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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
All true but making a PDF file from a scanned image is more time-consuming,
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requires a different program, and results in very large files... Jack Burgess www.yosemitevalleyrr.com
On my Mac I can do a article and then tell it to print. When the
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Re: Fishbelly FOBX 50' Plywood Side --Dreadnaught Ends- Ten Ice Hatches and Other Color Pictures
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
gary laakso wrote:
There is a partial color picture taken in May, 1953 in Denver of one of the 4000-4173 class 50 foot fish belly FOBX (FGEX owned marks) on pages 78 and 79 of Trackside Around Granger Country, 1952-1955 by Rich Wilson. The picture clearly shows narrow the frame was compared to the width of the body.The important thing about the FOBX cars was the overhead ice bunkers (thus the "Overhead Bunkers" in the reporting mark). They had heavier insulation too, thus the wider body. There is an overhead shot of one in the PFE book (to illustrate icing). Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Fishbelly FOBX 50' Plywood Side --Dreadnaught Ends- Ten Ice Hatches and Other Color Pictures
gary laakso
There is a partial color picture taken in May, 1953 in Denver of one of the 4000-4173 class 50 foot fish belly FOBX (FGEX owned marks) on pages 78 and 79 of Trackside Around Granger Country, 1952-1955 by Rich Wilson. The picture clearly shows narrow the frame was compared to the width of the body.
For the coal minded (notice, i did not say dirty), on pages 8 and 9 there is a July 20, 1952 picture of a Rock Island freight in Muscatine, IA passing a string of gons and hoppers including a P&LE 2 bay hopper, a NYC 2 bay hopper, a C&EI two bay hopper and a war emergency 52 foot gondola of undetermined ownership. Those of us completing Westerfield Milwaukee stock cars or Sunshine ART wood reefers can be inspired by the wonderful derailment detail pictures on pages 11 to 15 ( yes, there is a Warren tank car, WRNX 11315 in the pictured too), all in Muscatine on April12, 1952. The truck from the Milwaukee is a surprising light dust color with oily/muck colored wheels, much the same as the ART 21993 reefer's truck. gary laakso south of Mike Brock vasa0vasa@...
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Larry Kline
Tim O'Connor wrote:
scan to a PDF for free? i've had 6 PC's over the years and not one of them can CREATE a PDF file. The Mac print utility can create PDFs. I recently used it to convert a 24 page P&LERR Historical Society magazine issue from a Word document to a pdf. I was pleased with the results, including the images. I did use Photoshop to appropriately size the 24 images that I put into the Word document, but a less expensive program such as Photoshop Elements would have worked equally well. Larry Kline Pittsburgh, PA
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Jack Burgess <jack@...>
"Bill is a generous person, though youA 54-page PDF file scanned at 100 dpi (marginal quality) and not converted from Word would be about 25 megs....not the thing you can e-mail to people. Jack Burgess www.yosemitevalleyrr.com
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PDF's
asychis@...
In a message dated 7/17/2007 2:07:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
STMFC@... writes: All true but making a PDF file from a scanned image is more time-consuming, requires a different program, and results in very large files... Adobe Acrobat (not Reader) does this easily. Files can be trimmed down, but I agree are quite large. Jerry Michels ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
toddsyr <toddsyr@...>
There are free programs that will write PDF files nowadays just to keep the information current. A Google search will put you in the right direction. I do agree however that nobody is obligated to give away anything they've taken the time to research and compile or photograph. I know alot of folks think they should get something for nothing just because they can. I'm not one of them though. I pay for my music, give credit and weblinks for photos from the internet posted in various RR forums, take only one newspaper from the coinbox etc etc etc.
Todd K. Stearns
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Re: CPR Fowler box car end bracing:
Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Thanks Jim for the reference to the Westerfield material. Actually, I have quite a number of the Westerfield kits (dark grey resin), but the instruction sheets don't break down the cars with differing end bracing styles - perhaps they are older sheets? It does indicate that number series 100000 - 139998 (even) and 200000 - 212499 are two brace cars, and that the earlier cars had more end braces. In any event, I was also referred to the Westerfield web page, and there one finds a very useful breakdown for all the cars which I expect I'll be able to follow.
