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Re: Piedmont & Northern cars

destron@...
 

Wow, thanks for that link! It's a bit after my modelling era (1950), but
it's P&N so it's interesting. Do you have any information about that photo
- where it was taken, and when? Judging from the "NEW 9-66" stencil on it,
I'd guess it was sometime between 66 and 68. Was the picture from
somewhere on the CaSo line?

Frank Valoczy
New Westminster, BC

No fantasy car from Atlas - P&N had 10 of them #500-509 built in 1966.

http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/non-nyc/images/p&n-502.jpg


Terry Link
Bramalea, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Freight Cars in Manitowoc Wisconsin on CNW

Douglas Harding
 

Last I knew, the entire state of Wisconsin was east of the Mississippi
River. The river actually forms the border between Wisconson on the
east and Iowa and Minnesota on the west. So it would appear neither car
is inviolation. Even if they contained Southern Illinois coal, they
still did not get west of the Mississippi.

Doug Harding


Apology

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Feb 11, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Mike Brock wrote:

Guys,
Note that Richard said...

"If you're interested
in seeing an inventory of what I'm offering, e-mail me OFF LIST,
please, and I'll send it by return e-mail."

OFF LIST means not on the STMFC. The 1200+ members don't need to know about
your transactions. Before this develops into another 10 or so
messages...Thanks.
To make matters worse, apparently someone on the list asked for my inventory via the list last night, not in an off-list message, and when I responded to them I inadvertently posted my inventory to the entire list. My apologies for inflicting it on y'all and wasting a bunch of bandwidth. I'll try to be more careful so it doesn't happen again.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Piedmont & Northern cars

Terry Link <trlink@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: <destron@...>
I've managed to piece together some information about P&N freight cars.
Lastly: Atlas made an O scale model of a PS-1 in blue colour, marked as
Piedmont & Northern no. 501. Fantasy? I've seen absolutely nothing to
suggest that the P&N received any new boxcars after dieselization...
No fantasy car from Atlas - P&N had 10 of them #500-509 built in 1966.

http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/non-nyc/images/p&n-502.jpg


Terry Link
Bramalea, Ontario, Canada
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www.canadasouthern.com


Piedmont & Northern cars

destron@...
 

I've managed to piece together some information about P&N freight cars.

Dump cars:

In the 1931 Car Builders' Cyc there is on page 437 a photo of a Koppel 20
cubic yard dump car, number 8550. Probably for MoW, and lasted into at
least the 1950s - in the Fetters book there's a picture in which one can
be seen (p144), with no wires over the tracks, marking it as being after
1954.

Is there further information out there besides the 31 Cyc about the
"Koppel 20 cu. yd. Rolling Trunion Type RT-1 Dump Car"? On the same page
of that Cyc is a picture of a Reading car (#91455), identified in the
caption as being of the same type, but 30 cu. yd. There are also other
notable differences between the two, especially the reservoir(s).

Boxcars (1100 series):

The boxcar type with the most information out there is P&N series
1100-1124. 1950 and 1953 ORER lists them as 'steel frame', but this is
perhaps misleading as will become evident further along...

I have information for a few of these cars:

1101: Broadside photo on p165 of the Fetters book shows wood-sided SS car,
U-section Bettendorf or Andrews trucks, door similar to 1102 with small
difference (one pair of ribs has a larger space between them on 1101);
lettering as narrow Roman "Piedmont & Northern" on three lines above the
road number to the left of the door, and the triple-lightning bolt logo in
a circle (one of several versions of this logo I've seen) to the right.

1102: Hutchins ends, double sheathed wood sides after 1954 (no wires in
the photo, which I found online without credit or info). Lettering:
"Piedmont and Northern" inscription on three lines in an art deco-ish
Gothic typeface over the large road number (all to the left of the door),
to the right is a "Service with Courtesy" herald (unlike all the others
I've seen - probably a repainting, as at some point in the late 50s or 60s
they abandoned the triple lightning-bolt logo).

