the individual I contacted, that it's
"buyer beware" at Intermountain. No offer of replacement or other
remediation.
Which also reinforced my decision to spend my money elsewhere.
Pierre Oliver


Re: Intermountain ART reefer

asychis@...
 

I agree with Brian.The parts for my ART reefer are crude and not up to
Intermountains'usual high standards.Could it be due to the excess paint that
was added by the vendor?Armand Premo

Armand,

The "vendor" is InterMountain. Please see Ed Hawkins explanation of the
problem. Thanks!

Jerry Michels


Re: Decals for DL&W Steam Locomotives

tmolsen@...
 

Schuyler,

Thanks for the tip regarding PrimeMover Decals. I checked their site recently, but they had not posted anything regarding the DL&W steam locomotive decals. The owner must have just posted this sometime Monday during the day.

Hopefully, I will get a response to my email query as to when these new decals will hit the market. If I get a positive response, I will post it here on the list for the rest of the members.

Thanks for your response. Let us see what transpires!

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Re: Propane Tank Cars

Ed Hawkins
 

On Jan 29, 2007, at 10:12 PM, RICH NUNN wrote:

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good HO model of a 10,500
gallon propane tank car as depicted in the RP CYC volume 7by Mr.
Hawkins?

Rich,
Still no HO model yet other than the Overland brass model discussed at
the end of the article. There has been some series interest, but
nothing yet to my knowledge is actually in work. Maybe some day and
I'll keep trying!
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Intermountain ART reefer

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

Thank you for the quick response to this problem!
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni



From: Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:18:59 -0600
To: MoPac Discussion Group <MOPAC@...>, STMFC Discussion Group
<STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ART reefer





Brian,
The following is a reply to your message (sent to the STMFC and MoPac
discussion groups) and to all customers who received ART kits from the
most recent batch that came with correctly painted side sills. First, I
want to thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. We concur
with your finding that the ladders don't fit and various parts on one
other parts tree were molded incorrectly with "poor registration,"
having a mismatch on the top and bottom halves of various parts on this
tree. Affected are the more delicate parts including hatch cover
hardware, placards, brake step hardware, running board end supports,
and roof corner grabs.

Jerry Michels of the Amarillo Railroad Museum and I have collaborated,
and this morning I also spoke with personnel at InterMountain about the
issues you reported. There are two separate issues as discussed below.
Jerry Michels will upload a scan to the photos section of
yahoogroups.com showing all the parts trees that were included in the
kits we received from InterMountain (file name is ART Parts Sprue.jpg).
Please use this scan for reference.

Part #1 shown on the scan (4 ladders and a set of grab irons; painted
yellow) was not supposed to be part of this kit and was erroneously
supplied. Part #2 was molded with an offset with respect to the top and
bottom halves of the parts tree. When I reviewed the test shots for
this model, the sample parts I received were molded perfectly and did
not contain the mismatch you detected. Our assumption and assurance
from InterMountain was that all parts would be molded per the test
shots. Unfortunately this was not the case.

InterMountain Railway Company will remedy the incorrect and defective
parts. They have agreed to supply a new parts tree, which contains the
proper side ladders and set of 8 grab irons that unexplainably were
removed from Part #5 and substituted with the wrong parts tree. The
correct ladders and grab irons will be painted yellow to match the
sides. InterMountain will also rerun and paint Part #2 without the
mismatch and paint the parts tree as required.

Jerry Michels is in process of furnishing InterMountain with a list of
all customers who were shipped one or more of these ART kits. When the
correct and "good" parts trees are available, InterMountain will ship
them directly to the customers in the quantities required. Thus, please
wait to assemble the kits until these parts have been delivered. Your
patience is appreciated.

New orders for kits will be held until the correct parts are received
in Amarillo and can be replaced in the kits boxes.

As many of you know, we have experienced a number of delays and
setbacks with the ART models. I have conveyed in very clear terms our
dissatisfaction with InterMountain's quality control process in which
quality problems have continued to occur during the tooling,
manufacturing, painting, and assembly process. The Amarillo Railroad
Museum and Missouri Pacific Historical Society apologizes for the
errors and omissions that have occurred with these kits and we will use
them all as lessons learned when we proceed with other paint schemes
(the 1950s scheme with MP buzzsaw and Wabash flag will soon be
started).

