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Re: Bronx freight houses

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

BTW, here's Tim Warris' blog documenting his efforts on building the
CNJ terminal:
http://www.bronx-terminal.com/


Ben Hom


Re: Bronx freight houses

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Alan Monk asked:
"Can anyone point me in the direction of references for this please,
either print or online??"

Go to the Rail-Marine Information Group for starters:
http://www.trainweb.org/rmig/


Ben Hom


Re: Bronx freight houses

Vincent Lee
 

Alan Monk wrote:

"Ah.. just answered my own question... plate 009
(http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlateUS-777.htm)
shows it as the Lehigh Valley's Bronx Terminal.

Can anyone point me in the direction of references for this please,
either print or online??"

There was a very thorough article on this yard by David Pearce & Ralph Heiss in the Rail Marine group's magazine " Transfer", Number 42.

The yard just north of this LV yard is the Erie RR's Harlem Station.

Vince Lee


Modeling the Erie Wyoming Division in Pennsylvania and
the Erie 28th Street Terminal in New York City
Please visit my website for eastern and western railfanning photos:
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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Frank Greene
 

It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
Bruce
There are 4 or 5 of the GA Road rebuilds sitting on blocks at Midsouth Supply in Mableton, GA (GA 19555, homemade roof, is identifiable from the street). I haven't examined them up close, but at least one appears to have the radial Hutchins roof while the others I could see from the street have flat panel, welded seam roofs.

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: Bronx freight houses

George R. Stilwell, Jr. <GRSJr@...>
 

There was a thread on the Lehigh Valley Forum detailing the Bronx terminal for modeling. Unfortunately,I can't seem to find it.

Ray Stilwell


Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Carl J. Marsico <Carlmarsico@...>
 

It's usually better to err on the side of caution when dealing with Intermountain, as they have decorated and/or numbered what they consider a "close enough" series while completely bypassing a prototype that's a dead ringer for the model at issue on more than one occasion.

Hopefully someone could verify this info and give IMRC a heads-up so the production model comes out OK, as it's my understanding that they are receptive to constructive criticism.

CJM

----- Original Message ----
From: Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:53:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

RE: Intermountain
# 46051 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Original
# 46052 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Mineral Red

It was my understanding that the GN plywood side box cars were in the
10500-10899 series. Intermountain' s kit (or is it RTR) #46051 is
numbered GN 10009 while #46052 is GN 10093.

Are those Intermountain numbers correct? Is my first sentence in
error?

In Message #69468 Frank Valoczy said, "I'd also be curious to know
how one might model one of the plywood-sided cars like #44502."

Is there still another number series for GN plywood side box cars?

Intermountain shows two different paint schemes. Original means that
the orange sides were applied when the car was built, right? When
was the Mineral Red first applied?

Is the door shown in the drawings correct? Can we expect the car to
come with the doors in the drawing?

Thanks in advnce for any answers.
Gene Green


Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Oops! I can already answer part of my own question. Apparently GN
series 44025-44999 were also box cars with plywood sides. May I assume
these were also built by the GN?
Gene Green


GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

RE: Intermountain
# 46051 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Original
# 46052 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Mineral Red

It was my understanding that the GN plywood side box cars were in the
10500-10899 series. Intermountain's kit (or is it RTR) #46051 is
numbered GN 10009 while #46052 is GN 10093.

Are those Intermountain numbers correct? Is my first sentence in
error?

In Message #69468 Frank Valoczy said, "I'd also be curious to know
how one might model one of the plywood-sided cars like #44502."

Is there still another number series for GN plywood side box cars?

Intermountain shows two different paint schemes. Original means that
the orange sides were applied when the car was built, right? When
was the Mineral Red first applied?

Is the door shown in the drawings correct? Can we expect the car to
come with the doors in the drawing?

Thanks in advnce for any answers.
Gene Green


Re: Bronx freight houses

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

A photo of a box cab on 11th Avenue in Manhattan hauling LCL
containers can be seen at:
http://161.185.1.156/html/records/html/gallery/html/details.shtml?
cat=street&imgname=bpm_1024b.jpg - Al Westerfield
=====

That is one of the NYC three-power units hauling a freight train before
the west side freight line was built. I see three gons with what look
like bulk containers at the head of the trains, but I don't think those
were LCL shipments.

The print is mislabeled. If that view is southeast, then it's a
westbound trains about to go for a swim. Interesting to find that on a
north-south street.


Re: Bronx freight houses

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

A photo of a box cab on 11th Avenue in Manhattan hauling LCL containers can be seen at: http://161.185.1.156/html/records/html/gallery/html/details.shtml?cat=street&imgname=bpm_1024b.jpg - Al Westerfield


Jack Delano color photos

ed_mines
 

Has anyone seen a Delano color photo of a string of SFRD reefers? The
railroads at war book has many B&W photos taken on the ATSF.

I think the latest Delano color photos in Shorpy show ATSF diesels in
color.

