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Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Jon Miller wrote:
At some time in history there will be no more chemicals, paper, and other items needed for printing.
Undoubtedly true, but not soon. For example, it is still possible to buy everything you need to set metal type and hand-print it--though it's not remotely commercial. It's just become a specialty market for a very few hobbyists. I strongly suspect the same will be true for "silver halide" photography throughout the lifetime of anyone on this list. But as Jon says, of course at SOME TIME it will go.

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another source of scale scrap

James Mischke <jmischke@...>
 

I have been progressing through a trio of Speedwitch Duryea
underframes for Red Caboose boxcars as B&O class M-26d.

Doing things in threes means either I learn from mistakes on the
first one, or make three consecutive mistakes for fleet uniformity.

My beedy eyes noticed that the resin flash between parts is
perfect sheet metal scrap. Thin. Stiff. Flat. Holds paint.
Does not cut flesh unless provoked.

The first 1000 rectangular shards were done by hand on a block
of wood with an exacto blade. Then I remembered I had a
Northwest Shortline "Chopper" and made a billion more.

I tried to keep the size down to two-three scale feet in any
dimension, processed scrap needs to fit into the furnace mouth.
I made some attempt at orthagonality, but not always.

I hope someone finds this idea inspiring.


Re: Speedwitch web site (Was Athearn C&NW 65 ft mill gon)

Don Worthy
 

I can get on the site but, I can't go to his other pages.
This had not been a problem except for the last couple of days.
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.

tbarney2004 <tbarney@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<Elden.J.Gatwood@...> wrote:

Anybody else having no luck pulling up Ted's website? Been going on
several
days...



Elden Gatwood

I just tried here Elden, about 6:$5pm Thursday...came right up, no
hesitation.

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Re: another source of scale scrap

ogdentowebercanyon
 

Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a picture you can post?

Jason

James Mischke <jmischke@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


I have been progressing through a trio of Speedwitch Duryea
underframes for Red Caboose boxcars as B&O class M-26d.

Doing things in threes means either I learn from mistakes on the
first one, or make three consecutive mistakes for fleet uniformity.

My beedy eyes noticed that the resin flash between parts is
perfect sheet metal scrap. Thin. Stiff. Flat. Holds paint.
Does not cut flesh unless provoked.

The first 1000 rectangular shards were done by hand on a block
of wood with an exacto blade. Then I remembered I had a
Northwest Shortline "Chopper" and made a billion more.

I tried to keep the size down to two-three scale feet in any
dimension, processed scrap needs to fit into the furnace mouth.
I made some attempt at orthagonality, but not always.

I hope someone finds this idea inspiring.



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Re: Speedwitch web site (Was Athearn C&NW 65 ft mill gon)

tbarney2004
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<Elden.J.Gatwood@...> wrote:

Anybody else having no luck pulling up Ted's website? Been going on
several
days...



Elden Gatwood

I just tried here Elden, about 6:$5pm Thursday...came right up, no
hesitation.

Tim Barney


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jeff Coleman
 

not to worry, B&W film photography is still very popular!
Jeff Coleman

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, MOFWCABOOSE@... wrote:

I was recently checking the Ilford website and they affirmed their
committment to the "silver halide process". I don't think that
Kodak dropped their paper
because it was no longer profitable. I think it is more likely that
it was no
longer profitable enough. Big companies tend to think that way,
unfortunately
for the rest of us.

John C. La Rue, Jr. [Still using the silver halide process]
Bonita Springs, FL


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The B&O Modeler - September/October 2007

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The September/October 2007 issue of The B&O Modeler ia available
online at
http://borhs.org/ModelerMag/index.html

Articles of interest include:
ProtoWest Models' B&O Class P-24/P-25 Flat Car by Elden Gatwood
Photo Feature: B&O Models from Prototype Modelers Meets by Ben Hom


Ben Hom


Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:28:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thompson@signaturepress.com writes:

Rich Orr wrote:
I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger.
Given some of the other claims and performances of Dick's die
cutter, Rich, you need to consider the source.



Tony, I can't argue with that. The die cutter is why we don't have the X29b
and X29d.

Rich



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Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

Larry,

I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger. Not my area of
expertise. Maybe the die cutter just didn't want to do it. I don't know.

Rich Orr

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:05:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Ljack70117@comcast.net writes:

see below


Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@comcast.net
Boca Raton FL 33434
I want to die in my sleep like
my grandfather did, not screaming
like the other people in his car.


On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:50 PM, SUVCWORR@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@hotmail.com writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6"
IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3
different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my
understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The
question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate
ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from
separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once
the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies,
Wrong. you can fill any cavities that you do not want. If Brass molds
you use soldier. If steel you can weld. Then you can re-cut the area
as you want it. In My machine shop experience I have saves several
dies and molds that way.
Some times you make a mistake and you cut the area out weld or
soldier a new block in the hole and start cutting again. Easy to fix
mistakes or change things.
there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the
details
molded on.

Rich Orr






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Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@hotmail.com writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6" IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3 different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies, there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the details
molded on.

Rich Orr



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Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.<
At some time in history there will be no more chemicals, paper, and other items needed for printing.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Help needed

Dennis Williams
 

$30.00, $29.00, $25.00 and $27.00. Dennis
--- lrkdbn <lrkdbn@aol.com> wrote:

Does anyone out there have a current price list for
Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I
would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@aol.com>



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Help needed

lrkdbn
 

Does anyone out there have a current price list for Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@aol.com>


Re: NP reefer plans?

lrkdbn
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...>
wrote:

I don't have plans but do have 4 rolls of photos of the real thing,
including underneath.



Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon



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I'd be real interested in getting prints of these...Would you be
willing to sell me a set?

Larry King
please reply to:<lrkdbn@aol.com>


photo prints

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide
film, B/W
printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have
them make
prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the
traditional
photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if
you want a
print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the
scans. In
fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints
and ask
for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal
charge...

Easy enough for a professional lab but the man making up prints one
at a time is faced with buying expensive equipment which he has to
learn to use or having the prints made by a professional. Vollrath
has been maing up prints for 60 years.

Ed


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.<
Does this mean that photos of our beloved freight cars will need
to be
scanned and printed that way. I know this is labor intensive however
it
looks to be the only long term solution.
It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.

Ed


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jack Burgess
 

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide film, B/W
printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have them make
prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the traditional
photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if you want a
print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the scans. In
fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints and ask
for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal charge...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.<
Does this mean that photos of our beloved freight cars will need to be scanned and printed that way. I know this is labor intensive however it looks to be the only long term solution.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...> asked:
Are any of Harold's lists available as PDF or other digital files?
Rob- 2 years ago Mr. Vollrath definitely had e-mail but the lists I
have were all printed.

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.
Kodak continued to make B&W paper overseas but then dropped even
that. Some of the other traditional photo process companies like Agfa
& Ilford are going bankrupt too so are unlikely to continue selling
unprofitable product lines.

One reason traditional photography died so fast is that electronic
reproduction does not use silver.

Bob was a professional photo processor so he probably knows this
story better than anyone. Who else wants a lot of 8X10 B&W photos
from negatives taken over 50 years ago?

Like John LaRue, anything Vollrath catagorizes as #1 is excellent.
I've been burned a lot of times by others offering railroad photos.
What they class as "good" (or even "excellent") looked like crap to
me.

Harold Vollrath has some excellent steam era freight car negatives.
His steam photos are the best there is too.

Ed


Re 12-pnl boxcars

jim peters
 

Sorry, I see my last post must be corrected to read "Steve, you mentioned . . .

Jim Peters (or in this case, "Dumb Canuck")
Coquitlam, BC
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