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Re the sides: its not the prototype sides that need to be or were changed. I was referring to the Canadian Hobbycraft boxcar model of a few years ago, which has 2 equally spaced side panels either side of the doors. It ought to have wider panels next to the doors and narrower ones toward the ends. They do this very nicely with the stock car model, and since the bracing (on both cars) is composed of glued on add-ons to the injection moulded car side, I am merely suggesting they use the side bracing from the stock cars to improve the box cars. Frankly, if they would just sell the side bracing for both car types as detail items, I'd be happy to use them for a number of projects. Rob Kirkham
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From: "jim peters" <mikado2206@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:16 AM Subject: RE: [STMFC] CPR Fowler box car end bracing: Good morning,
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Ray Stilwell wrote:
This is the 21st century. Who goes to Kinkos and pays their prices when you can scan the handout to a PDF file and distribute it via E-mail for free.Different process for different needs. If people need to follow along in a handout DURING the talk, Ray, your suggestion is meaningless. So, it's not about money, it's about the willingness to share.Nice one, suggesting that Bill doesn't want to share. You should apologize, Ray. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: FGEX wood reefers from Accurail kits?
Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Pieter Roos wrote:
The list of resources available for FEGX cars includes . . .Thanks for setting the record straight, Pieter. Not everyone who complains knows as much as they ought to. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Ljack70117@...
On my Mac I can do a article and then tell it to print. When the print program comes up There is a save to PDF option and if I save to PDF then I can take the PDF and email it where ever I wish. PDF are no big thing on a MAC.
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Thank you Larry Jackman Boca Raton FL ljack70117@... I was born with nothing and I have most of it left
On Jul 17, 2007, at 10:51 AM, mike turner wrote:
Tim,
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
mike turner <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
Tim,
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These programs allow creation and viewing .pdf files without Adobe's help. Printing from a word processor, spreadsheet, or other program to a .pdf does work. I have not tried converting a scanned image, yet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDFCreator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostscript Mike Turner Simpsonville, SC Tim O'Connor wrote:
George R. Stilwell, Jr. writes:
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Re: Caboose truck help needed
Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
I should have realized I couldn't attach a photo to a posting. I've added an
album to the "Photos" section of the group's Yahoo page. Look for "ATSF way car (caboose)" if you're interested, but allow some time for the photos to be vetted. -- Andy Andy Sperandeo Executive Editor Model Railroader magazine asperandeo@... 262-796-8776, ext. 461 FAX 262-796-1142
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
George R. Stilwell, Jr. writes: scan to a PDF for free? i've had 6 PC's over the years and not one of them can CREATE a PDF file -- only the Adobe reader is freeware, not the writer software. But I'm sure if you'll send Bill $449 for the Adobe software, plus a flatbed scanner, and a stack of CD's and mailing sleeves, then he'll make you a free copy. Tim O'Connor
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Re: Caboose truck help needed
Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
Hello Mark,
I don't claim to be a truck expert either, but the truck in your photo at least resembles the Barber-Bettendorf swing motion caboose truck. In HO, Athearn and Atlas both have roller-bearing versions of the Barber-Bettendorf truck, and Atlas also makes a solid-bearing version. I'm using the Atlas solid-bearing trucks (no. 191000) under Athearn cabooses modified to represent the railroad-built (in 1942) AT&SF 2001-series way cars. It's a nice truck, especially with the addition of Reboxx narrow-tread wheelsets and Kadee no. 441 brake beams. These are the trucks under the caboose in the attached photo; unfortunately, I don't have a closeup view of the truck. So long, Andy Andy Sperandeo Executive Editor Model Railroader magazine asperandeo@... 262-796-8776, ext. 461 FAX 262-796-1142
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
George R. Stilwell, Jr. writes:
"This is the 21st century. Who goes to Kinkos and pays their prices when you can scan the handout to a PDF file and distribute it via E-mail for free." Ever tried to distribute a handout during a clinic via Email? The point of all this is that Bill generated a very extensive clinic handout. Scan a 54 pg handout? Okaaay. Not me though...I have other things to do. "The recipient can print it if desired or just read it on their computer. So, it's not about money, it's about the willingness to share." I would disagree. It's about having time. Mike Brock
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Re: pic from rrpicturearchives
George R. Stilwell, Jr. <GRSJr@...>
"Bill is a generous person, though you
clearly don't know that. And it sure ain't about money. Go to your local Kinkos or other copy shop with a 54-page document and see what it costs to copy it, before you complain about Bill's $3 charge." This is the 21st century. Who goes to Kinkos and pays their prices when you can scan the handout to a PDF file and distribute it via E-mail for free. The recipient can print it if desired or just read it on their computer. So, it's not about money, it's about the willingness to share. One could argue the cost of scanning, but many HP printers scan for free. If Bill wants, I'll scan the handout for him and send him the PDF file. Ray
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Re: FGEX wood reefers from Accurail kits?
