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Re: sandblasting cabinet

Douglas Harding <dharding@...>
 

Here is a website showing how someone built their own:
http://www.letterhead.com/steps/hines/

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org

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Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

destron@...
 

You may try Ebay and some of the forums out there, I
have heard of Seaboard-Atlantic Coast Line groups and
forums, but can't find the links right now.
Might try ACL-SAL-SCLmodeler@..., it's off and on, but helpful
people on the subject.

Frank Valoczy


Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

 

Stefan,
Unfortunately I have no sets to part with right now. I
went on a splurge many years ago finding single Champ
Sets that were being discontinued. I managed to just
get 1 of each of the ones in question.

You may try Ebay and some of the forums out there, I
have heard of Seaboard-Atlantic Coast Line groups and
forums, but can't find the links right now.

Rich
--- stefanelaine <stefanelaine@...> wrote:

Rich,
Thanks very much for that! It looks like I'll have
to keep an eye out
for HB-31. Anyone want to part with one or two sets?
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., Rich C <rhcdmc@...>
wrote:

Stefan,

Here is the list of the heralds in the Champ Sets,
some are still available on their website:

HB-7 Route Of The Robert E. Lee
HB-8 The Route Of Courteous Service
HB-13 Route Of The Silver Meteor
HB-31 Silver Comet

http://www.minot.com/~champ/

I know Walthers made several sets, but I don't
have
that info handy at the moment.

Rich Christie
--- stefanelaine <stefanelaine@...> wrote:

Thanks, but Ted's excellent decal only has the
Silver Meteor slogan.
Been there...Can anyone confirm what slogan
Champ
HB-8 has?
thanks
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., destron@ wrote:


Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in
it? I
think it does...
it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if
it
didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with
the
"Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499,
24800-999
and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone
makes
the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two
at
the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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Re: Brake wheel question

destron@...
 

In the 1920s several railway appliance manufacturers offered mechanisms
for multiplying the power applied by the brake chain that wound around
the bottom of the vertical staff, thus providing additional braking
power. The two whose names ended with "...co" were Gemco and Ureco
(Union Railway Equipment Co.). I'd vote for Ureco.
Looked at it again, it's certainly not Ureco; the "co" bit was a guess;
the initial "Sh" I'm almost 100% on... looking again, hmm. Was there
anything like Shearer or Sheaver?

Frank Valoczy


Re: sandblasting cabinet

Charlie Ake <icrr2@...>
 

Save your self $90 bucks and make your own. Use a clear (or almost clear) plastic storage tub. Two 4 inch screw together PVC pipe sections, I think they are for some sort of clean out- total length of the pair is about 6 inches. Playtex rubber gloves , the long ones - in your size and a piece of clear plexiglass about 2 inches bigger than the raised portion of the storage tub. Cut two holes in the long side of the tub about half way between the bottom and the top and about shoulder with ( yours) apart. These holes are for the PVC pipe parts. One half inside and the outer outside and screw together thru the bin side. . stretch the rubber glove over the pipe and secure with a zip tie (oh ya forgot about that, you will need two zip ties)
Take the lid for the bin and cut out the raised portion of the top and place the plexiglass over the opening and run duct tape around the edge to seal the plexi to the top. Makes it easier later to remove and replace the plexi if it gets too scared up. I just drape the air line in under the top and blast away. Outside is better for the light but you can play around with different lights as you see fit. Charlie A.

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From: "radius158" <gard158@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: [STMFC] sandblasting cabinet


Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner




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Re: Brake wheel question

Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 28, 2007, at 3:01 PM, destron@... wrote:


In the Winter '05 issue of the AC&Y HS "News" there is a reprint of
the
report to the ICC covering the sale of the P&N's 24000-series boxcars
to
the AC&Y; this has detailed information on the car, including the
brakes.
However, I can't quite make out the handwriting there - perhaps
someone
would know what it says? What I'd like to know is the brake wheel
type.
The text reads (I've put quotes around the words I can't quite make
out):

Brake mast and racket -
Make: AAR 1 1/4"
Type: "Shearco (Sheavco?)" wheel and chain for additional "b....g"
power
Photos show these cars with vertical staff hand brakes, which were
required by AAR rules to have a staff diameter of 1-1/4", so that's
obviously what the first line refers to.

