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Re: Portland, OR area hobby shops

Richard Townsend
 

Whistle Stop, on Division (just east of I-205), is pretty good. Their Steam Era Freight Car kit selection is fairly small, but they do have the usual selection of RTR and simpler kits.

Tammies, in Beaverton (east of Portland out OR 26), is sort of like Grand-dad's (which I imagine is your LHS) on steroids.  They have trains, RC, military, etc., but their STFC selection can be better than Whistle Stop.  As can their prices, in my experience. 

A little farther out is Mainline Trains, in Forest Grove.  It's a small shop but usually has an interesting selection of kits, RTR, and used items.  IMHO it is worth the drive out there.


Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: lnbill <bwelch@uucf.org>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 8:09 am
Subject: [STMFC] Portland, OR area hobby shops






I will be in Portland, OR the week of June 18. Are there any "not to be
missed" hobby shops in that area?

I know about about the Used Technical Bookstore.

Bill Welch





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Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

rfederle@...
 

I knew someone did the car but couldn't remember who. Thanks Ben and thanks for the link.

Robert
---- benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Robert Federle wrote:
"I believe the 30 tube car had been produced years ago by Bachmann
(I think)."

No. The styrene model was produced by AHM/Roco:
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/ahmhoscaletrainscollectorsresource/id3.html


Ben Hom


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

rfederle@...
 

I may have missed that post but when "helium service ended" is mentioned, what service was that referenced too, if anyone recalls?

Aboard the Dive support vessel I serve on Helium is used. Service ending may have refered to Navy use and the way it was transported. Those cars at NASA, if not in interchange, may be used in captive service on the facility.

Robert Federle
---- Anthony Thompson <thompson@signaturepress.com> wrote:

Although it somewhat (!) exceeds the parameters of this list,
it was mentioned the other day that helium service ended in 1998. There
were two or three of the 30-tube cars at NASA Cape Canaveral two years
ago, and they didn't look like storage cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

emrldsky <emrldsky@...>
 

I wish I could attend the presentation at the Society's meeting in
OKC. I have 3 of HO Helium cars in plastic from several years ago.
They were complete fantasy as far as I can tell, at least as far as
the road names go and their colors. The plastic was colored red, blue,
and I forget the other, but it was not silver!! I looked into decals
for the helium cars and found someone that could make me a set, but
the price was about $50.00 a set. It was probably a reasonable price
for a one-off, but that and other priorities prevented me from kit
bashing those cars into at least the correct colors and markings. It
still remains on my list of things to do...


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Although it somewhat (!) exceeds the parameters of this list, it was mentioned the other day that helium service ended in 1998. There were two or three of the 30-tube cars at NASA Cape Canaveral two years ago, and they didn't look like storage cars.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Robert Federle wrote:
"I believe the 30 tube car had been produced years ago by Bachmann
(I think)."

No. The styrene model was produced by AHM/Roco:
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/ahmhoscaletrainscollectorsresource/id3.html


Ben Hom


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

rfederle@...
 

A kit for these cars will fill a void. I believe the 30 tube car had been produced years ago by Bachmann (I think). If memory serves correct I believe there were a couple of the 30 tube cars at an Air Products plant near Middletown Ohio back in the early to mid 70's (again, I think).

I too would like to be notified, perhaps on the STMFC Group the status of the kits and availability when the time comes. Good luck.

Robert Federle
---- Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote:


For those of us who can't go to OKC, I hope this information
will be published by SFH&MS or RPCYC....

Tim O'Connor


Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jay H. Miller" <jay@kk5im.com>
Date: June 8, 2007 7:50:13 AM PDT
To: rhendrickson@opendoor.com
Subject: Helium Car Kits and Decals

Please post to the freight car list for me:

****************
While on assignment last week my mailbox overflowed with requests for
information about possible decals for helium tanks cars.

I have completed several years of intensive research into the helium
car/plant/operations subject and will present my findings at the Santa
Fe Historical and Modeling Society in Oklahoma City June 21-24. After
that, it is my intention to actively promote the information I have
collected to someone who will produce kits of the 30-tube cars and
possibly a brass model of the original 3-tube cars. While I do not
have a 100% commitment from a maker, I do have some potential interest
and it "looks good." There are a number of engineering issues that
will require considerable thought before the pattern making process
begins.

The drawings, photographs and specifications for all eight generations
of helium tank cars have been cataloged/scanned/etc. Artwork is
underway for a decal sheet which will letter the new kits and anything
else available from 1926-1962 built dates and forward until the end of
helium car operations ca. 1998.

The decals would go with the new kits but would also be available
separately.

I've asked Richard to repost this to your list so everyone can get the
information. Thanks for your interest and support.
Jay Miller
Richard Hendrickson


Re: Portland, OR area hobby shops

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

I will be in Portland, OR the week of June 18. Are there any "not to be
missed" hobby shops in that area?
The "Whistle Stop" is a nice shop, not too large, but with a good selection. It's out to the east of downtown.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Portland, OR area hobby shops

lnbill <bwelch@...>
 

I will be in Portland, OR the week of June 18. Are there any "not to be
missed" hobby shops in that area?