1108: I found a reference to this having Vulcan ends, but have yet to see
the photograph (on someone's list of photos).

1112: Photo in the 1954 P&N in-house publication "Piedmont Prodigy".
Hutchins ends, 6-5-6 doors (different than 1102!), trucks are difficult to
make out but look to be same as 1101. Lettering is "Piedmont & Northern"
on a single arched line centred over "P&N" above the roadnumber to the
left of the door, with the logo the same as on #1101 on the right. But,
this photo confuses the issue a bit as it looks to be steel sided - on all
the other photos I've seen, it's clearly wood sided. It may be just that
the image is too poor to make the lines out, but I doubt that - the
lettering seems undisturbed by grooves, and even some of the small data
can be made out.

1118: Saw mention of a photo of this car, with Hutchins ends. Atlas did a
model in O scale of a car lettered in the "Service with Courtesy" herald.
The ends on the model are incorrect, as they are not Hutchins ends, and I
haven't yet seen the photo of the prototype to say whether the lettering
is correct or not.

Boxcars (12000 or 17000 series)

On page 53 of the Fetters book there is a picture taken sometime in the
1920s of an electric loco in front of a string of P&N boxcars of what look
to be 12000 or 17000 series - single sheathed cars, wooden; the P&N did
have cars in interchange through the 20s and 30s, but whether this type
was or not, I don't know. Silver Streak or Ye Olde Huff and Puff did a kit
of a P&N wooden boxcar in HO scale at some point, numbered 12073, but from
the picture I have of this kit, it seems to be a model of a double
sheathed or an inside-braced car, which the prototype photo disproves (the
photo of the kit shows only a side wall). The other possibility is that
the prototype photo has cars marked in the 17000s, which would provide the
prototype for the early 1980s special run by MicroTrains of outside-braced
boxcars in N scale. This photo is thus far the only one I've found of
either a 12000 or 17000 series of boxcars. (I have photos of all of these
mentioned models).

Boxcars (24000 series):
This is the series that was sold in 1939 to Akron, Canton & Youngstown.
But, from what I've found, 150 were sold to the AC&Y (becoming the 2100
series), but according to the 1930 ORER, the P&N had 165 of them. I have
no idea whether the remaining 15 cars remained on the P&N, or if they were
disposed of some other way, or if the ORER is incorrect (as it sometimes
is). On this note: there seems to be a lot more information about the AC&Y
2100 series out there than any P&N stuff - does anyone know of drawings
and photos of these cars?

Lastly: Atlas made an O scale model of a PS-1 in blue colour, marked as
Piedmont & Northern no. 501. Fantasy? I've seen absolutely nothing to
suggest that the P&N received any new boxcars after dieselization...

If anyone has any further information about any of these cars, it'd be
enormously appreciated.

Frank Valoczy


Re: The DS/SS split - More Unknowns

cshope@...
 

I will look for the MP and T&P Cars tonight.



Respectfully submitted

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Monroe, Louisiana 71201

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From: laramielarry [mailto:ostresh@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:16 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: The DS/SS split - More Unknowns



Hi Folks

Since I posted a new list of Unknowns yesterday, many have been
solved or I have offers to solve them. These are the ones that remain
Unknown:

GA, XM, Box, 17000-17099, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 97
WofA, XM, Box, 17000-17147, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 120
A&WP, XM, Box, 37000-37133, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 102
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
SLSF, XM, Box, 151000-151099, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 151100-151199, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 98
SLSF, XM, Box, 151200-151284, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 84
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 10'0", 100000, 112
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 48
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 49
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152000-152099, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 74
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 45
SOUTHERN, XM, Box, 409000-409999, 36'0", 6'0", 80000, 153
T&P, XM, Box, 30000-30316, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 312
T&P, XAR, Auto, 61000-61099, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 71
T&P, XAR, Auto, 72000-72024, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 25
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


DL&W

Justin Kahn
 

Dear Tom
I'm afraid not within a country mile; I'm not sure whether to suggest you encourage him to join STMFC to sample what serious concern for prototype fidelity looks like or discourage him from joining, lest it drive him out of model railroading entirely.
I agree about the several H&BTM modern small 2-8-0's (only four, or were there more?): lovely lines.
I wonder how close a Ma&Pa modern (i.e., #41-43) would be without the Elesco FW heater?
Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.



