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Mount Clare Shops B&O M-15k Wagontop Boxcar

Charlie and Linda Duckworth <iiv000@...>
 

Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the HO B&O M-15k wagontop boxcar
offered in MR? Shows one piece body - are the sides straight. Is it
worth
the $32.50 asking price?

Thanks
Charlie Duckworth


Re: Convincing Model Freight Train Length

Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>
 

On Mar 29, 11:43am, Richard Hendrickson wrote:
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Convincing Model Freight Train Length
Ian Clasper asks:

All this discussion about freight car population brings up another
question
to me. How many cars make up a convincing model freight train length ?
IMO, twenty cars behind a main line steam loco won't cut it but forty or
so
may give the impression of a suitably long consist. Of course, YMMV.
The key answer here is Richard's "YMMV". Anything less than prototypical
length is a compromise. Each person has to rationalize his or her own
compromises and decide what is "acceptable".

The same concept applies to minimum radius -- at what point to 50' box
cars look "ridiculous"? Some would say at 24"; others say nothing less
than 48" will do.

The best you can do is ask for a vote. My vote is for about 12 - 15 feet
of length for a mainline freight (in HO scale).

Don't forget that people in different scales will likely have different
answers!


Regards,

-Jeff

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Re: Sending money to Canada

Shawn Beckert
 

Ted Culotta wrote:

I'll probably sound like your typical American
on vacation in Paris with a comment like this
and no offense to our foreign members is intended,
but the dollar is the standard currency in capital
markets so there is a lot more incentive for
foreign financial institutions to honor it than
vice versa.
I've been buying books about, and photographs of merchant
ships (my *other* hobby) from outfits in the U.K. and
Australia for several years now. None of them will take
American checks, but all of them accept credit cards. A
very interesting experience to work out the conversion of
currencies. It's terribly off-topic, but I wish someone
would educate me as to why the exchange rate between the
U.S. and Britain is so awful. Last I checked, one pound
Sterling was worth $1.42. Ouch!

Shawn Beckert


Re: Sending money to Canada

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

No, it is as easy as it sounds. Use your Visa card. The banks will figure it
out and the transaction fee will be the lowest you will find. BTW, why are we
talking about this anyway?

Dave Nelson

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From: Jon Miller [mailto:atsf@...]
It's not as easy as it sounds!


Re: GATX Lettering

Jeff English
 

Any chance of getting these in any scales other than HO?
Obviously, I'm looking for S-scale, but I'm not the only one who
wants other-than-HO. Since these are pure black, wouldn't they
lend themsleves to decent resolution on an Alps printer?

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Re: 1937 box cars questions

Jeff English
 

ljack70117@... wrote:

The trucks on the S Scale America Tank car are the same design.
Thank you
Larry Jackman
I own a genuine SSA tank car, and the trucks that came with it
sure as hell don't have anything remotely resembling spring planks.
Likewise, after Des Plaines Hobbies bought the tooling for this
tank car, and I own one of these as well, it appears that some
revision was done on the trucks but still no spring planks.

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Re: Sending money to Canada

Norm Dresner <ndrez@...>
 

I've gotten an International Money Order from the local PO for sending
funds to CA. It cost IIRC about $3.50

Norm

----- Original Message -----
From: almabranch <harper-brown@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 6:48 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Sending money to Canada


Larry,
You can go into a bank and get an international money order, or your
bank may have an account in a foreign bank so they can write checks
in foreign funds. The only problem is that this is that the bank
charges a fee that I view as expensive. Therefore, if you are
sending money to Canada it will save money to find out what the
American dollar equivalent of Canadian funds is and send that
amount.
Jared Harper



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Re: Sending money to Canada

Ted Culotta <ted_culotta@...>
 

--- Jon Miller <atsf@...> wrote:
I checked once with local banks for moneys
conversions. Most did not do
it. They told me to go to San Francisco only 50 or
so miles. Also you will
get a surprise at the post office with MO's as
exchange cost differs
dependant on the country. Also checked with western
union and think that
was around 40 bucks or so. A little stiff for a 5
dollar order. Credit
Unions which is where I so all my business don't do
conversions. Also not
all banks did either.
It's not as easy as it sounds!
I'll probably sound like your typical American on
vacation in Paris with a comment like this and no
offense to our foreign members is intended, but the
dollar is the standard currency in capital markets so
there is a lot more incentive for foreign financial
institutions to honor it than vice versa.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

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Re: Sending money to Canada

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

I checked once with local banks for moneys conversions. Most did not do
it. They told me to go to San Francisco only 50 or so miles. Also you will
get a surprise at the post office with MO's as exchange cost differs
dependant on the country. Also checked with western union and think that
was around 40 bucks or so. A little stiff for a 5 dollar order. Credit
Unions which is where I so all my business don't do conversions. Also not
all banks did either.
It's not as easy as it sounds!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Sending money to Canada

almabranch <harper-brown@...>
 

Larry,
You can go into a bank and get an international money order, or your
bank may have an account in a foreign bank so they can write checks
in foreign funds. The only problem is that this is that the bank
charges a fee that I view as expensive. Therefore, if you are
sending money to Canada it will save money to find out what the
American dollar equivalent of Canadian funds is and send that
amount.
Jared Harper


Spring Planks

Justin Kahn <jacekahn@...>
 

Guys
I normally don't point out the HO scale assumptions (closely followed by N) of the list, because I get enough useful material in spite of it, but Roger is only partly right: ALL Intermountain trucks included with their O scale kits include a spring plank option, the old Katsumi trucks (Max Grey and USHobbies) used them routinely, as did the Auel trucks going back to before WWII (and still available). I am probably forgetting several more, too, as I am doing this off the top of my head.
Jace Kahn

.... Spring planks are never
actually modeled AFAIK, except for the visible end under the
spring package.
They were supplied with the trucks included in Intermountain's O Scale
reefer, lo these many years a ago. Not easy to install.
Roger Miener

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Re: Sending money to Canada

ljack70117@...
 

