The short answer is yes - it was the Canadian subsidiary of Union Oil of California, active mostly in the 1930s and 1940s and its British Columbia operation was closely intertwined with that of Imperial Oil (Esso etc)

A great resource for tracking reporting marks is run by Ian Cranstone at http://www.nakina.net/report.html The listings for UOKX are at http://www.nakina.net/reportu.html and show the following:

UOKX Union Oil Co. of Canada, Ltd. (Union Oil Co. of California)7/1930-7/1932
UOKX Union Oil Co. of Canada, Ltd.7/1937-1/1945
UOKX British American Oil Co. Ltd.1/1946-4/1947

BA acquired assets of Union Oil Co. of Canada after WW2, including the location on Burrard Inlet (Unocan) that became Britamoco, so that last line makes sense in that regard.

Is your photo at an accessible location? I'd be interested to have a close look at it.

Doug Rhodes

On Nov 18, 2007, at 11:10 AM, destron@... wrote:

... I have a photo of a tank car
marked "Union Oil Co of Canada, Vancouver, BC", UOKX 10010. Did this
have
anything to do with the Union Oil Co of California? I don't know the
date
of the photo, but it is on archbar trucks. Does anyone have an idea
around
what time this may have been? UOKX is not listed in 1953 ORER... was
it
listed previously?

Union Oil of Canada was Union Oil of California's western Canadian
subsidiary. I have several photos of UOKX cars dating from the late
1920s. The 11/31 ORER shows 70 cars under OKX reporting marks. By
1945, 55 of those cars were still listed in the ORER, but they were
gone by 1947 and the entire Union Oil tank car fleet had been
renumbered, so it's hard to tell whether they were sold or absorbed
into the UOCX fleet.

Richard Hendrickson

On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Robert wrote:

Could it be Sun Oil Company, later Sunoco?

No. because the Sun Oil Co. was entirely an east coast operation (and
later midwestern, after it acquired DX). It had no offices in Los
Angeles, no western production facilities, and no wholesale or retail
operations in the western US.

Richard Hendrickson

Sunray Oil, perhaps? Just at a blind-fire guess.

Slightly related, in that it is tank cars: I have a photo of a tank car
marked "Union Oil Co of Canada, Vancouver, BC", UOKX 10010. Did this have
anything to do with the Union Oil Co of California? I don't know the date
of the photo, but it is on archbar trucks. Does anyone have an idea around
what time this may have been? UOKX is not listed in 1953 ORER... was it
listed previously?

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Robert Simpson wrote:

Could it be Sun Oil Company, later Sunoco?

And lettered for Los Angeles? Not very likely.

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Robert Simpson wrote:

Could it be Sun Oil Company, later Sunoco?

And lettered for Los Angeles? Not very likely.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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Could it be Sun Oil Company, later Sunoco?
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--- In STMFC@..., Dan Gledhill <gledhilldan@...> wrote:

Hello ,
I've been trying to identify an early rivetted tank car

that has only part of it's original company name left on it's upper
side.The name as I can best make out begins with the word SUN in dark
8 to 10 inch Roman print and ends with the words OIL COMPANY in the
same style.It appears as if the dome may have been silver and also
the upper tank,as a little of the original paint exists on the tanks
top surfaces.There is some smaller lettering stenciled on the cars
lower sides ,which is approx. 3 to 4 inchs high and reads LOS ANGELIS
while further along the cars side in similar print are the name
CALIFORNIA.

With all the recent posts on Atlas tank car 105 lately and

several mentions of California oil companies having the name SUN in
them ,hopefully someone could help identify this one.

Tanks in Advance
Dan

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I've seen it used for making bridge piers; I don't know if there had been
any filing or other cleanup work done to the parts, but they looked very
sharp.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

Jeff wrote >

Commercial models are available made using the rapid prototyping
technique. The outfit is called Smoky Mountain Model Works and is
run by Jim King. Jim was making O-scale models but was unhappy with
the degree of support from the O-scale community and switched over to
S-scale about a year ago. He has also made some HO products under
contract to others; the one that comes to mind is a SOU gondola
(which was also the prototype of his first S-scale product)

Tom Madden gave a clinic at Naperville a couple of years ago. While
RP is slick, there is a huge learning curve to making good models
using this technique, and at this point only somebody whose job gives
them access to the equipment (as Jim King has) can economically use
it for making models.