I mentioned that to my buddy, but he just wanted a stand-in for one of
the DL&W 0-8-0's: said that it was close! My reply was "O-K-A-Y!"
Surprising since this person is a stickler for doing it right!

Now if I could only find an engine that could be re-worked to be a
Huntingdon & Broad Top Mountain 2-8-0 #37 which was a standard off-the-
shelf Baldwin.
Tom Olsen
Um, Tom, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I am pretty sure the
DL&W
didn't have any USRA 0-8-0's; their only 0-8-0's, as I recall, were the
homebuilts from 4-6-2's to keep the shop crews employed during the
Depressions. Now the ERIE had USRA-type 0-8-0's...
Jace Kahn, General Manager
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New P2K 50' Boxcars in SP-Build Date/Re-weigh Data on car?

ogdentowebercanyon
 

I am intersted in purchasing some of the new releases of the Proto
2000 50' single door boxcars decorated for Southern Pacific that just
came out. Anyone know what the builddate and re-weigh date is on the
car? Not living close to a hobby shop I have to mail order. Thanks.

Jason Sanford


Re: Red Caboose X29 patch panels

Paul Lyons
 

The patch panels on the RC kits I do not believe are correctly tooled as a typical representation of how this repair was carried out. They are rendered as if a continuous plate was welded all the way across the bottom of the car. From a technical point of view, this has never made much sense to me as the "patch" weld where you transitioned over the lap seams would be a real problem to execute. My clear answer of how "patch" panels were applied came at Cocco Beach this year. Ted Culotta in his presentation had a photo of an X 29 in just the right sunlight to high-light the "patch" panels. Although the "patch" panel on this car was the same height all the way across the bottom, the "patches" were clearly distinct sheets, each the width of the panel they were "patching", and not one continuous sheet as represented on the RC model. Clearly the bottom two or three rivets at each seam had been removed, the old panel cut away, a new "patch" plate welded to the bottom of the panel and the panel seam re-riveted. I spoke with Richard Hendrickson about the photo while it was being presented and he confirmed, that to his knowledge, this was how the patches were applied. It also clearly illustrates why there was more than one height. The worker doing the "patching" simply removed what needed to be removed from each panel solely on a need to replace basis. Obviously, making one torch cut along a single line and having all the the replacement "patch" panels the same size was easier and quicker. I await my Pennsy peers thoughts on the matter.........

Paul Lyons
Laguna Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: brian@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Red Caboose X29 patch panels


Jim: I can answer part of the question, RC retooled the early PRR X29 (good
for B&O M-26b). I am still at work so I don't have a car to measure the
height of the patch panels. They are already out, I have 11 decorated bodies
and 2 undecs I bought off Andy Carlson (No relation). Warning the kits are
expensive, $2 less than the RTR. Red Caboose's way to sell less kits.

I do know from looking at prototype photo's they were not all the same height
on the PRR.

Brian J Carlson

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:28:57 -0000, jim_mischke wrote
Questions:

I understand Red Caboose is coming out with PRR X29 bodies with
patch panels.

- What is the height of the PRR patch panels? B&O's M-26 patch
panels were 15" high.

Red caboose produces three bodies, differing by rivet lines and
panel lap arrangemebts: (1) ARA standard (good for B&O M-26a) (2)
early PRR X29 (good for B&O M-26b) and (3) late PRR X29

- Which one of these three bodies has Red Caboose retooled with
patch panels??

Any insights would be appreciated.