Pieter Roos
Hi Don;
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The list of resources available for FEGX cars includes: B&O Modeler article that started the thread - free! Article with drawing in Jan 1988 Mainline Modeler. - $2.50 plus S&H from the publisher. While I said I don't know if it is accurate, it appears the drawing was developed from measuring an actual car. Numerous detail photos of the somewhat derelict car are included, along with two roster shots of unrelated FEGX cars. The drawing is of the 8 inch sill version, called Type 2 in Bill's RMJ article but I gather now changed to Type 4 according to Greg? Trainshed Cyclopedia #3, Box Stock and Reefer Cars from the 1931 CBC includes a drawing of the same 8" side sill car as built with a wood roof. Available from the publisher for $15.95. RMJ article by Bill Welch cited earlier - numerous photos of FEGX and WFE cars along with short history of the companies and commentary on the development of the designs. This issues appears to be available from the publisher for $6.95 plus S+H Fruit Growers Express/Burlington Refrigerator Express/Western Fruit Express Wartime Reefers (1942-1946), RAILWAY PROTOTYPE CYCLOPEDIA Volume Twelve available from the publisher for $24.95. The Burlington Refrigerator Express Company's Signature Wood Sheathed Reefers, Prototype Railroad Modeling Vol 1. Truss Rod Refrigerator Cars of the Fruit Growers Express/Western Fruit Express/Burlington Refrigerator Express Consortium, Part One: The Prototypes, Prototype Railroad Modeling Vol 2. Both available from the publisher. In addition to the Accurail car, Sunshine has several resin FEGX/WFE cars listed as still available according to the list in the group files. It appears that a model of the FEGX cars would not be all that hard to build, and the information is pretty readily available to build a creditable fleet. If you get the first four items on the list you should be in good shape for modifying the Accurail cars for under $35.00. Pieter Roos
--- In STMFC@..., Don Worthy <don_worthy@...> wrote:
<SNIP> But WOW, I can't get over so many years have gone by and we herein the South still can't model or don't have the right to model the one brand of reefer used so heavily here in the South or Eastern states. I mean...can't even find out the measurements for a car. attend one of those big meets. I would like to invite any one on this list or person of knowledgeto come to our "Middle Georgia Railroad Association" club meetings. We meet every 3rd Monday of the month at the "restored" Central of Georgia depot in Gordon, Ga. WE would LOVE to have ya'll. We'll feed you and show you some goodold (now NS) railroading. Don Worthy
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Re: CPR Fowler box car end bracing:
jim peters
Good morning,
The information sheet from the Westerfield kits is most likely the best summary you will find. Also check Ian's site http://freightcars.nikina.net I was unaware of any changes were ever made to the side framing. Jim Peters Coquitlam, BC From: Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>_________________________________________________________________ Tell us your tech love story in the Summer Lovin Competition for your chance to win laptop loaded with Windows Vista, Office 2007 and Windows Live OneCare. http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/summerlovin/default.aspx
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Re: 1952 Magor hoppers or covered hoppers
Tony Thompson
Tim O'Connor wrote:
Aha!! Check out page 1109 of the 1953 Car Builder's Cyclopedia. I thought it might be an export car -- for Mexico! (The one in the photo is 3100cft, with 1 extra rib, but it's basically the same car.)Excellent catch, Tim. The Cyc photo is fairly small, but the car sure looks identical in all regards, including dimensions. Wonder how SP got ahold of these Mexican grain cars--could have been a broker in the middle--and we know SP was short of covered hoppers in that period. And the company shown as buying the cars fits exactly with the Magor builder list. Now to trace the Compania Exportadora e Importadora Mexicana, SA, in the Registers <g>. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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