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Bob's Photo

RICH NUNN <flyingtigers_nunn@...>
 

Gentlemen:

Does anyone out there have a current phone # for Bob's Photo in Massachusetts? He is scheduled to attend the neprototype modeler's meet in Collinswood, Ct this coming weekend. Need to have him bring his book of GN photos. He doesn't have e-mail.

Thanks,
Rich Nunn


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Re: sandblasting cabinet

Tony Thompson
 

Does it have a port for the chop vac?
That must be a great tool for when you're kitbashing. I gotta get one <g>.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: sandblasting cabinet

radius158
 

Does it have a port for the chop vac? Doug Gardner

--- In STMFC@..., "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:



Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet
from harbor freight??? How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy
weight for blasting styrene and resin?<
I use that exact cabinet. I don't blast resin or styrene but use it
for HO brass and it works fine. I use the grit that HF sells.
When first used I found it produced to much residue in the air so I
connected a cheap shop vac to it to direct everything outside. If you don't
do that it doesn't take long for you not to be able to see your work and
takes even longer for everything to settle down.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: sandblasting cabinet

Don Worthy
 

Doug, I use one of their cabinets but, it has side doors and the view port is at an angle. I use my old shop vac and added a outdoor type light.
I love it. Mine is also used for small car parts, although. I've got a 57 Chevy that I've done trim pieces for.
I've never done a resin car with it but, I've done plastic with great results. I readjust the air presure for what ever the job.
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.

radius158 <gard158@...> wrote:
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner






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Re: sandblasting cabinet

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor freight??? How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?<
I use that exact cabinet. I don't blast resin or styrene but use it for HO brass and it works fine. I use the grit that HF sells.
When first used I found it produced to much residue in the air so I connected a cheap shop vac to it to direct everything outside. If you don't do that it doesn't take long for you not to be able to see your work and takes even longer for everything to settle down.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Matt,

Based on photographs of each series I agree. Wood running
boards up to the 17999. Monad is centered. Another change
starting with the 18000 series is now has "Main Street of
the Northwest" under the Monad.

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Herson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 19:39
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be
15000-17999. Some cars were renumbered but that happened after
the cut off date for this list. The paint scheme is a
representation of an as built car (1940-1) and I have seen a photo
taken in the early 1950s of a car still in this scheme. However
the Monad on the right side of the car should be centered on the
middle side panel between the door and car end. On the model the
Monad is too close to the door. The cars had wood running boards
until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the photo but the car
should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson


Re: NP '37 AAR Boxcars

oliver
 

Andy brings up a good point. Wasn't the use of the taller doors due to
the fact that these cars were rebuilt with side sill channel
stiffners? The lower door tracks were flush with this sill and are
very noticable in photos.
cheers
Stefan


--- In STMFC@..., Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:

Matt Herson brought up some interesting details about the
15000-17999 series of NP 10' IH 40' boxcars.

I notice that almost all of manufactured HO 10' IH AAR boxcars
utilize pre-war Youngstown doors of the 5/6/5 "Short" style. (The
"short" is my preferred way to differentiate the door's 3 section's
jpoint panel- a short is virtually the same as a regular panel, while
the "medium" and "tall" have splice panels readily discernable from
the doors panels).

These NP cars did use pre-war Youngstown 5/6/5 doors, though the
splice panels on these NP doors were of the "tall" spacing variety.
Fortunately we do have a good 6' 5/6/5T EYD, a door Intermountain
supplies with their "Modified" AAR Boxcar (10'6" IH).

Intermountain also has ladder sprues for 8 rung ladders for 10'0 IH
cars, unfortunately you need two sets to get both side AND end
ladders. The sprue does have some extra short ladders which could be
donors for the missing 8th rung for the IM 7 rung end ladders. (The
end ladders are 7 rung because IM tooled these ladders for the GN 12
panel 10'0 IH 12 panel boxcars. GN used a drop grap for the first step
on the car's ends.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA






Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

oliver
 

Thanks, but Ted's excellent decal only has the Silver Meteor slogan.
Been there...Can anyone confirm what slogan Champ HB-8 has?
thanks
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., destron@... wrote:


Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in it? I think it does...
it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if it didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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Re: Prototype verification, or not

oliver
 

There was a nice article in MM on modelling/upgrading the IMWX 10'
1937 AAR cars by Dennis Hitt a while back. Also some good pics on
Fallen Flags of 15788 and 17497 in the as delivered scheme showing
Monad placement (as per Matt's post).
cheers
Stefan

If one actually wants to --- In STMFC@..., "Matt Herson"
<mherson@...> wrote:

Schuyler and Group,

For a NP 1937 AAR box car the number series should be 15000-17999.
Some cars were renumbered but that happened after the cut off date for
this list. The paint scheme is a representation of an as built car
(1940-1) and I have seen a photo taken in the early 1950s of a car
still in this scheme. However the Monad on the right side of the car
should be centered on the middle side panel between the door and car
end. On the model the Monad is too close to the door. The cars had
wood running boards until scrapping or removal. Can't tell from the
photo but the car should have 8 rung ladders.

Hope this helps.

Matt Herson


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Re: Prototype verification, or not

oliver
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Brian J Carlson" <brian@...> wrote:

Strangely IM has 26000, and 27000 series numbers on their 10'-6"
modified AAR boxcar, I'm confused?
http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/html/45801.htm
Um, its IM! You know...it doesn't have to be prototypical!
cheers
Stefan


sandblasting cabinet

radius158
 

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner


Re: Prototype verification, or not, NP 29500-29999

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Tim,Brian,Others,

Have set up a photo album which will include the "photos
car" in this series. Yes, I realize that the truck and
underframe view are probably not of the exact car that
is identified but I'm operating on the basis that AC&F
used components from the correct series.

I do not know if the Moderator has approved these yet,
I've done as much as I can.

Russ

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, 28 May, 2007 00:06
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not



>Tim:
>Where did you get your information?

Brian,

Beats me! :-) No, seriously, from Ed Hawkins RMJ 10/1999 roster
but it's possible I took bad notes. Yes, I should have checked
that 10/89 photo since I knew about that too.

Looking at it now, my notes may pertain mostly to 25000-25499.

In any case if Schuyler is correct and the model is really IRC's
1937 AAR 10'0"IH body, then it's a moot point.

Tim


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Tim O'Connor
 

Tim:
Where did you get your information?
Brian,

Beats me! :-) No, seriously, from Ed Hawkins RMJ 10/1999 roster
but it's possible I took bad notes. Yes, I should have checked
that 10/89 photo since I knew about that too.

Looking at it now, my notes may pertain mostly to 25000-25499.

In any case if Schuyler is correct and the model is really IRC's
1937 AAR 10'0"IH body, then it's a moot point.

Tim

I was going by information in Ed Hawkins
article in RMJ. The handbrake in the photo of 29756 (October 1989 RMJ, or
Page 70 of Freight Car Models Vol II) is definitely a Universal Type 5700 XL
Hand brake with M1704 malleable iron hand wheel (Ref RPC 10 page 46.).
Actually, I can't be certain about the hand brake, but I am sure about the
wheel. The running board does not look like Apex either, and the trucks do
not appear to have the bulbous lower spring support typical of ASF A-3 ride
control truck, they look more like Barber S-2's (RPC 4) but I wasn't sure so
I didn't mention them in my first email


S-40-5 Stock cars

Brian J Carlson <brian@...>
 

Does anyone know what scheme the upcoming red caboose S-40-5 stock cars will
be? The part number is RR-39002? The NWP cars are in a post 1952 scheme,
and the T&NO are in a pre 1946 scheme. I'd like to add one or two to the
Stock trains on my layout set in 1957. What was the ratio of SP, T&NO, and
NWP cars in 1957. I know this information is in Tony Thompson's SP book, but
I do not have it.

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

Paul Lyons
 

Try Ted Culotta's Speedwitch site. The decals are not for PS-1's, but the slogans should work.



Paul Lyons

Laguna Niguel, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: stefanelaine <stefanelaine@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sun, 27 May 2007 8:04 pm
Subject: [STMFC] SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?







Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC





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Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

destron@...
 

Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in it? I think it does... it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if it didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

oliver
 

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the "Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999 and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC


NP '37 AAR Boxcars

Andy Carlson
 

Matt Herson brought up some interesting details about the 15000-17999 series of NP 10' IH 40' boxcars.