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Dalman users list

Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
 

Shawn Beckert wrote

Well, I tried searching the archives to get an idea of which type
of Dalman was more common, plain bolster or lateral motion. I
found little information on this. So, if I have a lot of steam-era kits
in the closet (and I do) what percentage of each design should I
have on hand: 50/50, 25/75? Some other proportion?
Available from Tahoe Model Works is a two page list of cars equipped with Dalman 2 Level trucks, divided between plain and lateral motion, and including HO resin and plastic freight cars matching the prototypes. This was compiled from what books and magazines I have, so is not complete, but should be useful.

To acquire this list, either mail a #10 SASE to the address below including a note for the Dalman list (and this will get you on the mailing list for future product announcements) or e-mail me at b.leppert@..., although I think your computer will need Microsoft Word to receive it.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
5801 Sheep Drive # 7
Carson City, NV 89701


Re: New HO 1944 "short rib" CMStP&P ribside boxcars.

Tim O'Connor
 

Denny I think this is the same car that Intermountain is doing.
There was a model on display at the IRC booth at Springfield. My
question about the Ribside car: did they fix the roof?

Tim O'Connor


--- Denny Anspach wrote:

I had the opportunity this morning of examining
Jim Singer's new 5th Ave Car Shops custom
iteration of this new short-ribbed car kit
recently produced new by George Schmidt's
Ribside Cars� representing the 1944 production of
1000 cars #2188-22187. The most striking
difference compared to the original 1939 cars
were its new short ribs, caused by "recessing"
the doors, ladders, and side grabs so that the
slightly widened car (4") still stayed within the
clearance diagram. These ribs short ribs were
also interspersed with very thin and shallow
intermediary ribs, reportedly required by the use
of different steel during WWII.

The only common model of this car previously
available was (and still is) the MDC (now Athearn
Roundhouse) version, first produced in all cast
metal in the fifties, and now molded
styrene.Although a good model for its day, the
thick detail parts, the imaginary roof, the wrong
doors (originally- the right doors were
supplied!) and the molded ladders and grabs have
made it currently distinctly obsolete (I made one
last attempt to make this sow's ear into a silk
purse last year, gave up, and sold them all at at
the Roseville show).


ADMIN: Re: Kits/Models For Sale

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Guys,
Note that Richard said...

"If you're interested
in seeing an inventory of what I'm offering, e-mail me OFF LIST,
please, and I'll send it by return e-mail."

OFF LIST means not on the STMFC. The 1200+ members don't need to know about your transactions. Before this develops into another 10 or so messages...Thanks.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Richard Remiarz
 

For some reason, when the message goes out from the STFMC list, the URL is listed twice in a row, and won't work. The copy I sent directly to to myself was correct. I'll try one more time, but if it doesn't work again, try highlighting just the first half of the URL (before it repeats itself).

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm>

Richard Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Yoder<mailto:oscale48@...>
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????


Unfortunately it still doesn't link.

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM
www.richyodermodels.com<http://www.richyodermodels.com/>




-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...> [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Joseph Binish
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:42 PM
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Thanks, Rich. See fellas how a good pal can bail you out when you have
FFS(Fat Finger Syndrome), strep and a sprained ankle?
Joe Binish
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD REMIARZ
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????


Let's try that again.


http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm%3Chttp://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr>
clubum/gopherrail.htm>

Richard Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD REMIARZ<mailto:rremiarz@...<mailto:rremiarz@...>>
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

This link should work.


http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm%3Chttp://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr>
clubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm%3Ch<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm%3Ch>
ttp://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm>>

Richard Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Yoder<mailto:oscale48@...<mailto:oscale48@...<mailto:oscale48@...%3Cmailto:oscale48@...>>>
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro<mailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@yahoogro>
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

The link doesn't work.