You can go to a bank that deals in foreign money and buy a money order
in what every money you want.
Thank you
Larry Jackman

almabranch wrote:


Dear List:
When I sent a check to purchase something in Canada I first went to
Google and searched exchange rates. If the company gives you the
cost in Canadian dollars it is easy to convert that to American
dollars so you can write the check for that amount. It worked great
for me.

Jared Harper


Re: GATX Lettering

Richard Hendrickson
 

...since I don't have any photos yet (just started THAT aspect of this
hobby...) could you steer me in the right direction for which number
series/built dates/capacities are correct for the RC GATC tank cars?
The GATC roster was such a rat's nest of renumberings and re-renumberings
that it's impossible to cite number series or groups, and you have to work
from photos. Some valid numbers for Type 30 8K gal. ICC-103s:

29654
60379 Built 3-30
22438 Built 8-30 (in the mid-'50s this car was stenciled for Consolidated
Rendering Co.)

I also have photos of several GATX 8K ICC-203s assigned to corn syrup
service and stenciled for Clinton or Penick & Ford. I'm going to try to
pursuade Allen to do a decal set for these as well.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener

Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>
 

On Apr 1, 2:30pm, Jack Wyatt wrote:
Subject: Re: [STMFC] STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener
But with standard
NMRA trackwork, the 0.110 wheels drop, too. The 0.088 wheels just drop
slightly further and a little bit longer.
Exactly. Mike was concerned with wheels "dropping" into the gap. Fact
is, any wheel has to drop when there's a gap. The real question is "how
far does it drop" versus "how much drop is acceptable?"


As it turns out, these questions are moot (from Mike's perspective), as I
just phoned him and he has "seen the Light" and is feverishly converting
all of his brass steamers to Proto:87. I understand he already has 5
axles of his 4-12-2 completed.

Regards,

-Jeff

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Sending money to Canada

almabranch <harper-brown@...>
 

Dear List:
When I sent a check to purchase something in Canada I first went to
Google and searched exchange rates. If the company gives you the
cost in Canadian dollars it is easy to convert that to American
dollars so you can write the check for that amount. It worked great
for me.

Jared Harper


Re: Your price

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

I like your style, Bill.

(But no, I don't have any "Emmas" to offer.)

So long,

Andy


Re: STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener

C J Wyatt
 

<<Well...that could be...and it might not be. It simply depends on how far
the
wheel has to roll off of a frog's support looking for support from the wing
rail. If it finds it before it drops...great. If it doesn't...kerplop. The
wider the wheel tread the quicker it will find support....

Mike Brock >>

OK, I see what you are talking about - the wheel riding up on the wing rail
from the other route. The wider tread will do it sooner and the shallower
the angle of the frog, the bigger the gap to contend with. But with standard
NMRA trackwork, the 0.110 wheels drop, too. The 0.088 wheels just drop
slightly further and a little bit longer. I don't think that would increase
the derailment potential very much, but probably adds to the clickity-clack
factor.

Jack Wyatt


Re: STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener

C J Wyatt
 

<<Well...that could be...and it might not be. It simply depends on how far
the
wheel has to roll off of a frog's support looking for support from the wing
rail....

Mike Brock>>

Mike,

This is where I'm not following you. I don't think wing rails support
anything. Their function is to guide the wheel to the correct side of the
point of the frog.

Jack


Re: STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener

C J Wyatt
 

Mike,

In the way I understand the NMRA HO track standards, the distance between
the wing rail and rail is 0.050 inches, so a 0.088 wheel will not drop until
it gets to the gap in the frog. But a 0.110 wheel will drop at least 0.003",
or maybe more (minimum depth of flangeway is 0.028" - flange on 0.110 wheel
is 0.025"). The 0.088 inch wheel only drops 0.002" futher (0.023 flange
depth). I don't see what the big deal is about 0.002". Or is the problem
that some commercial turnouts have non-standard dimensions?

Jack Wyatt


Re: STMFC RP-25 award to Roger Miener

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Tim O'Connor writes:

I have run .088 wheels on a large club layout with hand-laid
track up to 20 years old, with no problems.
Keep in mind that the only issue has to do with gaps at frogs. There is
nothing whatever wrong with in gauge code anything running on in gauge track
itself. And, ME or handlaid [ in gauge ] should not pose any problems.

However, I don't
think there are any #10 turnouts. But there are some tricky
curved turnouts that are worse!
Well...that could be...and it might not be. It simply depends on how far the
wheel has to roll off of a frog's support looking for support from the wing
rail. If it finds it before it drops...great. If it doesn't...kerplop. The
wider the wheel tread the quicker it will find support. Again...that doesn't
mean a code 88 or any other code wheel won't operate well through turnouts.
It does mean that a code XX wheel needs to operate on turnouts designed for
the wheel's code. NMRA track standard S-3 provides that only for code 110
wheels. The problem only becomes severe on larger numbered frogs...showing
up on number 8s and becoming noticably a problem on number 10s.

Mike Brock

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