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GN plywood side box car

gastro42000 <martincooper@...>
 

Group: The GN had 4 seies of plywood sided box cars 44400-44999
and44025-44399 these originally had plywood and steel doors and 4/5
ends. these were built in 1944 by GN. Seies 10000-10499 built 1945 by
GN had3/4 ends and all steel doors. 10500-10890 were the same, but
built 1947. Marty


Jack Delano color photos

Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
 

Speaking of which, its not a great shot, but how about <http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2178416353/>.

Rob Kirkham

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Jack Delano color photos


Ed,



I can't answer your question directly, but it may interest
you to know that many of Delano's RR photos are now available at
www.flickr.com <http://www.flickr.com/> . Their site is easier for me
to use than the Library of Congress website.



Regards,



-Jeff





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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ed_mines
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:37 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Jack Delano color photos



Has anyone seen a Delano color photo of a string of SFRD reefers? The
railroads at war book has many B&W photos taken on the ATSF.

I think the latest Delano color photos in Shorpy show ATSF diesels in
color.

Ed







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Sunshine list updated

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

The recent references to my Sunshine all-time list has made me feel guilty.
I've updated the all-time lists in the Files area, something I should have
done some time ago. It includes everything I'm aware of thru Naperville
2007.

If you spot an error, omission, or are that something has been discontinued
that I haven't flagged as such, please let me know.



Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon


Re: F&C web page (was F&C kits)

tbarney2004
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...> wrote:

That¹s hardly necessary, and beside, it can get you banned on this list.
8^)

I¹d be satisfied if someone with a lot more web skills than I
offered to fix
it for him.
--
Thanks!

Brian Ehni
Nah, I was just kidding, in reality, I'd never do such a thing. As
for web skills, count me out too...that one web page I had to do in
college was enough for me...too tedious and boring. My modelling
skills are probably just barely above the level of my web page skills
at this point. If I were to head his way, it would be to try to buy
some kits, especially with the PRR TM8 being an upcoming project on
another group (at least this time I mentioned a steam era FC).

Tim Barney


Re: Jack Delano color photos

Aley, Jeff A
 

Ed,



I can't answer your question directly, but it may interest
you to know that many of Delano's RR photos are now available at
www.flickr.com <http://www.flickr.com/> . Their site is easier for me
to use than the Library of Congress website.



Regards,



-Jeff





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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ed_mines
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:37 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Jack Delano color photos



Has anyone seen a Delano color photo of a string of SFRD reefers? The
railroads at war book has many B&W photos taken on the ATSF.

I think the latest Delano color photos in Shorpy show ATSF diesels in
color.

Ed


Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Thomas Baker
 

Gene,

These cars were built at the St. Cloud Shops of the GN.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Gene Green
Sent: Tue 1/29/2008 1:55 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Oops! I can already answer part of my own question. Apparently GN
series 44025-44999 were also box cars with plywood sides. May I assume
these were also built by the GN?
Gene Green




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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Bruce Smith
 

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Don Worthy wrote:

I want to thank Tom and Bruce for this help. I do need to ask one more question, although.
It looks to be easier to build the cars that Bruce speaks of but, what were the car numbers that used this "smooth" roof?....for lack of the true name.
Thanks again to both of you
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.
From photos, with reweigh dates:

#19580 - silver (1948)
#19695 - red (1951)
#19712 - red (1954)
#19715 - silver (1951?)

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

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Re: Bronx freight houses

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

BTW, here's Tim Warris' blog documenting his efforts on building the
CNJ terminal:
http://www.bronx-terminal.com/


Ben Hom


Re: Bronx freight houses

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Alan Monk asked:
"Can anyone point me in the direction of references for this please,
either print or online??"

Go to the Rail-Marine Information Group for starters:
http://www.trainweb.org/rmig/


Ben Hom


Re: Bronx freight houses

Vincent Lee
 

Alan Monk wrote:

"Ah.. just answered my own question... plate 009
(http://www.historicmapworks.com/Sections/Maps/viewPlateUS-777.htm)
shows it as the Lehigh Valley's Bronx Terminal.

Can anyone point me in the direction of references for this please,
either print or online??"

There was a very thorough article on this yard by David Pearce & Ralph Heiss in the Rail Marine group's magazine " Transfer", Number 42.

The yard just north of this LV yard is the Erie RR's Harlem Station.

Vince Lee


Modeling the Erie Wyoming Division in Pennsylvania and
the Erie 28th Street Terminal in New York City
Please visit my website for eastern and western railfanning photos:
http://www.eastwestrails.com/





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Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Frank Greene
 

It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
Bruce
There are 4 or 5 of the GA Road rebuilds sitting on blocks at Midsouth Supply in Mableton, GA (GA 19555, homemade roof, is identifiable from the street). I haven't examined them up close, but at least one appears to have the radial Hutchins roof while the others I could see from the street have flat panel, welded seam roofs.

Frank Greene
Memphis, TN


Re: Bronx freight houses

George R. Stilwell, Jr. <GRSJr@...>
 

There was a thread on the Lehigh Valley Forum detailing the Bronx terminal for modeling. Unfortunately,I can't seem to find it.

Ray Stilwell


Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Carl J. Marsico <Carlmarsico@...>
 

It's usually better to err on the side of caution when dealing with Intermountain, as they have decorated and/or numbered what they consider a "close enough" series while completely bypassing a prototype that's a dead ringer for the model at issue on more than one occasion.