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM

www.richyodermodels.com<http://www.richyodermodels.com/<http://www.richy<http://www.richyodermodels.com%3chttp//www.richyodermodels.com/%3Chttp://www.richy>
odermodels.com%3chttp//www.richyodermodels.com/>>

-----Original Message-----
From:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro<mailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@yahoogro>
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>> [mailto:STMFC@...]
On Behalf Of
Joseph Binish
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:37 AM
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro<mailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@yahoogro>
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Dave,
Gopher Rail has taken over Greg Smith's RPM. It will be held @ 1701
University on Feb 24. Check out
www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/<http://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/<http://www.tc<http://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/%3Chttp://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/%3Chttp://www.tc>
.umn.due/~rrclubum/%3Chttp://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/>>
Joe Binish

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Powell
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro<mailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@...%3Cmailto:STMFC@yahoogro>
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Hi,
Is there an RPM meet in the Twin Cities area at all? I live in
Northern Iowa and was told there is one but I can't find out anymore
info than what I have. I was hoping for a one day event. Dave
Powell Iowa



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Re: N&W Hoppers with White Rectangles?

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

Thanks Jim, that's interesting.

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: James F. Brewer

While working at the NWHS archives one day I stumbled across a stenciling diagram with the large white block on it. The note indicated that the white block was to be applied on cars equipped with air brakes. I don't remember the number of the drawing but had a copy made and gave it to Al Westerfield at Timonium a few years ago.

Some have suggested this was done so the railroad workers who could not read would be able to identify the cars so equipped.


Re: Kits/Models For Sale

Spen Kellogg <spenkell@...>
 

Richard Hendrickson wrote:

Sunshine
25.19 Pacific Fruit Express R-30/40-9 class refrigerator car.
25.62 Pacific Fruit Express R-30/40-16 class refrigerator car.
38.2 Southern Pacific B-50-15 class composite single sheathed box car, steel sheathing, radial roof.
38.9 Texas & New Orleans (Southern Pacific) B-50-15 class composite single sheathed box car, wood sheathing, Hutchins roof, Allen door.

Westerfield
5401 Southern Pacific (& T&N#O) S-40-8/9/10 class stock car, original.
Structure Kits
Campbell #781-160 wood cattle loading pens. $3.00
Campbell #360-375 wood pump House. $3.00
Richard,

I am interested in the above kits. Please let me know what is available and the total cost. I live in CT.

Thanks and regards, Spen Kellogg


Re: Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Rich Yoder
 

Unfortunately it still doesn't link.

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM
www.richyodermodels.com

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Joseph Binish
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:42 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Thanks, Rich. See fellas how a good pal can bail you out when you have
FFS(Fat Finger Syndrome), strep and a sprained ankle?
Joe Binish
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD REMIARZ
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????


Let's try that again.


http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr
clubum/gopherrail.htm>

Richard Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
----- Original Message -----
From: RICHARD REMIARZ<mailto:rremiarz@...>
To: STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

This link should work.


http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rr
clubum/gopherrail.htm<http://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm%3Ch
ttp://www.tc.umn.edu/~rrclubum/gopherrail.htm>>

Richard Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Yoder<mailto:oscale48@...<mailto:oscale48@...>>
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

The link doesn't work.

Sincerely, Rich Yoder
7 Edgedale Court
Wyomissing PA 19610-1913
610-678-2834 after 6:00PM est until 10:00PM

www.richyodermodels.com<http://www.richyodermodels.com/<http://www.richy
odermodels.com%3chttp//www.richyodermodels.com/>>

-----Original Message-----
From:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>> [mailto:STMFC@...]
On Behalf Of
Joseph Binish
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:37 AM
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Dave,
Gopher Rail has taken over Greg Smith's RPM. It will be held @ 1701
University on Feb 24. Check out
www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/<http://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/<http://www.tc
.umn.due/~rrclubum/%3Chttp://www.tc.umn.due/~rrclubum/>>
Joe Binish

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Powell
To:
STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC@yahoogro
ups.com%3Cmailto:STMFC@...>>
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:39 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Minnesota RPM Meet ??????????????

