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Re: Prototype verification, or not

Matt Herson
 

Russ,

My research up till now indicates the "Main Street of the Northwest" was added around 1947. Would you be able to point me to photos showing the "Main Street of the Northwest" applied before 1947?

Thanks,

Matt Herson

----- Original Message -----
From: Russ Strodtz
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


Matt,

Based on photographs of each series I agree. Wood running
boards up to the 17999. Monad is centered. Another change
starting with the 18000 series is now has "Main Street of
the Northwest" under the Monad.

Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Herson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 19:39
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not

Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be
15000-17999. Some cars were renumbered but that happened after
the cut off date for this list. The paint scheme is a
representation of an as built car (1940-1) and I have seen a photo
taken in the early 1950s of a car still in this scheme. However
the Monad on the right side of the car should be centered on the
middle side panel between the door and car end. On the model the
Monad is too close to the door. The cars had wood running boards
until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the photo but the car
should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson


Re: sandblasting cabinet

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Does it have a port for the chop vac? Doug Gardner<
No ports for chop vacs <VBG> but if you look at the picture on the right side near the back is the vent. It has a filter on it and that can stay or be removed. I believe I had to modify the hose connection somewhat. Place to get flexible vac hoses is any thrift store, usually 50 cents or a dollar.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

----- Original Message -----
From: "radius158" <gard158@hotmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 11:10 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: sandblasting cabinet


Does it have a port for the chop vac? Doug Gardner

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:



Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet
from harbor freight??? How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy
weight for blasting styrene and resin?<
I use that exact cabinet. I don't blast resin or styrene but use it
for HO brass and it works fine. I use the grit that HF sells.
When first used I found it produced to much residue in the air so I
connected a cheap shop vac to it to direct everything outside. If you don't
do that it doesn't take long for you not to be able to see your work and
takes even longer for everything to settle down.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS




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Re: Prototype verification, or not

Tim O'Connor
 

OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for educating me!
Todd K. Stearns


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Todd K. Stearns wrote:
OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for educating me!
It's that squiggly yin-and-yang thing, like two commas, in the NP emblem <g>.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Prototype verification, or not

toddsyr <toddsyr@...>
 

OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for educating me!

Todd K. Stearns

----- Original Message -----
From: Russ Strodtz
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


Matt,

Based on photographs of each series I agree. Wood running
boards up to the 17999. Monad is centered. Another change
starting with the 18000 series is now has "Main Street of
the Northwest" under the Monad.

Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Herson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 19:39
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not

Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be
15000-17999. Some cars were renumbered but that happened after
the cut off date for this list. The paint scheme is a
representation of an as built car (1940-1) and I have seen a photo
taken in the early 1950s of a car still in this scheme. However
the Monad on the right side of the car should be centered on the
middle side panel between the door and car end. On the model the
Monad is too close to the door. The cars had wood running boards
until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the photo but the car
should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson







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RICH NUNN <flyingtigers_nunn@...>
 

Gentlemen:

Does anyone out there have a current phone # for Bob's Photo in Massachusetts? He is scheduled to attend the neprototype modeler's meet in Collinswood, Ct this coming weekend. Need to have him bring his book of GN photos. He doesn't have e-mail.

Thanks,
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Re: sandblasting cabinet

Tony Thompson
 

Does it have a port for the chop vac?
That must be a great tool for when you're kitbashing. I gotta get one <g>.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: sandblasting cabinet

radius158
 

Does it have a port for the chop vac? Doug Gardner

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:



Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet
from harbor freight??? How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy
weight for blasting styrene and resin?<
I use that exact cabinet. I don't blast resin or styrene but use it
for HO brass and it works fine. I use the grit that HF sells.
When first used I found it produced to much residue in the air so I
connected a cheap shop vac to it to direct everything outside. If you don't
do that it doesn't take long for you not to be able to see your work and
takes even longer for everything to settle down.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: sandblasting cabinet

Don Worthy
 

Doug, I use one of their cabinets but, it has side doors and the view port is at an angle. I use my old shop vac and added a outdoor type light.
I love it. Mine is also used for small car parts, although. I've got a 57 Chevy that I've done trim pieces for.
I've never done a resin car with it but, I've done plastic with great results. I readjust the air presure for what ever the job.
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.

radius158 <gard158@hotmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner






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Re: sandblasting cabinet

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor freight??? How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?<
I use that exact cabinet. I don't blast resin or styrene but use it for HO brass and it works fine. I use the grit that HF sells.
When first used I found it produced to much residue in the air so I connected a cheap shop vac to it to direct everything outside. If you don't do that it doesn't take long for you not to be able to see your work and takes even longer for everything to settle down.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Matt,

Based on photographs of each series I agree. Wood running
boards up to the 17999. Monad is centered. Another change
starting with the 18000 series is now has "Main Street of
the Northwest" under the Monad.

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Herson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 19:39
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be
15000-17999. Some cars were renumbered but that happened after
the cut off date for this list. The paint scheme is a
representation of an as built car (1940-1) and I have seen a photo
taken in the early 1950s of a car still in this scheme. However
the Monad on the right side of the car should be centered on the
middle side panel between the door and car end. On the model the
Monad is too close to the door. The cars had wood running boards
until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the photo but the car
should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson


Re: NP '37 AAR Boxcars

oliver
 

Andy brings up a good point. Wasn't the use of the taller doors due to
the fact that these cars were rebuilt with side sill channel
stiffners? The lower door tracks were flush with this sill and are
very noticable in photos.
cheers
Stefan


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:

Matt Herson brought up some interesting details about the
15000-17999 series of NP 10' IH 40' boxcars.