In the near future, Jerry Michels will also upload to the Amarillo RR
Museum web site (www.amarillorailmuseum.com) a pdf file that contains
modified PFE R-40-10 instructions covering various ART assembly items
that deviate from the PFE R-40-10. This file also contains some
prototype photos for reference. Please contact me off-list if you have
any questions.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins (hawk0621@... <mailto:hawk0621%40sbcglobal.net> )
ART Technical Project Manager

On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Brian Paul Ehni wrote:

Bought three of these kits from the Amarillo Museum, and am very
disappointed with the quality of the castings provided by
Intermountain.

Many of the smaller parts are close to unusable due to poor
registration of
the die halves. For example, the hatch stops, instead of being a
curved
piece of flat stock, are two-level in a way I cannot describe. Think
of a
round grab iron, cast as two half-circles, slightly (but visibly)
off-center. This problem includes the brake step supports, not to
mention
the mounting pins for these parts.

The side ladders supplied (and there are two kinds) mount into four
holes in
the body. Problem is both sets of ladders have 6 pins (easy enough to
correct). Oh, wait, one set of ladders is too tall. And the other set
of
ladders has one set of end pins offset, so they won┬╣t even match the
car
side holes.

And then, there is the overall crudeness of the parts themselves. The
hatch
bars (the ones that support the hatch in the open position, and hold
them
closed) won┬╣t fit thru the holes in the hatches. And I won┬╣t even get
into
the scale 6┬▓ thick brake rod.

Overall, I┬╣m extremely disappointed in Intermountain┬╣s ART reefer kit.

Has anyone else noticed these things? And if so, why keep quiet about
it?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Propane Tank Cars

RICH NUNN <flyingtigers_nunn@...>
 

Dear Listers:

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good HO model of a 10,500 gallon propane tank car as depicted in the RP CYC volume 7by Mr. Hawkins?

Thanks,
Rich Nunn


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Early '30s Pullman Drawings?

John Degnan <Scaler164@...>
 

As some of you may know, over the last 2 years, I have been working on having a Seaboard Air Line Class B-7 "Turtle-Back" boxcar produced in S scale (and maybe in HO as well). This car is already available in HO from Sunshine Models, but only on an occasional basis; "IF" and "WHEN" they do a run of them. The project has been adopted by Jim King of www.smokymountainmodelworks.com, and should be in production before the end of THIS year.

Amazingly, my efforts have turned up the actual Pullman drawings of this car; found in the Pullman Library at the Illinois Railway Museum with the help of Mr. Ted Anderson, the curator. However, this car, built in 1941, is basically a 1932 car with different roofs and ends, and some of the references found in the drawings refer to other Pullman drawings that have earlier #s... drawings that were not found, and I assume to be of the earlier, 1932 cars. All of my findings about this car can be viewed on the following web page :

http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/SALRoundRoofBoxCarProject.htm

So, based on the details of the car on that page, I need to know if anyone has any drawings of early 1930s Pullman boxcars that had matching characteristics (frame, etc) of this 1941 car. I would also like to know if anyone knows the paint code for the "Dupont Tufcote Metallic Brown" this car was painted in.

Any other information on these cars would also be helpful in making this model as accurate as possible.

Thanks in advance.


John Degnan
Scaler164@...
The Seaboard Air Line Information Collective and Photo Archive
www.trainweb.org/seaboard or
www.trainweb.org/seabonard/index.htm


Re: Intermountain ART reefer

Ed Hawkins
 

Brian,
The following is a reply to your message (sent to the STMFC and MoPac
discussion groups) and to all customers who received ART kits from the
most recent batch that came with correctly painted side sills. First, I
want to thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. We concur
with your finding that the ladders don't fit and various parts on one
other parts tree were molded incorrectly with "poor registration,"
having a mismatch on the top and bottom halves of various parts on this
tree. Affected are the more delicate parts including hatch cover
hardware, placards, brake step hardware, running board end supports,
and roof corner grabs.

