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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

I'd like to know as well, so that I can correct the inacurracy on the
Tichy model.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "Scott Pitzer" <scottp459@...> wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@> wrote:
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof.
You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
=========================================================
That's what I intend to do, and fairly soon (a local shop cut the
price
because no one builds kits anymore.)
But how many weld seams should there be?

Scott Pitzer


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Bruce Smith
 

On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Scott Pitzer wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
=========================================================
That's what I intend to do, and fairly soon (a local shop cut the price
because no one builds kits anymore.)
But how many weld seams should there be?

Scott Pitzer
Scott,

Its hard to tell from photos. The panels appear to overlap at the seams by several inches, but the joints look relatively smooth. That's why I did not bother to model the joints at all <G>. It also appears that the running board supports were mounted on the seams. That makes sense, since the area is twice as thick, and more than likely overlies a carline. Unlike the radial roof, which has narrow end panels, all of the panels appear to be the same width. I count 13 running board supports, 2 at each end and 11 intermediate, so there are most likely 12 panels in the welded roof.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: Covered hoppers for sand

Tim O'Connor
 

an 'operating day' takes about 4 months x 2 op sessions
per month to complete...

North Shore Model Railroad Club. Come and see us if you're ever in the Boston area. Visitors with some knowledge of operations are welcome to participate in our monthly operating session. We run 50 to 60 trains in an operating day.


Re: Grit-blasting parts

brianehni <behni@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Raymond V. Young" <rayvirg@...> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of replacement nozzle holders with hoses for the grit-
blasting cabinet once sold by Northeastern (something or other)? It is
used to grit-blast freight car trucks prior to painting. (Required
freight car content).

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX
Try your local grit-blasting supply house; they should have a variety of sizes.

Brian Ehni


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Scott Pitzer
 

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
=========================================================
That's what I intend to do, and fairly soon (a local shop cut the price
because no one builds kits anymore.)
But how many weld seams should there be?

Scott Pitzer


Grit-blasting parts

Raymond Young
 

Hello,

Does anyone know of replacement nozzle holders with hoses for the grit-
blasting cabinet once sold by Northeastern (something or other)? It is
used to grit-blast freight car trucks prior to painting. (Required
freight car content).

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Bruce Smith
 

On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Tom Madden wrote:

Don Worthy wrote:

hey guys
could I ask "what should the roof look like for the Georgia car?"
Maybe something I could scratch build or modify.
Thank you for any help
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.
Here's a photo of a spare body casting done from Ted's pattern:
http://home.att.net/~pullmanproject/Georgia.jpg

Hope this helps.
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round (albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: GN 2500 aluminum box

Bruce Smith
 

On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:14 AM, benjaminfrank_hom wrote:
"I'd also be curious to know how one might model one of the
plywood-sided cars like #44502."
Ben Hom replied

Again, the Sunshine 79.x series kits. 79.1-79.4 model cars with
Dreadnaught ends; the rest of the kits model cars with Improved
Dreadnaught ends. See Jim Hayes' list for details.
In addition, Intermountain has announced the release of these cars, and was showing a test shot at Cocoa Beach. Their web site lists a Jun/July release date.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

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Re: Bronx freight houses

Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...>
 

Ah.. just answered my own question... plate 009
(http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlateUS-777.htm)
shows it as the Lehigh Valley's Bronx Terminal.

Can anyone point me in the direction of references for this please,
either print or online??

TIA,
Alan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Monk Alan
Sent: 29 January 2008 12:27



I know the lower pair, CNJ (plot #2316) and Harlem Terminal
(plot #2319)
and both well documented on and off-line... BUT! What's the one
slightly
further up the Harlem River, by the 149th St bridge (plot
#2349)??

