Rich Orr wrote:

I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger.

Given some of the other claims and performances of Dick's die cutter, Rich, you need to consider the source.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

Larry Jackman wrote:

Wrong. you can fill any cavities that you do not want . . . then you can re-cut the area
as you want it.

Larry's exactly right. This is how it works.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

see below


Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@comcast.net
Boca Raton FL 33434
I want to die in my sleep like
my grandfather did, not screaming
like the other people in his car.


On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:50 PM, SUVCWORR@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@hotmail.com writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6" IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3 different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies,

Wrong. you can fill any cavities that you do not want. If Brass molds you use soldier. If steel you can weld. Then you can re-cut the area as you want it. In My machine shop experience I have saves several dies and molds that way.
Some times you make a mistake and you cut the area out weld or soldier a new block in the hole and start cutting again. Easy to fix mistakes or change things.

there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the details
molded on.

Rich Orr



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Jon Miller wrote:

At some time in history there will be no more chemicals, paper, and other items needed for printing.

Undoubtedly true, but not soon. For example, it is still possible to buy everything you need to set metal type and hand-print it--though it's not remotely commercial. It's just become a specialty market for a very few hobbyists. I strongly suspect the same will be true for "silver halide" photography throughout the lifetime of anyone on this list. But as Jon says, of course at SOME TIME it will go.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

I have been progressing through a trio of Speedwitch Duryea
underframes for Red Caboose boxcars as B&O class M-26d.

Doing things in threes means either I learn from mistakes on the
first one, or make three consecutive mistakes for fleet uniformity.

My beedy eyes noticed that the resin flash between parts is
perfect sheet metal scrap. Thin. Stiff. Flat. Holds paint.
Does not cut flesh unless provoked.

The first 1000 rectangular shards were done by hand on a block
of wood with an exacto blade. Then I remembered I had a
Northwest Shortline "Chopper" and made a billion more.

I tried to keep the size down to two-three scale feet in any
dimension, processed scrap needs to fit into the furnace mouth.
I made some attempt at orthagonality, but not always.

I hope someone finds this idea inspiring.

I can get on the site but, I can't go to his other pages.
This had not been a problem except for the last couple of days.
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.

tbarney2004 <tbarney@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<Elden.J.Gatwood@...> wrote:

Anybody else having no luck pulling up Ted's website? Been going on

several

days...



Elden Gatwood

I just tried here Elden, about 6:$5pm Thursday...came right up, no
hesitation.

Tim Barney






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Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a picture you can post?

Jason

James Mischke <jmischke@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


I have been progressing through a trio of Speedwitch Duryea
underframes for Red Caboose boxcars as B&O class M-26d.

Doing things in threes means either I learn from mistakes on the
first one, or make three consecutive mistakes for fleet uniformity.

My beedy eyes noticed that the resin flash between parts is
perfect sheet metal scrap. Thin. Stiff. Flat. Holds paint.
Does not cut flesh unless provoked.

The first 1000 rectangular shards were done by hand on a block
of wood with an exacto blade. Then I remembered I had a
Northwest Shortline "Chopper" and made a billion more.

I tried to keep the size down to two-three scale feet in any
dimension, processed scrap needs to fit into the furnace mouth.
I made some attempt at orthagonality, but not always.

I hope someone finds this idea inspiring.



Yahoo! Groups Links






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Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Gatwood, Elden J SAD "
<Elden.J.Gatwood@...> wrote:

Anybody else having no luck pulling up Ted's website? Been going on

several

days...



Elden Gatwood

I just tried here Elden, about 6:$5pm Thursday...came right up, no
hesitation.

Tim Barney

not to worry, B&W film photography is still very popular!
Jeff Coleman

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, MOFWCABOOSE@... wrote:

I was recently checking the Ilford website and they affirmed their
committment to the "silver halide process". I don't think that

Kodak dropped their paper

because it was no longer profitable. I think it is more likely that

it was no

longer profitable enough. Big companies tend to think that way,

unfortunately

for the rest of us.

John C. La Rue, Jr. [Still using the silver halide process]
Bonita Springs, FL


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The September/October 2007 issue of The B&O Modeler ia available
online at
http://borhs.org/ModelerMag/index.html

Articles of interest include:
ProtoWest Models' B&O Class P-24/P-25 Flat Car by Elden Gatwood
Photo Feature: B&O Models from Prototype Modelers Meets by Ben Hom


Ben Hom

In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:28:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thompson@signaturepress.com writes:

Rich Orr wrote:

I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger.

Given some of the other claims and performances of Dick's die
cutter, Rich, you need to consider the source.



Tony, I can't argue with that. The die cutter is why we don't have the X29b
and X29d.

Rich



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Larry,

I can only state what the die cutter told Dick Schweiger. Not my area of
expertise. Maybe the die cutter just didn't want to do it. I don't know.

Rich Orr

In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:10:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mikado2206@hotmail.com writes:

In your post from a month ago, Mark you mentioned C&BT kits 10'-6" IH,
12-pnl boxcar. Looking at Walthers "Reference" book, I see 3 different kit
numbers listed (193-13500, -10500, -11300) . . . it was my understanding most of
C&BT's later efforts are more like "Blue-Box" wanna-be's. The question is are
any of the kit number above the older style kit with separate ladders,
grabs, etc? All I really want is the body shell/s.




NO.

C&BT on the advice of several well known modelers changed from separate
grabs, ladders etc. to molded on parts by recuting the dies. Once the ladders,
grabs etc, were cut into the dies, there was no going back without making all
new dies. All boxcars produced since that fateful time, have the details
molded on.

Rich Orr



**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.<

At some time in history there will be no more chemicals, paper, and other items needed for printing.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

$30.00, $29.00, $25.00 and $27.00. Dennis
--- lrkdbn <lrkdbn@aol.com> wrote:

Does anyone out there have a current price list for
Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I
would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@aol.com>

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Does anyone out there have a current price list for Sunshine Models?
(I know there's one in the files from March '07)I would like to get the
prices for kits 24.28, 29.15, 33.1,and 35.1

Thanks,
Larry King
please reply to <lrkdbn@aol.com>

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...>
wrote:

I don't have plans but do have 4 rolls of photos of the real thing,
including underneath.



Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon



_____
I'd be real interested in getting prints of these...Would you be

willing to sell me a set?

Larry King
please reply to:<lrkdbn@aol.com>

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Burgess" <jack@...> wrote:

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide

film, B/W

printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have

them make

prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the

traditional

photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if

you want a

print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the

scans. In

fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints

and ask

for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal

charge...

Easy enough for a professional lab but the man making up prints one
at a time is faced with buying expensive equipment which he has to
learn to use or having the prints made by a professional. Vollrath
has been maing up prints for 60 years.

Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Miller" <atsf@...> wrote:

The market for traditional photo supplies dried up very quickly.<

Does this mean that photos of our beloved freight cars will need

to be

scanned and printed that way. I know this is labor intensive however

it

looks to be the only long term solution.

It's faster and cheaper if you disregard the investment equipment.

Ed

I've long used a high-end professional lab for developing slide film, B/W
printing, etc. When I recently took some original negs in to have them make
prints, I discovered that they had gotten rid of all of the traditional
photography equipment...chemicals, trays, enlarger, etc. Now, if you want a
print from a negative, they scan the neg and make prints from the scans. In
fact, if you just want scans on a CD, it is cheaper to order prints and ask
for the scans to also be written to a CD for an extra nominal charge...

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com