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Re: Speedwitch web site (Was Athearn C&NW 65 ft mill gon)

tbarney2004
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<Elden.J.Gatwood@...> wrote:

Anybody else having no luck pulling up Ted's website? Been going on
several
days...



Elden Gatwood

I just tried here Elden, about 6:$5pm Thursday...came right up, no
hesitation.

Tim Barney


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jeff Coleman
 

not to worry, B&W film photography is still very popular!
Jeff Coleman

--- In STMFC@..., MOFWCABOOSE@... wrote:

I was recently checking the Ilford website and they affirmed their
committment to the "silver halide process". I don't think that
Kodak dropped their paper
because it was no longer profitable. I think it is more likely that
it was no
longer profitable enough. Big companies tend to think that way,
unfortunately
for the rest of us.

John C. La Rue, Jr. [Still using the silver halide process]
Bonita Springs, FL


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The B&O Modeler - September/October 2007

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

The September/October 2007 issue of The B&O Modeler ia available
online at
http://borhs.org/ModelerMag/index.html

Articles of interest include:
ProtoWest Models' B&O Class P-24/P-25 Flat Car by Elden Gatwood
Photo Feature: B&O Models from Prototype Modelers Meets by Ben Hom


Ben Hom


Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:28:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thompson@... writes:

Rich Orr wrote:
I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger.
Given some of the other claims and performances of Dick's die
cutter, Rich, you need to consider the source.



Tony, I can't argue with that. The die cutter is why we don't have the X29b
and X29d.

Rich



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Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

Larry,

I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger. Not my area of
expertise. Maybe the die cutter just didn't want to do it. I don't know.

Rich Orr

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:05:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Ljack70117@... writes:

see below


Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@...
Boca Raton FL 33434
I want to die in my sleep like
my grandfather did, not screaming
like the other people in his car.


On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:50 PM, SUVCWORR@... wrote:


In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@... writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6"
IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3
different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my
understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The
question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate
ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from
separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once
the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies,
Wrong. you can fill any cavities that you do not want. If Brass molds
you use soldier. If steel you can weld. Then you can re-cut the area
as you want it. In My machine shop experience I have saves several
dies and molds that way.
Some times you make a mistake and you cut the area out weld or
soldier a new block in the hole and start cutting again. Easy to fix
mistakes or change things.
there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the
details
molded on.

Rich Orr






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Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

SUVCWORR@...
 

In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@... writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6" IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3 different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies, there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the details
molded on.

Rich Orr



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Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.<
At some time in history there will be no more chemicals, paper, and other items needed for printing.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Help needed

Dennis Williams
 

$30.00, $29.00, $25.00 and $27.00. Dennis
--- lrkdbn <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

Does anyone out there have a current price list for
Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I
would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@...>



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Help needed

lrkdbn
 

Does anyone out there have a current price list for Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@...>


Re: NP reefer plans?

lrkdbn
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...>
wrote:

I don't have plans but do have 4 rolls of photos of the real thing,
including underneath.



Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon



_____
I'd be real interested in getting prints of these...Would you be
willing to sell me a set?

Larry King
please reply to:<lrkdbn@...>


photo prints

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide
film, B/W
printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have
them make
prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the
traditional
photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if
you want a
print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the
scans. In
fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints
and ask
for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal
charge...

Easy enough for a professional lab but the man making up prints one
at a time is faced with buying expensive equipment which he has to
learn to use or having the prints made by a professional. Vollrath
has been maing up prints for 60 years.

Ed


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.<
Does this mean that photos of our beloved freight cars will need
to be
scanned and printed that way. I know this is labor intensive however
it
looks to be the only long term solution.
It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.

Ed


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jack Burgess <jack@...>
 

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide film, B/W
printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have them make
prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the traditional
photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if you want a
print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the scans. In
fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints and ask
for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal charge...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.<
Does this mean that photos of our beloved freight cars will need to be scanned and printed that way. I know this is labor intensive however it looks to be the only long term solution.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...> asked:
Are any of Harold's lists available as PDF or other digital files?
Rob- 2 years ago Mr. Vollrath definitely had e-mail but the lists I
have were all printed.

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.
Kodak continued to make B&W paper overseas but then dropped even
that. Some of the other traditional photo process companies like Agfa
& Ilford are going bankrupt too so are unlikely to continue selling
unprofitable product lines.

One reason traditional photography died so fast is that electronic
reproduction does not use silver.

Bob was a professional photo processor so he probably knows this
story better than anyone. Who else wants a lot of 8X10 B&W photos
from negatives taken over 50 years ago?