Jerry Michels of the Amarillo Railroad Museum and I have collaborated,
and this morning I also spoke with personnel at InterMountain about the
issues you reported. There are two separate issues as discussed below.
Jerry Michels will upload a scan to the photos section of
yahoogroups.com showing all the parts trees that were included in the
kits we received from InterMountain (file name is ART Parts Sprue.jpg).
Please use this scan for reference.

Part #1 shown on the scan (4 ladders and a set of grab irons; painted
yellow) was not supposed to be part of this kit and was erroneously
supplied. Part #2 was molded with an offset with respect to the top and
bottom halves of the parts tree. When I reviewed the test shots for
this model, the sample parts I received were molded perfectly and did
not contain the mismatch you detected. Our assumption and assurance
from InterMountain was that all parts would be molded per the test
shots. Unfortunately this was not the case.

InterMountain Railway Company will remedy the incorrect and defective
parts. They have agreed to supply a new parts tree, which contains the
proper side ladders and set of 8 grab irons that unexplainably were
removed from Part #5 and substituted with the wrong parts tree. The
correct ladders and grab irons will be painted yellow to match the
sides. InterMountain will also rerun and paint Part #2 without the
mismatch and paint the parts tree as required.

Jerry Michels is in process of furnishing InterMountain with a list of
all customers who were shipped one or more of these ART kits. When the
correct and "good" parts trees are available, InterMountain will ship
them directly to the customers in the quantities required. Thus, please
wait to assemble the kits until these parts have been delivered. Your
patience is appreciated.

New orders for kits will be held until the correct parts are received
in Amarillo and can be replaced in the kits boxes.

As many of you know, we have experienced a number of delays and
setbacks with the ART models. I have conveyed in very clear terms our
dissatisfaction with InterMountain's quality control process in which
quality problems have continued to occur during the tooling,
manufacturing, painting, and assembly process. The Amarillo Railroad
Museum and Missouri Pacific Historical Society apologizes for the
errors and omissions that have occurred with these kits and we will use
them all as lessons learned when we proceed with other paint schemes
(the 1950s scheme with MP buzzsaw and Wabash flag will soon be
started).

In the near future, Jerry Michels will also upload to the Amarillo RR
Museum web site (www.amarillorailmuseum.com) a pdf file that contains
modified PFE R-40-10 instructions covering various ART assembly items
that deviate from the PFE R-40-10. This file also contains some
prototype photos for reference. Please contact me off-list if you have
any questions.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins (hawk0621@...)
ART Technical Project Manager

On Jan 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Brian Paul Ehni wrote:

Bought three of these kits from the Amarillo Museum, and am very
disappointed with the quality of the castings provided by
Intermountain.

Many of the smaller parts are close to unusable due to poor
registration of
the die halves. For example, the hatch stops, instead of being a
curved
piece of flat stock, are two-level in a way I cannot describe. Think
of a
round grab iron, cast as two half-circles, slightly (but visibly)
off-center. This problem includes the brake step supports, not to
mention
the mounting pins for these parts.

The side ladders supplied (and there are two kinds) mount into four
holes in
the body. Problem is both sets of ladders have 6 pins (easy enough to
correct). Oh, wait, one set of ladders is too tall. And the other set
of
ladders has one set of end pins offset, so they won┬╣t even match the
car
side holes.

And then, there is the overall crudeness of the parts themselves. The
hatch
bars (the ones that support the hatch in the open position, and hold
them
closed) won┬╣t fit thru the holes in the hatches. And I won┬╣t even get
into
the scale 6┬▓ thick brake rod.

Overall, I┬╣m extremely disappointed in Intermountain┬╣s ART reefer kit.

Has anyone else noticed these things? And if so, why keep quiet about
it?


Re: Like it says . . . Interesting photo for freight car guys . . .

Schuyler Larrabee
 

That's what I understand from the caption on the photo. Very likely.

SGL


Schuyler,

Any idea what all those empty gons were for? Is that what the crated
machinery arrived in?

I also note that a previously stated axiom remains true. We have one
NP box car in the photo ;-)

regards,
Andy Miller

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