The article that Bruce referred to makes this particular type of RP
accessible to the average modeler. There is a need to "draft" the part
in 3-D but the rest of the work can be out-sourced. While the resulting
part sounds expensive ($25 for a air compressor in 1/32 scale as I
recall....I don't have access to the article right now), it would be
worthwhile if the resulting RP part can then used as a master for
casting duplicates in resin. The only question that I have is whether or
not the parts are as "clean" as an equivalent scratchbuilt part. I plan
to give it a try...

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Jeff wrote >

Commercial models are available made using the rapid prototyping technique. The outfit is called Smoky Mountain Model Works and is run by Jim King. Jim was making O-scale models but was unhappy with the degree of support from the O-scale community and switched over to S-scale about a year ago. He has also made some HO products under contract to others; the one that comes to mind is a SOU gondola (which was also the prototype of his first S-scale product)
Tom Madden gave a clinic at Naperville a couple of years ago. While RP is slick, there is a huge learning curve to making good models using this technique, and at this point only somebody whose job gives them access to the equipment (as Jim King has) can economically use it for making models.

The article that Bruce referred to makes this particular type of RP accessible to the average modeler. There is a need to "draft" the part in 3-D but the rest of the work can be out-sourced. While the resulting part sounds expensive ($25 for a air compressor in 1/32 scale as I recall....I don't have access to the article right now), it would be worthwhile if the resulting RP part can then used as a master for casting duplicates in resin. The only question that I have is whether or not the parts are as "clean" as an equivalent scratchbuilt part. I plan to give it a try...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com

Hello ,
I've been trying to identify an early rivetted tank car that has only part of it's original company name left on it's upper side.The name as I can best make out begins with the word SUN in dark 8 to 10 inch Roman print and ends with the words OIL COMPANY in the same style.It appears as if the dome may have been silver and also the upper tank,as a little of the original paint exists on the tanks top surfaces.There is some smaller lettering stenciled on the cars lower sides ,which is approx. 3 to 4 inchs high and reads LOS ANGELIS while further along the cars side in similar print are the name CALIFORNIA.
With all the recent posts on Atlas tank car 105 lately and several mentions of California oil companies having the name SUN in them ,hopefully someone could help identify this one.
Tanks in Advance
Dan Gledhill



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Bruce,

Commercial models are available made using the rapid prototyping
technique. The outfit is called Smoky Mountain Model Works and is
run by Jim King. Jim was making O-scale models but was unhappy with
the degree of support from the O-scale community and switched over to
S-scale about a year ago. He has also made some HO products under
contract to others; the one that comes to mind is a SOU gondola
(which was also the prototype of his first S-scale product)

Tom Madden gave a clinic at Naperville a couple of years ago. While
RP is slick, there is a huge learning curve to making good models
using this technique, and at this point only somebody whose job gives
them access to the equipment (as Jim King has) can economically use
it for making models.

Hope this helps -

Jeff English
Troy, New York

--- In STMFC@..., "bdg1210" <Bruce_Griffin@...> wrote:

Group members,

Based on this and other comments about the current issue of Fine
Scale Modeler I purchased a copy to learn about using Future for a
gloss decaling finish. What I found more intersting was an article
about developing parts using CAD and online 3D printing to get the
part delievered to your door. It appears expensive, but a great
chance to get that one part you need. Has anyone used a similar
process to get steam era freight car parts developed?

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Summerfield, NC

--- In STMFC@..., Jack Burgess <jack@> wrote:

The current issue of Finescale Modeler has an insert on air-

brushing of

acrylic paints (but I will still stick with Floquil) and an

article

on

the use of Future. In reading past articles in Finescale Modeler,

it

seems that Future is the primary choice for plane, automobile,

etc.

modelers. I haven't used it yet in an airbrush but have brush

painted it

on just portions of wood models to allow for decaling and it

worked

just

fine. I'm sure that it won't hurt the Floquil. You need to be

careful

only if applying a heavy coat of a lacquer-based paint (such as

Floquil)

over an enamel or water-based paint...

Jack Burgess
yosemitevalleyrr.com

In a message dated 11/17/2007 2:36:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
bauerrv2000@... writes:




You might check www.speedwitch.You might check www.speedwitch.<WBR>com for
stock. Rainer Bauer



Actually, that was the forest place I looked and they are sold out. I think
I have it covered but I am going to have to back my bet and keep searching.
But It think that the NMRA COULD sell at least another 200 or perhaps more.
They also need to spread the word better as well.