I have plans (one day...) to build either the CNJ or HT yards,
their
operations fascinate me, stocked and destocked using carfloats
(portable
staging!) and just endless switching ^_^

Cheers,
Alan,
London, UK


-----Original Message-----
From: Westerfield
Sent: 29 January 2008 02:49



Some time ago someone posted a photo of a circular freight
house. A member of the NYC_transit_modelers_group posted this
map of the
Bronx in 1942 which shows quite a number of pocket yards, 3 of
which
appear to have circular freight houses:

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasPl
<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasP
l>
atesUS-679-NY.htm

<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasP
<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasP
latesUS-679-NY.htm>

- Al Westerfield


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Re: Bronx freight houses

Monk Alan <Alan.Monk@...>
 

I know the lower pair, CNJ (plot #2316) and Harlem Terminal (plot #2319)
and both well documented on and off-line... BUT! What's the one slightly
further up the Harlem River, by the 149th St bridge (plot #2349)??

I have plans (one day...) to build either the CNJ or HT yards, their
operations fascinate me, stocked and destocked using carfloats (portable
staging!) and just endless switching ^_^

Cheers,
Alan,
London, UK

-----Original Message-----
From: Westerfield
Sent: 29 January 2008 02:49



Some time ago someone posted a photo of a circular freight
house. A member of the NYC_transit_modelers_group posted this map of the
Bronx in 1942 which shows quite a number of pocket yards, 3 of which
appear to have circular freight houses:
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasPl
atesUS-679-NY.htm
<http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasP
latesUS-679-NY.htm>

- Al Westerfield


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Re: GN 2500 aluminum box

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Frank Valoczy asked:
"I picked up the CDS dry transfer set for the GN #2500 aluminum
boxcar...and now I'm wondering if anybody might suggest a way to
model this car."

GN 2500 is a bit of an oddball, even among other aluminum freight
cars of the time, which tended to be one-offs. This car is an
aluminum analog to GN's plywood boxcars being built at the same
time. The details:

- Built 11-1944
- Assigned to Express service; AB-1-B brakes, steam and signal lines
- 10 ft IH
- 8 panel sides, side sill resembles that of contemporary GN plywood
boxcars
- 4/5 Dreadnaught Ends
- Universal handbrake
- Apex brakestep
- 5/6/5 Camel door
- 8 rung ladders
- Murphy rectanguar panel roof
- Running board appears to be Morton (not indicated on my copy of
equipment diagram)
- Timken roller bearing trucks.

Prototype photo on page 10 of RP Cyc 8; the Fraternal Order of
Empire Builders (predecessor to the GN Historical Society) also
issued an information sheet years ago. The modeling recommendations
are OBE, but the sheet includes an equipment diagram and a broadside
GN publicity photograph (car reweighed 8-43).

Unfortunately, there is no "magic bullet" for modeling these cars -
it's easy enough to come up with a cabody with the same basic
dimensions, but the toughest part is coming up with the 8 panel
sides. The sides from the Tichy PMcK&Y/P&LE is one possibility, but
they may be too short in height. Another possible approach is the
one GN took - start with the Sunshine 79.1-79.4 series GN wartime
plywood kit and replacing the seam caps on the sides with rivet
lines.


"I'd also be curious to know how one might model one of the
plywood-sided cars like #44502."

Again, the Sunshine 79.x series kits. 79.1-79.4 model cars with
Dreadnaught ends; the rest of the kits model cars with Improved
Dreadnaught ends. See Jim Hayes' list for details.


Ben Hom


GN 2500 aluminum box

destron@...
 

I picked up the CDS dry transfer set for the GN #2500 aluminum boxcar...
and now I'm wondering if anybody might suggest a way to model this car.

I'd also be curious to know how one might model one of the plywood-sided
cars like #44502.

On a final note... I've become a Pennsy modeler... (*burns with shame* ;)
). Picked up the Bowser X31f kit today.