Like John LaRue, anything Vollrath catagorizes as #1 is excellent.
I've been burned a lot of times by others offering railroad photos.
What they class as "good" (or even "excellent") looked like crap to
me.

Harold Vollrath has some excellent steam era freight car negatives.
His steam photos are the best there is too.

Ed


Re 12-pnl boxcars

jim peters
 

Sorry, I see my last post must be corrected to read "Steve, you mentioned . . .

Jim Peters (or in this case, "Dumb Canuck")
Coquitlam, BC
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Re: Question re 12-Panel boxcars

jim peters
 

Sorry for the late respose,

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6" IH, 12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3 different kit numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my understanding most of C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The question is are any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate ladders, grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.

Jim Peters
Coquitlam, BC


To: STMFC@...: Goatfisher2@...: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:35:44 -0800Subject: RE: [STMFC] Boxcar details and paint, series GN 20500-21449




Mark,Here's some info that may help you out:3) All in this series had the 5 panel Superior Door.5) Build date for series 20500 - 21499 is 1952.6) Yup - that's original paint. Consider also Microscale 87-185.For references:Mainline Modeler - 9/85, 11/2001, 12/2001RMJ - 10/1998 IIRC, the Mainline articles are your better bet - the RMJ article was mostlyabout a Duane Buck customization of an Intermountain 10' 12 panel car, butmight have had photos of the 10' 6" car.Best starting point - C&BT 10'6" 12-panel car* with 4/3/1 ends. Throw awaythe details and replace with appropriate details from Plano, Branchline,etc.* At some point in the past there was discussion of Branchline bringing outa 10' 6" 12-panel car. I'm not aware of this happening, but if it did, itmight well be a better choice.Ping me if you need more.Best regards,Steve HaasSammamish, WA






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Re: Athearn C&NW 65 ft mill gon

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 16, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Gene Green wrote:

PRR 440575, which I believe was a G26 gon, was set out at Helena,
Minnesota because of a hot box. The car was carrying a "steel triple
load" and was accompanied by ATSF 97473 and CGW flat car 3775. I
assume the Santa Fe car was a flat also.
ATSF 97473 was a class Ft-M flat car, 44' in length, with fishbelly
side sills built in 1924. I have numerous prototype photos of these
cars.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Harold K. Vollrath

MOFWCABOOSE@...
 

I was recently checking the Ilford website and they affirmed their
committment to the "silver halide process". I don't think that Kodak dropped their paper
because it was no longer profitable. I think it is more likely that it was no
longer profitable enough. Big companies tend to think that way, unfortunately
for the rest of us.

John C. La Rue, Jr. [Still using the silver halide process]
Bonita Springs, FL


**************
Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay
in shape.

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Re: Timonium Show Feb 2008

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Bruce - We won't be at Timonium. My health won't permit it. Orders remain steady and on my reduced work schedule we won't have time to make stock for the show. I don't anticipate attending any shows this year except the PRRT&HS annual meeting and the NMRA in Anaheim. - Al Westerfield

----- Original Message -----
From: bdg1210
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Timonium Show Feb 2008


Al,

Your response begs the question, will you be in Maryland on the
weekend of my wife's birthday (Feb 2-3)? The answer to this question
and a few other considerations helps me determine if I am willing to
put up with driving my wife and son from North Carolina to her
mother's house in Alexandria and buying extra nice birthday gifts so
that I can go to Timonium for a few hours of talking to a bunch of
prototype modelers and buying more kits for the shelf.

For modelers who have an interest in the B&O we have finally managed
to post the Sep/Oct issue of the B&O Modeler on the B&ORRHS website.
Thank Elden and Ben for their excellent contributions, and another
will hit the web soon.

Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Summerfield, NC

--- In STMFC@..., " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:
>
> Jerry - Depends on who you are. Howard Zane can always find room
for me if I want to be there. Same in the past for Springfield. We
attended Springfield once but the 2-day drive each way practically
guarantees we'll hit bad weather. The one time we attended we got
caught in a storm afterwards. The following day temperatures went
below zero and all the cans of soda in the car burst. Never again. -
Al Westerfield
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jerryglow2
> To: STMFC@...
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:45 AM
> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Timonium show with Martin Lofton. Was:
Sunshine delivery times
>
>
> Springfield has a waiting list for exhibitors and once in, you
would
> problably lose your spot if not attending every year. I don't
know if
> Timonium has a similiar situation/problem.
>
> Jerry Glow
>
> --- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler Larrabee"
> <schuyler.larrabee@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It surprises me that Martin doesn't consider alternating his
spring
> trips between Springfield and
> > Timonium. He would sell a ton of kits at Springfield to people
> who've never seen him.
> >
> > SGL
> >
>
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>
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