Hopefully someone could verify this info and give IMRC a heads-up so the production model comes out OK, as it's my understanding that they are receptive to constructive criticism.

CJM

----- Original Message ----
From: Gene Green <bierglaeser@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:53:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

RE: Intermountain
# 46051 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Original
# 46052 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Mineral Red

It was my understanding that the GN plywood side box cars were in the
10500-10899 series. Intermountain' s kit (or is it RTR) #46051 is
numbered GN 10009 while #46052 is GN 10093.

Are those Intermountain numbers correct? Is my first sentence in
error?

In Message #69468 Frank Valoczy said, "I'd also be curious to know
how one might model one of the plywood-sided cars like #44502."

Is there still another number series for GN plywood side box cars?

Intermountain shows two different paint schemes. Original means that
the orange sides were applied when the car was built, right? When
was the Mineral Red first applied?

Is the door shown in the drawings correct? Can we expect the car to
come with the doors in the drawing?

Thanks in advnce for any answers.
Gene Green


Re: GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Oops! I can already answer part of my own question. Apparently GN
series 44025-44999 were also box cars with plywood sides. May I assume
these were also built by the GN?
Gene Green


GN plywood side box cars (was GN 2500 aluminum box)

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

RE: Intermountain
# 46051 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Original
# 46052 6 Plywood Panel Boxcar Great Northern - Mineral Red

It was my understanding that the GN plywood side box cars were in the
10500-10899 series. Intermountain's kit (or is it RTR) #46051 is
numbered GN 10009 while #46052 is GN 10093.

Are those Intermountain numbers correct? Is my first sentence in
error?

In Message #69468 Frank Valoczy said, "I'd also be curious to know
how one might model one of the plywood-sided cars like #44502."

Is there still another number series for GN plywood side box cars?

Intermountain shows two different paint schemes. Original means that
the orange sides were applied when the car was built, right? When
was the Mineral Red first applied?

Is the door shown in the drawings correct? Can we expect the car to
come with the doors in the drawing?

Thanks in advnce for any answers.
Gene Green


Re: Bronx freight houses

Malcolm Laughlin <mlaughlinnyc@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, " Westerfield" <westerfield@...> wrote:

A photo of a box cab on 11th Avenue in Manhattan hauling LCL
containers can be seen at:
http://161.185.1.156/html/records/html/gallery/html/details.shtml?
cat=street&imgname=bpm_1024b.jpg - Al Westerfield
=====

That is one of the NYC three-power units hauling a freight train before
the west side freight line was built. I see three gons with what look
like bulk containers at the head of the trains, but I don't think those
were LCL shipments.

The print is mislabeled. If that view is southeast, then it's a
westbound trains about to go for a swim. Interesting to find that on a
north-south street.


Re: Bronx freight houses

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

A photo of a box cab on 11th Avenue in Manhattan hauling LCL containers can be seen at: http://161.185.1.156/html/records/html/gallery/html/details.shtml?cat=street&imgname=bpm_1024b.jpg - Al Westerfield


Jack Delano color photos

ed_mines
 

Has anyone seen a Delano color photo of a string of SFRD reefers? The
railroads at war book has many B&W photos taken on the ATSF.

I think the latest Delano color photos in Shorpy show ATSF diesels in
color.

Ed


Re: Grit-blasting parts

Chris Sawicki
 

Virgil- you might search here, they carry one similar to the North Coast model

http://www.cycloneblasters.com/

http://www.cycloneblasters.com/accessories.htm

no connection

Chris Sawicki

"Raymond V. Young" <rayvirg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone know of replacement nozzle holders with hoses for the grit-
blasting cabinet once sold by Northeastern (something or other)? It is
used to grit-blast freight car trucks prior to painting. (Required
freight car content).

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX


Re: Tichy Georgia SS rebuild

Don Worthy
 

I want to thank Tom and Bruce for this help. I do need to ask one more question, although.
It looks to be easier to build the cars that Bruce speaks of but, what were the car numbers that used this "smooth" roof?....for lack of the true name.
Thanks again to both of you
Don Worthy
Ivey, Ga.
Bruce Smith <smithbf@auburn.edu> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Scott Pitzer wrote:

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
It might be easier to model the home made welded roof ;^) To do
that, I just shaved off all of the seam caps on the Tichy roof. You
can lightly scribe or even use 0.010" styrene rod or half round
(albeit oversized) to model the weld beads if you like.
=========================================================
That's what I intend to do, and fairly soon (a local shop cut the
price
because no one builds kits anymore.)
But how many weld seams should there be?

Scott Pitzer
Scott,

Its hard to tell from photos. The panels appear to overlap at the
seams by several inches, but the joints look relatively smooth.
That's why I did not bother to model the joints at all <G>. It also
appears that the running board supports were mounted on the seams.
That makes sense, since the area is twice as thick, and more than
likely overlies a carline. Unlike the radial roof, which has narrow
end panels, all of the panels appear to be the same width. I count
13 running board supports, 2 at each end and 11 intermediate, so
there are most likely 12 panels in the welded roof.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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/ &#92;
__<+--+>________________&#92;__/___ ________________________________
|- ______/ O O &#92;_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ |
| / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 &#92; | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||
|/_____________________________&#92;|_|________________________________|
| O--O &#92;0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0






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