In the 1920s several railway appliance manufacturers offered mechanisms
for multiplying the power applied by the brake chain that wound around
the bottom of the vertical staff, thus providing additional braking
power. The two whose names ended with "...co" were Gemco and Ureco
(Union Railway Equipment Co.). I'd vote for Ureco.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: NP monad symbol, (was: Prototype verification, or not)

Eugene Deimling <losgatos48@...>
 

Dean

The earliest picture I have of a Monad on a NP car is May, 1928 shot in
Everett. I have uploaded the pictures to the photos section. The 5000
series 50' cars were built in 1926 with a small Monad on the door.

Since I am moderated it will take a bit to be blessed before you can view
the photos.

Gene Deimling

Los Gatos, CA



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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Dean
Payne
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:58 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: NP monad symbol, (was: Prototype verification, or not)



This might help a little (?) better: Wikipedia defines it like this:
"Monad is an English term meaning "one," "single," or "unit,"
especially in technical contexts."

http://en.wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad> .org/wiki/Monad

So the monad symbol is a symbol of oneness, I guess.
Why use it on the NP? From http://www.moclips.
<http://www.moclips.org/news/issue1-3.php> org/news/issue1-3.php

"E.H. McHenry, chief engineer of the Northern Pacific, saw the design
on the Korean flag at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. The Northern
Pacific was searching for a trademark and McHenry realized this was
it. After returning to St. Paul he and Charles Fee, general passenger
aent for the NP, worked out the final design."
Richard Hendrickson told me that the earliest use he can document of
the small monad heralds dates from 1940.

Dean Payne

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> com, Tim O'Connor
<timboconnor@...> wrote:


This might help... or not. :-)

http://www.triz-
<http://www.triz-journal.com/archives/2002/06/d/index.htm>
journal.com/archives/2002/06/d/index.htm


OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for
educating me!
Todd K. Stearns


Re: NP monad symbol, (was: Prototype verification, or not)

Dean Payne <deanpayne@...>
 

This might help a little (?) better: Wikipedia defines it like this:
"Monad is an English term meaning "one," "single," or "unit,"
especially in technical contexts."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad

So the monad symbol is a symbol of oneness, I guess.
Why use it on the NP? From http://www.moclips.org/news/issue1-3.php

"E.H. McHenry, chief engineer of the Northern Pacific, saw the design
on the Korean flag at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. The Northern
Pacific was searching for a trademark and McHenry realized this was
it. After returning to St. Paul he and Charles Fee, general passenger
aent for the NP, worked out the final design."
Richard Hendrickson told me that the earliest use he can document of
the small monad heralds dates from 1940.

Dean Payne

--- In STMFC@..., Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


This might help... or not. :-)

http://www.triz-journal.com/archives/2002/06/d/index.htm


OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for
educating me!
Todd K. Stearns


Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

oliver
 

Rich,
Thanks very much for that! It looks like I'll have to keep an eye out
for HB-31. Anyone want to part with one or two sets?
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:

Stefan,

Here is the list of the heralds in the Champ Sets,
some are still available on their website:

HB-7 Route Of The Robert E. Lee
HB-8 The Route Of Courteous Service
HB-13 Route Of The Silver Meteor
HB-31 Silver Comet

http://www.minot.com/~champ/

I know Walthers made several sets, but I don't have
that info handy at the moment.

Rich Christie
--- stefanelaine <stefanelaine@...> wrote:

Thanks, but Ted's excellent decal only has the
Silver Meteor slogan.
Been there...Can anyone confirm what slogan Champ
HB-8 has?
thanks
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., destron@ wrote:


Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in it? I
think it does...
it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if it
didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the
"Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999
and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes
the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at
the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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CSRM Philip R. Hastings photo ID question

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who, both on and off line, have given me tips about
accessing the Hastings photo collection at CSRM. I'm looking forward to
this expedient till I can get there in person some day!