Greg Martin

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Group members,

Based on this and other comments about the current issue of Fine
Scale Modeler I purchased a copy to learn about using Future for a
gloss decaling finish. What I found more intersting was an article
about developing parts using CAD and online 3D printing to get the
part delievered to your door. It appears expensive, but a great
chance to get that one part you need. Has anyone used a similar
process to get steam era freight car parts developed?

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Summerfield, NC

--- In STMFC@..., Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:

The current issue of Finescale Modeler has an insert on air-

brushing of

acrylic paints (but I will still stick with Floquil) and an article

on

the use of Future. In reading past articles in Finescale Modeler,

it

seems that Future is the primary choice for plane, automobile, etc.
modelers. I haven't used it yet in an airbrush but have brush

painted it

on just portions of wood models to allow for decaling and it worked

just

fine. I'm sure that it won't hurt the Floquil. You need to be

careful

only if applying a heavy coat of a lacquer-based paint (such as

Floquil)

over an enamel or water-based paint...

Jack Burgess
yosemitevalleyrr.com

I learned from Richard Hendrickson in Naperville that the IC had R-40-10
clones. I see that Intermountain has also done PFE R-40-23 cars in an IC
scheme. Are these correct too? Is there a definitive source on IC steel
reefers, an ICHS back issue?
Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

pierreoliver2003 wrote:

Al,
The problem from where I sit is that it isn't painted but cast in somewhat the correct colour. Giving the whole car a toy like appearance.
It makes me fear for the upcoming cabooses.
Pierre Oliver

I have handled painted test shots of the cabooses, both CNR and CPR.
They are Very Nice. Going to sell out!

If you are not on a reservation list at your LHS you will probably not get one. Not a big problem if you are willing to wait for the second or third run of numbers. These models are done right and will be rerun several times.

Bill Dixon

--- In STMFC@..., Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@...>
wrote:

On Nov 17, 2007, at 6:05 AM, John Hile wrote:

Anchor Petroleum Co (ANPX) has ICC105A300W's in the 1/53 ORER and
lists one of their home points as Gulf, CA (Sunset Ry). I still have
to determine what products Anchor produced at the Gulf, CA facility,
but significant natural gas and petroleum deposits were found in Kern
Co.

I have a Stan Kistler photo of a steam-era train on the Sunset Ry.
which included an Anchor ICC-105, so Anchor was apparently hauling LPG
from its facility in the Taft area.

Richard Hendrickson

Thanks Richard, that is very helpful.

John Hile
Blacksburg, VA

On Nov 17, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Richard, Atlas did a second run of Warren cars in the correct
light gray paint (e.g. Atlas #1032-4). They also did black Warren
cars (Atlas #1077-x).

Thanks, Tim. I'll order one, and probably repaint the one I have black
and decal it UTLX with Steve Hile's nice lettering set.

Richard Hendrickson

Andy S wrote:

Atlas appears to have corrected the color of its Warren car. I saw
one new in its box in a hobby shop last weekend that was light gray
instead of aluminum.

Andy is correct. I have one of each in my hands. Part #s 1032-1 and -2 have silver on their tanks, #s 1032-3 and -4 have light gray.

Scott Chatfield

You might check www.speedwitch.com for the book I think Ted has it in
stock. Rainer Bauer

Richard, Atlas did a second run of Warren cars in the correct
light gray paint (e.g. Atlas #1032-4). They also did black Warren
cars (Atlas #1077-x).

Tim O'Connor

--- In STMFC@..., Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

I do hope that as True Line learns this business and (in my opinion)
continues to incrementally improve its products from one project to

the

next, they continue to use this same paint/ink for the lettering.

In fact,

I'd like it if every manufacturer would learn that secret and follow

suit!

Rob Kirkham

I think it's a function of the lettering being an ink as opposed to a
paint. Most manufactures use rubber stamp type lettering and use ink.
When I visited Athearn's facility thats what they were doing but they
also used the ink to "paint" a contrasting colour on a battery box
under a diesel's raised portion of walkway rather than masking and
painting. They also double stamped some colours. You might find that
striping is also done with ink and then lettering inked on top of the
stripe.
Who in North America knows what the formula the Chinese are using for
their paints on our freight cars(had to add the freight car content),
Mattel doesn't for their toys.
Allen Ferguson