Ed


Re: Grit-blasting parts

Chris Sawicki
 

Virgil- you might search here, they carry one similar to the North Coast model

http://www.cycloneblasters.com/

http://www.cycloneblasters.com/accessories.htm

no connection

Chris Sawicki

"Raymond V. Young" <rayvirg@...> wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone know of replacement nozzle holders with hoses for the grit-
blasting cabinet once sold by Northeastern (something or other)? It is
used to grit-blast freight car trucks prior to painting. (Required
freight car content).

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Don Worthy
 

I want to thank Tom and Bruce for this help. I do need to ask one more question, although.
It looks to be easier to build the cars that Bruce speaks of but, what were the car numbers that used this "smooth" roof?....for lack of the true name.
Thanks again to both of you
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.
Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Scott Pitzer wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
=========================================================
That's what I intend to do, and fairly soon (a local shop cut the
price
because no one builds kits anymore.)
But how many weld seams should there be?

Scott Pitzer
Scott,

Its hard to tell from photos. The panels appear to overlap at the
seams by several inches, but the joints look relatively smooth.
That's why I did not bother to model the joints at all <G>. It also
appears that the running board supports were mounted on the seams.
That makes sense, since the area is twice as thick, and more than
likely overlies a carline. Unlike the radial roof, which has narrow
end panels, all of the panels appear to be the same width. I count
13 running board supports, 2 at each end and 11 intermediate, so
there are most likely 12 panels in the welded roof.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

rdietrichson
 

Scott,
If you'll contact me off line at Rdietrichson@...
I have some .007 styrene monofilament that would probably serve well as a welded joint in HO.
Rick Dietirchson
Wimington, NC


Re: F&C Kits: accuracy

Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

I didn't mention the T&NO version since F&C offers that kit.
We have Steve Funaro's son to thank for all of the F&C kits
for SP/T&NO prototypes. He's an SP steam era fan who's kept
bugging his dad for more SP stuff. At the Big E show he had
a Pacific Electric PCC car model (not the same as Bowser's
forthcoming plastic PCC car). Steve told me these were all
sold 1950-1951 and shipped all over, so they would be good
flat car loads for some routes in that time period.

Tim O'

At 1/29/2008 11:50 AM Tuesday, you wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:
ACL 41'6" War Emergency composite gondolas, series 93600-93899, later
rebuilt with steel sides. This kit also is good for SP's large fleet
of WE gondolas likewise rebuilt with steel sides
Comments: these were all lettered T&NO (or TNO after 1958)
until well after 1961, so only "SP" in that sense. Quite a few were
indeed rebuilt with steel sides (almost half the fleet), but that
didn't start until the late 1950s. The F&C wood-side version is fine
for the T&NO cars; many went to scrap in the '60s in that form.

Tony Thompson


Re: F&C Kits: accuracy

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
ACL 41'6" War Emergency composite gondolas, series 93600-93899, later rebuilt with steel sides. This kit also is good for SP's large fleet of WE gondolas likewise rebuilt with steel sides
Comments: these were all lettered T&NO (or TNO after 1958) until well after 1961, so only "SP" in that sense. Quite a few were indeed rebuilt with steel sides (almost half the fleet), but that didn't start until the late 1950s. The F&C wood-side version is fine for the T&NO cars; many went to scrap in the '60s in that form.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Bronx freight houses

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
 

That brings back interesting memories. I recall in the 50'sa nd 60's looking down on the Harlem Transfer from an NYC commuter train and seeing that box cab diesel.

Both the CNJ and DL&W circular freight houses were homes for some of the earliest diesels, the Ingersoll Rand box cabs.


Malcolm Laughlin, Editor 617-489-4383
New England Rail Shipper Directories
19 Holden Road, Belmont, MA 02478


Re: Grit-blasting parts

jerryglow2
 

Look in the yellow pages for a place that sells abrasives. That's how
I found a dealer when I was on the west coast. Guess I'll have to do
a search all over when I need replacements again now that I'm in
Florida and not really near any big city (Tampa and Orlando both
about an hour away).

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Raymond V. Young" <rayvirg@...> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of replacement nozzle holders with hoses for the
grit-
blasting cabinet once sold by Northeastern (something or other)?
It is
used to grit-blast freight car trucks prior to painting. (Required
freight car content).

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX


Re: F&C Kits: accuracy

Tim O'Connor
 

ACL 41'6" War Emergency composite gondolas, series 93600-93899,
later rebuilt with steel sides. This kit also is good for SP's
large fleet of WE gondolas likewise rebuilt with steel sides

I do not know which the ACL car refers to; a 52' WE gon or their steel
rebuild of a USRA car??. I have both, and both are old-style kits that you
build from individual pieces with no detail on the backs. You need to add
interior detail on the gons.
Elden Gatwood


Re: GN 2500 aluminum box

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Carl Marsico wrote:
"Didn't Sunshine do the GN #2500? "

No. Sunshine did do various aluminum boxcars in the 63.x series, but
not GN 2500. See Jim Hayes' list in the files ection for details.


Ben Hom

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