Rob Kirkham


Re: CSRM Philip R. Hastings photo ID question

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Now that is a very good idea - I think I can sell that around home here.

But I need the photo much sooner than that!

Regards

Rob

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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CSRM Philip R. Hastings photo ID question


Rob Kirkham wrote:
Thanks for that info Tim - I'll follow up with them. Sacramento is a 15
hours drive from here, and I'm not sure when I'll be able to check out the
collection in person.

Rob Kirkham
So how about some long term planning.
The NMRA National is in Sacramento in 2011.

Bill Dixon



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Re: SAL "Silver Comet" or "Silver Star "decals?

 

Stefan,

Here is the list of the heralds in the Champ Sets,
some are still available on their website:

HB-7 Route Of The Robert E. Lee
HB-8 The Route Of Courteous Service
HB-13 Route Of The Silver Meteor
HB-31 Silver Comet

http://www.minot.com/~champ/

I know Walthers made several sets, but I don't have
that info handy at the moment.

Rich Christie
--- stefanelaine <stefanelaine@...> wrote:

Thanks, but Ted's excellent decal only has the
Silver Meteor slogan.
Been there...Can anyone confirm what slogan Champ
HB-8 has?
thanks
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., destron@... wrote:


Doesn't the Speedwitch SAL set have these in it? I
think it does...
it has
the Robert E Lee slogan, I'd be surprised if it
didn't have these.

Frank Valoczy,
New Westminster, BC

Looking for HO Seaboard Air Line decals with the
"Silver Comet" or
"Silver Star" slogan for 24300-499, 24800-999
and 25300-499 PS-1
boxcar series built from 1948-52. Everyone makes
the "Meteor" slogan
for other cars, but I can't find these two at
the usual suspects. Any
ideas?
Thanks in advance
Stefan Lerche'
Duncan, BC




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Re: Prototype verification, or not

Matt Herson
 

Richard,

Thank you very much for pin pointing the date of the first use of "Main Street of the Northwest" slogan.

Actually I misread the comment Russ made and the comment was not inconsistent with the 1947 date. Sorry for the confusion.

Matt Herson

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hendrickson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


On May 28, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Matt Herson wrote:

> My research up till now indicates the "Main Street of the Northwest"
> was added around 1947. Would you be able to point me to photos showing
> the "Main Street of the Northwest" applied before 1947?

Matt, the first use of the "main Street" slogans was 9-47.
Photographic evidence shows that the lowest numbered 91000-91249 series
refrigerator cars were delivered by Pacific Car & Foundry without the
"Main Street" slogans but that the slogans were added on higher
numbered cars in the series that were delivered towards the end of
September in that year.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 28, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Matt Herson wrote:

My research up till now indicates the "Main Street of the Northwest"
was added around 1947. Would you be able to point me to photos showing
the "Main Street of the Northwest" applied before 1947?
Matt, the first use of the "main Street" slogans was 9-47.
Photographic evidence shows that the lowest numbered 91000-91249 series
refrigerator cars were delivered by Pacific Car & Foundry without the
"Main Street" slogans but that the slogans were added on higher
numbered cars in the series that were delivered towards the end of
September in that year.

Richard Hendrickson


Brake wheel question

destron@...
 

In the Winter '05 issue of the AC&Y HS "News" there is a reprint of the
report to the ICC covering the sale of the P&N's 24000-series boxcars to
the AC&Y; this has detailed information on the car, including the brakes.
However, I can't quite make out the handwriting there - perhaps someone
would know what it says? What I'd like to know is the brake wheel type.
The text reads (I've put quotes around the words I can't quite make out):

Brake mast and racket -
Make: AAR 1 1/4"
Type: "Shearco (Sheavco?)" wheel and chain for additional "b....g" power

Frank Valoczy


Re: Bob's Photo

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Ky. No. 606 780 9905

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On
Behalf Of Richard Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:32 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bob's Photo

On May 28, 2007, at 11:36 AM, RICH NUNN wrote:

Gentlemen:

Does anyone out there have a current phone # for Bob's Photo in
Massachusetts? He is scheduled to attend the neprototype modeler's
meet in Collinswood, Ct this coming weekend. Need to have him bring
his book of GN photos. He doesn't have e-mail.
Rich, Bob has moved to Kentucky. I only have a mailing address: P. O.
Box 209, Farmers, KY 40319.