I know about about the Used Technical Bookstore.

Bill Welch


Re: Helium Car Kits and Decals

Tim O'Connor
 

For those of us who can't go to OKC, I hope this information
will be published by SFH&MS or RPCYC....

Tim O'Connor

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jay H. Miller" <jay@kk5im.com>
Date: June 8, 2007 7:50:13 AM PDT
To: rhendrickson@opendoor.com
Subject: Helium Car Kits and Decals

Please post to the freight car list for me:

****************
While on assignment last week my mailbox overflowed with requests for
information about possible decals for helium tanks cars.

I have completed several years of intensive research into the helium
car/plant/operations subject and will present my findings at the Santa
Fe Historical and Modeling Society in Oklahoma City June 21-24. After
that, it is my intention to actively promote the information I have
collected to someone who will produce kits of the 30-tube cars and
possibly a brass model of the original 3-tube cars. While I do not
have a 100% commitment from a maker, I do have some potential interest
and it "looks good." There are a number of engineering issues that
will require considerable thought before the pattern making process
begins.

The drawings, photographs and specifications for all eight generations
of helium tank cars have been cataloged/scanned/etc. Artwork is
underway for a decal sheet which will letter the new kits and anything
else available from 1926-1962 built dates and forward until the end of
helium car operations ca. 1998.

The decals would go with the new kits but would also be available
separately.

I've asked Richard to repost this to your list so everyone can get the
information. Thanks for your interest and support.
Jay Miller
Richard Hendrickson


Re: gondola loads

Gatwood, Elden J SAD <Elden.J.Gatwood@...>
 

Jerry;

I have been jazzed by diagonal plate loading cars since I first saw one back
when.



The cars that shipped big sheets like this one were often designated and
modified exclusively (like this car) for that service. You could load plates
diagonally that wouldn't fit within "normal" clearance in a standard gon, or
flat, but the sheets would not be that much larger than those that could be
loaded flat on a flat car deck. I do remember seeing thick sheets loaded in
a gon that were tipped up at an angle and riding on some blocking that was
laid on top of the side, with large straps that ran over the top edge, then
joined by threaded rods that ran down the face to a lower bracket that ran
under the load.



The big sheets that wouldn't fit in a regular car were accommodated by sawing
out a portion of a gon, or using a well car, either being fitted with posts
to tip the sheets against. The earliest dedicated ones I have seen drawings
of were the proposed but not-built F26 class (I think), which were actually
constructed without a floor on one side of the car, but a framework to
support a diagonal plate load instead. The PRR must've considered it and
dropped the project, because the next thing you saw was a converted F25 well
flat, the new F25B sub-class, that was retro-fitted, VERY crudely, with two
clusters of vertical posts riveted and bracketed against one side wall, to
lean the sheets against. There was also a crude restraining strap
arrangement. I have a bad repro photo of one of this class. They were later
replaced with the better engineered F25C class of cars, that had a much
fancier arrangement of 8 vertical posts with dedicated hold-downs mounted on
top of each post, that had angled steel brackets and rodding to hold the
entire set up rigidly in place. I have better photos of this class. F25D
and F25E followed, with variations to suit particular loads. Many loads like
domed boiler heads, were generated at Lukens Steel in e. Pa., and were
shipped via the Reading and then PRR. Other loads went to ship builders along
the east coast.



When these cars began being retired in the late 60's, they were replaced with
modified G36 class gons, for which portions of the floor were cut away and
even better engineered posts and brackets installed. I have the original
plans for this car. EJ&E created their own cars in this time frame, that
served the same purpose.



Many PRR and EJ&E cars were stenciled for the sheet works at Gary, where USS
made large sheets and plates.



The AAR rules have good drawings of the loads and restraining measures they
required for one to ship these loads, in our era of interest. I saw cars
fitted with this stuff in my earlier days of watching trains. I think some
of these cars were used to ship large sheets used in river barge repair
and/or building, as I saw the cars at those facilities.



Some day I am going to build a couple of these guys, but not today...



Regards,



Elden Gatwood





________________________________

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jerryglow2
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:43 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] gondola loads



Although the cars might be too new for this group's time frame, would
this practive <http://www.pbase.com/lumixfz30/gondola_detail_shots
<http://www.pbase.com/lumixfz30/gondola_detail_shots> >
have been used in the "transition" era?

Jerry Glow


Re: GACX 41001

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
I was lucky enough to fall into ownership of a bound copy of Rwy Age, Jan-Mar 1951. There is much interesting reading and advertising in here.
In the January 15th issue, there is a review of several aspects of railroad locomotives and other
equipment, including freight cars. (Was this an annual review? It implies so in the text, but I'm
not certain.)
Yes, a review and statistical summary was printed for many years.

There is, on page 211 of the January 15,1951 issue, an overhead 3/4 view of GACX 41001. It's a single-sheathed, I suppose, covered hopper with exposed Pratt trussed structure on the sides . . .
Is/was this a one-off experimental/demonstrator design?
GATC built several experimental and demonstrator cars in this period. For example, the first "Airslide" car was GACX 40999. You can see the closeness of the car number <g>.
Wasn't the truss-side design a larger capacity car? That sticks in my memory. It may have been shown in a Cyc or somewhere comparable.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


GACX 41001

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I was lucky enough to fall into ownership of a bound copy of Rwy Age, Jan-Mar 1951. There is much
interesting reading and advertising in here.