I notice that almost all of manufactured HO 10' IH AAR boxcars utilize pre-war Youngstown doors of the 5/6/5 "Short" style. (The "short" is my preferred way to differentiate the door's 3 section's jpoint panel- a short is virtually the same as a regular panel, while the "medium" and "tall" have splice panels readily discernable from the doors panels).

These NP cars did use pre-war Youngstown 5/6/5 doors, though the splice panels on these NP doors were of the "tall" spacing variety. Fortunately we do have a good 6' 5/6/5T EYD, a door Intermountain supplies with their "Modified" AAR Boxcar (10'6" IH).

Intermountain also has ladder sprues for 8 rung ladders for 10'0 IH cars, unfortunately you need two sets to get both side AND end ladders. The sprue does have some extra short ladders which could be donors for the missing 8th rung for the IM 7 rung end ladders. (The end ladders are 7 rung because IM tooled these ladders for the GN 12 panel 10'0 IH 12 panel boxcars. GN used a drop grap for the first step on the car's ends.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


: Greater New York Area Cane Sugar Refining

cripete <pjboylanboylan@...>
 

Matt:
Your right. Domino's plant was not served by railcars, but its
predecessor 19th and early 20th century ops were.

The large National Sugar operations (Jack Frost brand)
across the Hudson in Edgewater, was
extensively served by rail throughout the period covered
by this group. Both of these finished sugar for the most
part in the post 1950s. Along with the Flow Sweet plant
on the Hudson near/in Habirshaw, they originally only
received bundled cane from Caribbean points. Cuba was
the largest supplier prior to the 1960s, but Brazil took
up the slack with partially processed cane sugar.

Domino (Brooklyn) produced the greatest variety of
packaged cane goods of any plant in North America. They
were sole source of some "ethnic" products.

The Flow Sweet operation produced supersaturated sucrose
syrup, as well as regular cane syrups for the producers
of soft drinks of all kinds, as well as for packers
of various type of fruit products.
The local NYC switcher was referred to as the "Sugar House
Run", into the 1970s. This switcher among other places,also
served Chevy's Tarrytown Plant, although the latter also
received other service. FLOW SWEET (Flo-Sweet Brand?),
distributed its products in 1930s-60s in straight heavy
duty tank trucks (principally AUTOCARS) that had stainless
tanks and dark blue paintwork. The product was dense and
required both insulated tanks and heaters. These trucks
ranged widely into the Mid-Atlantic and New England States.

At the ToC there had been other specialized cane sugar
processors all benefitting from the deepwater access
provided by the Port of New York.
Of interest, to the operations oriented mavens,
the "Sugar House Run" was in charge of a kleptomanic boss,
that was caught stealing batteries from Chevy in the 1960s.

He kept his job, thanks to the Brotherhood , and Chevrolets
good graces. He was put on probation and because he had
kept the several hundred batteries stolen in his basement
(proving he was psychologically disturbed), served no time.
Chevy settled for return of all batteries, a five
thousand dollar payment for damages and forbade his
presence on their property. This made for some interest-
ing moments, and since there was a local agreement made
concerning him, he got to stand in a crappy phone box
location on some foul nights. I'll bet that even within
the esoteric conditions bruited about by so many
operating afficionadoes, nobody has the case of the
crooked conductor as part of the train operating format.
Good-Luck, Peter Boylan

--- In STMFC@..., "Matt Herson" <mherson@...> wrote:
...........
I'm pretty sure the Domino refinery in the NY Times article was not
served by rail. I've seen Jack Frost 3 bay PS-2's in the BEDT
(Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal) yard several blocks north. While
the sightings were in the early 1960s the BEDT was still steam powered
and switching steam era freight cars. All BEDT traffic was by car
float, no direct rail connection.

Matt Herson


C&EI Express Box Cars 1-5

Andy Cich <ajc5150@...>
 

The C&EI purchased the subject cars in 1945, so by the timeframe of my 1953
layout they would have been reweighed a couple of times.

Does anyone have any in-service photos that can tell me how the C&EI did the
reweighing. Did they paint out the old weights and dates with orange paint
and re-use blue lettering, or did they just use C&EI freight car red and
white lettering?

Any help is appreciated.

Andy Cich

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