Richard Hendrickson







Re: sandblasting cabinet

Tim O'Connor
 

The larger gun will simply deliver more grit -- makes the work
go faster. Only use the small nozzle for more precise work. The
air pressure and type of grit are the main factors, not the volume
of air or grit.

10W of light isn't enough IMO.

Tim O'

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this small blast cabinet from harbor
freight???

How bout the gun itself....maybe too heavy weight for blasting styrene and resin?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94978

Thanks- Doug Gardner


Re: Prototype verification, or not

Tim O'Connor
 

Great photos, thanks Russ. The brakewheel is not only Universal,
but is clearly marked XL as well. Universal changed styles over
the years so one needs to know which one to use...

Tim O

At 5/28/2007 10:57 AM Monday, you wrote:
Matt,

Based on photographs of each series I agree. Wood running
boards up to the 17999. Monad is centered. Another change
starting with the 18000 series is now has "Main Street of
the Northwest" under the Monad.

Russ


Re: NP '37 AAR Boxcars

Matt Herson
 

Stefan,

While most of the NP cars were rebuilt with a channel side sill the doors on the unrebuilt cars were also tall. The bottom door track was mounted on the bottom of the reinforcement plate under the doors while on the model the bottom door track is mounted above this reinforcement plate. This can be seen clearly in photos.

As Andy mentioned using an Intermountain door from the 10'-6" IH car will give the proper door although the bottom track on the model must be removed and replaced to match the taller door. The same is true of the Red Caboose 1937 AAR car used for NP.

Matt Herson

----- Original Message -----
From: stefanelaine
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:30 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: NP '37 AAR Boxcars


Andy brings up a good point. Wasn't the use of the taller doors due to
the fact that these cars were rebuilt with side sill channel
stiffners? The lower door tracks were flush with this sill and are
very noticable in photos.
cheers
Stefan

--- In STMFC@..., Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:
>
> Matt Herson brought up some interesting details about the
15000-17999 series of NP 10' IH 40' boxcars.
>
> I notice that almost all of manufactured HO 10' IH AAR boxcars
utilize pre-war Youngstown doors of the 5/6/5 "Short" style. (The
"short" is my preferred way to differentiate the door's 3 section's
jpoint panel- a short is virtually the same as a regular panel, while
the "medium" and "tall" have splice panels readily discernable from
the doors panels).
>
> These NP cars did use pre-war Youngstown 5/6/5 doors, though the
splice panels on these NP doors were of the "tall" spacing variety.
Fortunately we do have a good 6' 5/6/5T EYD, a door Intermountain
supplies with their "Modified" AAR Boxcar (10'6" IH).
>
> Intermountain also has ladder sprues for 8 rung ladders for 10'0 IH
cars, unfortunately you need two sets to get both side AND end
ladders. The sprue does have some extra short ladders which could be
donors for the missing 8th rung for the IM 7 rung end ladders. (The
end ladders are 7 rung because IM tooled these ladders for the GN 12
panel 10'0 IH 12 panel boxcars. GN used a drop grap for the first step
on the car's ends.
> -Andy Carlson
> Ojai CA
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Prototype verification, or not

toddsyr <toddsyr@...>
 

Gotcha, thanks guys. Anyone in the West end of Syracuse would have replied it's just like the Marble Farms emblem! Of course I didn't know that until now.

Todd K. Stearns

----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Thompson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Prototype verification, or not


Todd K. Stearns wrote:
> OK, I finally have to ask. What's a monad? Thanks in advance for
> educating me!

It's that squiggly yin-and-yang thing, like two commas, in the NP
emblem <g>.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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