I notice that almost all of manufactured HO 10' IH AAR boxcars
utilize pre-war Youngstown doors of the 5/6/5 "Short" style. (The
"short" is my preferred way to differentiate the door's 3 section's
jpoint panel- a short is virtually the same as a regular panel, while
the "medium" and "tall" have splice panels readily discernable from
the doors panels).

These NP cars did use pre-war Youngstown 5/6/5 doors, though the
splice panels on these NP doors were of the "tall" spacing variety.
Fortunately we do have a good 6' 5/6/5T EYD, a door Intermountain
supplies with their "Modified" AAR Boxcar (10'6" IH).

Intermountain also has ladder sprues for 8 rung ladders for 10'0 IH
cars, unfortunately you need two sets to get both side AND end
ladders. The sprue does have some extra short ladders which could be
donors for the missing 8th rung for the IM 7 rung end ladders. (The
end ladders are 7 rung because IM tooled these ladders for the GN 12
panel 10'0 IH 12 panel boxcars. GN used a drop grap for the first step
on the car's ends.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA






Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

oliver
 

Thanks, but Ted's excellent decal only has the Silver Meteor slogan.
Been there...Can anyone confirm what slogan Champ HB-8 has?
thanks
Stefan

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, destron@... wrote:


Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in it? I think it does...
it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if it didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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Re: Prototype verification, or not

oliver
 

There was a nice article in MM on modelling/upgrading the IMWX 10'
1937 AAR cars by Dennis Hitt a while back. Also some good pics on
Fallen Flags of 15788 and 17497 in the as delivered scheme showing
Monad placement (as per Matt's post).
cheers
Stefan

If one actually wants to --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Herson"
<mherson@...> wrote:

Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be 15000-17999.
Some cars were renumbered but that happened after the cut off date for
this list. The paint scheme is a representation of an as built car
(1940-1) and I have seen a photo taken in the early 1950s of a car
still in this scheme. However the Monad on the right side of the car
should be centered on the middle side panel between the door and car
end. On the model the Monad is too close to the door. The cars had
wood running boards until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the
photo but the car should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson


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Re: Prototype verification, or not

oliver
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J Carlson" <brian@...> wrote:

Strangely IM has 26000, and 27000 series numbers on their 10'-6"
modified AAR boxcar, I'm confused?
http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/html/45801.htm
Um, its IM! You know...it doesn't have to be prototypical!
cheers
Stefan


sandblasting cabinet

radius158
 

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner


Re: Prototype verification, or not, NP 29500-29999

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Tim,Brian,Others,

Have set up a photo album which will include the "photos
car" in this series. Yes, I realize that the truck and
underframe view are probably not of the exact car that
is identified but I'm operating on the basis that AC&F
used components from the correct series.

I do not know if the Moderator has approved these yet,
I've done as much as I can.

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 May, 2007 00:06
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not



>Tim:
>Where did you get your information?

Brian,

Beats me! :-) No, seriously, from Ed Hawkins RMJ 10/1999 roster
but it's possible I took bad notes. Yes, I should have checked
that 10/89 photo since I knew about that too.

Looking at it now, my notes may pertain mostly to 25000-25499.

In any case if Schuyler is correct and the model is really IRC's
1937 AAR 10'0"IH body, then it's a moot point.

Tim


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Tim O'Connor
 

Tim:
Where did you get your information?
Brian,

Beats me! :-) No, seriously, from Ed Hawkins RMJ 10/1999 roster
but it's possible I took bad notes. Yes, I should have checked
that 10/89 photo since I knew about that too.

Looking at it now, my notes may pertain mostly to 25000-25499.

In any case if Schuyler is correct and the model is really IRC's
1937 AAR 10'0"IH body, then it's a moot point.

Tim

I was going by information in Ed Hawkins
article in RMJ. The handbrake in the photo of 29756 (October 1989 RMJ, or
Page 70 of Freight Car Models Vol II) is definitely a Universal Type 5700 XL
Hand brake with M1704 malleable iron hand wheel (Ref RPC 10 page 46.).
Actually, I can't be certain about the hand brake, but I am sure about the
wheel. The running board does not look like Apex either, and the trucks do
not appear to have the bulbous lower spring support typical of ASF A-3 ride
control truck, they look more like Barber S-2's (RPC 4) but I wasn't sure so
I didn't mention them in my first email


S-40-5 Stock cars

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Does anyone know what scheme the upcoming red caboose S-40-5 stock cars will
be? The part number is RR-39002? The NWP cars are in a post 1952 scheme,
and the T&NO are in a pre 1946 scheme. I'd like to add one or two to the
Stock trains on my layout set in 1957. What was the ratio of SP, T&NO, and
NWP cars in 1957. I know this information is in Tony Thompson's SP book, but
I do not have it.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

Paul Lyons
 

Try Ted Culotta's Speedwitch site. The decals are not for PS-1's, but the slogans should work.



Paul Lyons

Laguna Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: stefanelaine <stefanelaine@yahoo.ca>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 27 May 2007 8:04 pm
Subject: [STMFC] SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?







Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC





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