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC

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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Don Worthy wrote:

hey guys
could I ask "what should the roof look like for the Georgia car?"
Maybe something I could scratch build or modify.
Thank you for any help
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.
Here's a photo of a spare body casting done from Ted's pattern:
http://home.att.net/~pullmanproject/Georgia.jpg

Hope this helps.

Tom Madden


Re: Accurail SS boxcars with fishbelly frame

Carl J. Marsico <Carlmarsico@...>
 

The 8 panel, steel end CNW car should have a straight sill, as it's a USRA SS stand-in.

CJM

----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Grant <jonagrant@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:39:26 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Accurail SS boxcars with fishbelly frame

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, "benjaminfrank_ hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:
If you've got a list of road names that you're doing, we could help
out with the type of underframes.
Thanks for the offer, Ben.

I dug out all my Accurail SS boxcars this evening, a paultry 9 of
them (I'm sure there are some hidden away in another box)they are as
follows - all but the undec have fishbellies.

8-panel steel ends........ .
Georgia RR
Chicago and North Western
2 x Wabash

8-panel wood ends........ ...
Undec (was a yellow post-war MKT)

6-panel steel ends........ .#
C&EI

6-panel wood ends
CP (Dalman trucks)
Erie
Omaha Rd

I also knocked together some video of the above freight cars, so you
can get an idea of what I'm trying to work towards with the 1930s
theme (ignore the 1950 Bewick - D'oh)

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=F-BmCAl5vp0

Jon


Re: Bronx freight houses

al_brown03
 

Interesting map! Please see messages 65399 and 65381.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@..., " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

Some time ago someone posted a photo of a circular freight house. A
member of the NYC_transit_modelers_group posted this map of the Bronx
in 1942 which shows quite a number of pocket yards, 3 of which appear
to have circular freight houses:
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasPl
atesUS-679-NY.htm

- Al Westerfield

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: F&C web page (was F&C kits)

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

That¹s hardly necessary, and beside, it can get you banned on this list.
8^)

I¹d be satisfied if someone with a lot more web skills than I offered to fix
it for him.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni



From: tbarney2004 <tbarney@...>
Reply-To: <STMFC@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:21:37 -0000
To: <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: F&C web page (was F&C kits)





--- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , Brian Paul
Ehni <behni@...> wrote:

I tried years ago; it¹s still broke.

Knock yourself out.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni


Want me to drive over and slap him around for you? I'm about 45
minutes to an hour tops east of him...I can be there by midnight if I
leave now!

Tim Barney


Re: F&C web page (was F&C kits)

tbarney2004
 

--- In STMFC@..., Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...> wrote:

I tried years ago; it¹s still broke.

Knock yourself out.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni


Want me to drive over and slap him around for you? I'm about 45
minutes to an hour tops east of him...I can be there by midnight if I
leave now!

Tim Barney


Bronx freight houses

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Some time ago someone posted a photo of a circular freight house. A member of the NYC_transit_modelers_group posted this map of the Bronx in 1942 which shows quite a number of pocket yards, 3 of which appear to have circular freight houses: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/Browse_Atlases/ViewAtlasPlatesUS-679-NY.htm

- Al Westerfield


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Don Worthy
 

hey guys
could I ask "what should the roof look like for the Georgia car?" Maybe something I could scratch build or modify.
Thank you for any help
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.

Tom or Gail Madden <tgmadden@...> wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong,but the roof on the Tichy car is
incorrect.Speedwitch has an accurate version of this car.Armand Premo
That was a special run Ted did for attendees at his first private freight
car modeling seminar. He had a second batch done, but I think he sold all of
those. They're not shown on his web site, and I think there were only 60
altogether.

Tom Madden






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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Tom or Gail Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Correct me if I am wrong,but the roof on the Tichy car is
incorrect.Speedwitch has an accurate version of this car.Armand Premo
That was a special run Ted did for attendees at his first private freight car modeling seminar. He had a second batch done, but I think he sold all of those. They're not shown on his web site, and I think there were only 60 altogether.

Tom Madden

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