In the January 15th issue, there is a review of several aspects of railroad locomotives and other
equipment, including freight cars. (Was this an annual review? It implies so in the text, but I'm
not certain.) There is, on page 211 of the January 15,1951 issue, an overhead 3/4 view of GACX
41001. It's a single-sheathed, I suppose, covered hopper with exposed Pratt trussed structure on
the sides. The hoppers are such that the slope of the sides of the hoppers begins behind the truss
about 1/3 of the way up from the side sill, and then slopes inward toward the center. There are
small round hatches, four on each side. The overall length isn't given, but appears to be on the
order of 45-50'

Is/was this a one-off experimental/demonstrator design? I don't recall seeing such a car before.
There is nothing in the Archives on this car.

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!


Re: Louisiana & Arkansas RR Decals

tmolsen@...
 

Matt,

Have you tried Champion Decals last catalog. If they have them still available, they would be under the Road Name sets. At that point you would also need the data decal sheet also as the road name sets do not have the data with them.

Tom Olsen
Newark, Delaware


Helium Car Kits and Decals

Richard Hendrickson
 

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Jay H. Miller" <jay@kk5im.com>
Date: June 8, 2007 7:50:13 AM PDT
To: rhendrickson@opendoor.com
Subject: Helium Car Kits and Decals

Please post to the freight car list for me:

****************
While on assignment last week my mailbox overflowed with requests for
information about possible decals for helium tanks cars.

I have completed several years of intensive research into the helium
car/plant/operations subject and will present my findings at the Santa
Fe Historical and Modeling Society in Oklahoma City June 21-24. After
that, it is my intention to actively promote the information I have
collected to someone who will produce kits of the 30-tube cars and
possibly a brass model of the original 3-tube cars. While I do not
have a 100% commitment from a maker, I do have some potential interest
and it "looks good." There are a number of engineering issues that
will require considerable thought before the pattern making process
begins.

The drawings, photographs and specifications for all eight generations
of helium tank cars have been cataloged/scanned/etc. Artwork is
underway for a decal sheet which will letter the new kits and anything
else available from 1926-1962 built dates and forward until the end of
helium car operations ca. 1998.

The decals would go with the new kits but would also be available
separately.

I've asked Richard to repost this to your list so everyone can get the
information. Thanks for your interest and support.
Jay Miller
Richard Hendrickson


The Keystone Modeler - June 2007

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The June issue of TKM is online at
http://www.prrths.com/Keystone%20Modeler/Keystone_Modeler.htm

Articles of interest include:
- The Sandusky Branch and Coal Docks by Al Buchan
- Modeling the Sandusky Coal Dumper No 3 by Al Parker
- Modeling the Class H33 Covered Hopper by Chuck Cover
- Annual Meeting Contest Winners by Elden Gatwood


Ben Hom


Yahoo @#%&^$!

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

Sorry group, I used the "send email" icon on the site to reply to Jim Peters directly but it looks like it may have posted it to the group instead.

KL


e-mail problems

jim peters
 

Over the last few days I have requested 4 members of these groups, members who are not in my normal contact list, to contact me direct. I've been experiencing some difficulty - In the last week Mr. Micro-Soft decided twice I did not need to be contacted by the outside world.

I THINK I HAVE THE PROBLEM SOLVED - IF ANY OF THESE GENTLEMEN WERE TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT - PLEASE TRY AGAIN.

SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC MESSAGE.

Jim Peters
Coquitlam, BC

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Taurus Ladders

Schuyler Larrabee
 

With apologies about the length of time it's taken me to make good on my promise, I have uploaded
two workbench shots of Chesapeake System Caboose 425, equipped with Taurus photoetched ladders. It
may be worth mentioning that I did these cabooses (four) at least 15 years ago, and they have
resided on the North Shore club's layout since then. In general, they have survived the handling
(and manhandling) that they get in a club environment quite well. On occasion I've had to un-smash
the top curved parts of the stiles, but generally they remain in pretty good condition. I don't
remember if this was in the instructions, but I bent over the ends of the stiles and used brass NBW
castings to make a pinned connection at both the top and bottom of the ladder, so they are pinned in
place at four points. The point being you should not assume that the delicate look means a delicate
model.

Dean, the top doesn't much resemble your description,

North Shore Model Railroad Club: www.nsmrc.org

SGL
La vita e breve, mangiate prima il dolce!


Re: Louisiana & Arkansas RR Decals

jerryglow2
 

Martin (Sunshine) made 2 versions of the Howe truss side car for L&A.
He may have decals available.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "matthewjstrickland"
<matthewjstrickland@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Is there any Louisiana & Arkansas RR Decals out there? I am trying
to
model their 40ft single sheathed box car in 1950 in HO Scale. I just
can't find any Decals.

Any suggestions?

thanks for your help in advance

MATT

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