Hi,
Is there an RPM meet in the Twin Cities area at all? I live in
Northern Iowa and was told there is one but I can't find out anymore
info than what I have. I was hoping for a one day event. Dave
Powell Iowa



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Re: Kits/Models For Sale

Gary E. Ray <garyeray@...>
 

Hi Richard,

I will take the following if not already sold.

Thanks,

Gary Ray



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:01 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Kits/Models For Sale



LIST OF HO SCALE MODELS FOR SALE

Richard Hendrickson
444 Monte Vista Drive
Ashland, OR 97520
(541) 482-6046
rhendrickson@ <mailto:rhendrickson%40opendoor.com> opendoor.com

10% discount on five models or more.

Note: prices do not include packing and shipping. To US addresses add
$4.00 shipping for one to five models, $50¢ more for each additional
model up to 9, $7.00 shipping for ten or more models.




Life-Like Proto 2000 - RTR $6.00 ea., Kits $5.00 ea.

30676 Kit 8,000 gal. AC&F Type 21 tank car, General American, GATX
15402, black.

30905 RTR 40' Mather composite box car, Muncie & Western "Ball Line,"
MWR 1225, yellow.
30906 RTR 40' Mather composite box car, Muncie & Western "Ball Line,"
MWR 1264, yellow.
30907 RTR 40' Mather composite box car, Ford Dodge, Des Moines &
Southern, FDDM&S 14003, mineral red.
30908 RTR 40' Mather composite box car, Ford Dodge, Des Moines &
Southern, FDDM&S 14008, mineral red.
30910 RTR 40' Mather composite box car, Tennessee Central, TC 7835,
mineral red.





Freight Car Models - Resin Kits - $10.00 each

Sunshine
7.1 Mather 40' composite box car, Chicago & Illinois Midland.
7.2 Mather 40' composite box car, Illinois Northern.
7.4 Mather 40' composite box car, Chicago & Eastern Illinois.
25.19 Pacific Fruit Express R-30/40-9 class refrigerator car.
25.62 Pacific Fruit Express R-30/40-16 class refrigerator car.


Westerfield
1104 Union Pacific A-50-4 class single sheathed steel auto car, no
decals.
1251 Pennsylvania G22 class gondola, as built.

3303 Chesapeake & Ohio USRA single-sheathed composite box car
3601 Santa Fe Bx-3 class sectional-sheathed composite box car, original.

5401 Southern Pacific (& T&N#O) S-40-8/9/10 class stock car, original.


Des Plaines
Des Plaines Car & Foundry (ex-Dennis Storzek) Canadian National 40'
single sheathed box car.

Structure Kits
Campbell #781-160 wood cattle loading pens. $3.00
Campbell #360-375 wood pump House. $3.00
Campbell #301-175 wood pile trestle, ballasted deck. $3.00
Williams Bros. #501 bulk oil storage tank kit, three tanks with bases
plus walkway, ladder, loading platform and accessories. $4.00
SS Ltd./Walthers K-101 (second edition) gas station kit, wood/sheet
metal/die cast metal. $5.00
IHC #3503 molded styrene factory with loading silos. $4.00
Model Power #455 molded styrene Burlington Mills factory. $4.00







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Re: The DS/SS split - More Unknowns

laramielarry <ostresh@...>
 

Hi Folks

Since I posted a new list of Unknowns yesterday, many have been
solved or I have offers to solve them. These are the ones that remain
Unknown:

GA, XM, Box, 17000-17099, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 97
WofA, XM, Box, 17000-17147, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 120
A&WP, XM, Box, 37000-37133, 40'6", 6'0", 100000, 102
C&EI, XAR, Auto, 3100-3139, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 38
CMO, XM, Box, 19400-19998, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 130
DM&IR, XM, Box, 3100-3149, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 43
DT&I, XAP, Box, 27000-27999, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 30
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 47009-47948, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 51
DT&I, XAP, Auto, 57007-57976, 40'6", 7'0", 80000, 111
GM&O, XM, Box, 30000-30024, 40'6", 12'7", 100000, 25
IN, XM, Box, 1400-1499, 40'0", 10'0", 80000, 43
IN, XM, Box, 1500-1599, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 46
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46000-46199, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 34
L&N, XMR, Auto, 46300-46399, 40'6", 12'0", 100000, 99
MILW, XAP, Auto, 510100-510289, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 150
MILW, XAP, Auto, 272500-272524, 50'6", 6'0", 100000, 25
NLC, XM, Box, 115-141, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 27
MP, XM, Box, 44000-44410, 40'4", 6'0", 80000, 408
MP, XM, Box, 45251-45494, 40'3", 6'0", 80000, 239
MP, XAR, Auto, 75280-75479, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 200
MP, XM, Box, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 124
MP, XAR, Auto, 75480-75999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 338
MP, XAR, Auto, 76150-76999, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 308
MP, XM, Box, 79000-79199, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 192
MP, XM, Box, 84000-84099, 40'6", 12'1", 80000, 87
NOT&M, XM, Box, 20001-20050, 40'0", 6'0", 80000, 43
NJI&I, XM, Box, 2000-2149, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 136
NJI&I, XM, Box, 3000-3199, 40'6", 10'0", 80000, 29
NJI&I, XM, Box, 78000-78199, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 165
SLSF, XM, Box, 151000-151099, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 151100-151199, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 98
SLSF, XM, Box, 151200-151284, 40'6", 12'6", 100000, 84
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 10'0", 100000, 112
SLSF, XM, Box, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 48
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 151285-151499, 40'6", 13'0", 100000, 49
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152000-152099, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 97
SLSF, XME, Box, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 74
SLSF, XMR, Auto, 152100-152228, 40'6", 12'6", 80000, 45
SOUTHERN, XM, Box, 409000-409999, 36'0", 6'0", 80000, 153
T&P, XM, Box, 30000-30316, 40'6", 6'0", 80000, 312
T&P, XAR, Auto, 61000-61099, 40'6", 12'0", 80000, 71
T&P, XAR, Auto, 72000-72024, 50'6", 15'0", 100000, 25
UP, XM, Box, 75000-75397, 40'5", 6'1", 100000, 42

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


Re: DL&W

Thomas M. Olsen <tmolsen@...>
 

Thanks Jace,

I mentioned that to my buddy, but he just wanted a stand-in for one of the DL&W 0-8-0's: said that it was close! My reply was "O-K-A-Y!" Surprising since this person is a stickler for doing it right!

Now if I could only find an engine that could be re-worked to be a Huntingdon & Broad Top Mountain 2-8-0 #37 which was a standard off-the- shelf Baldwin.

Regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...


Justin Kahn wrote:

Um, Tom, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I am pretty sure the DL&W
didn't have any USRA 0-8-0's; their only 0-8-0's, as I recall, were the
homebuilts from 4-6-2's to keep the shop crews employed during the
Depressions. Now the ERIE had USRA-type 0-8-0's...
Sorry to have to deal with the head end of a freight train rather than the
contents.
Jace Kahn, General Manager
Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.

> >
> > I have a buddy that just purchased a Proto-2000 USRA 0-8-0
> > switcher that
> > apparently is a match for the 0-8-0's that the Lackawanna used. He is
> > asking if anyone knows who makes accurate DL&W decals for steam
> > locomotives. He advises that the Champ set lettering for the
> > tender is
> > too large and cannot be used.
> >
> > If anyone has an idea of what would be correct to use, please advise.
> > Thanking you all in advance!
> >
> > Tom Olsen
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Roofs ????????????????????????

Dave Powell <daveydiesel@...>
 

Hi,
I see alot of articles on trucks, doors, ends, brake rigging but I
would like to see an article on the different roofs that were on
boxcars of our time frame. Does such an article exist that I have
missed some where? Dave Powell Iowa

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